True Detective Season 1 (NO SPOILERS)

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Question about the preview for ep 7....

What the fukk is Rust gonna show Marty on the comp/TV? :lupe:

Guessing it might be proof of Marty's oldest daughter being involved in the cult

Its the most logical idea, but you know these previews always turn out to be some minor, insignificant note in the story.
Just my opinion but I don't think his reaction was strong enough for it to be his daughter. I would have expected him to be 'enranged' if he was watching a video of his daughter getting raped. He looked more disgusted more than anything so I think it might be some random victims getting the bizness on that tape.
 

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Myopic post; the best and most storied characters in any medium, whether it's Achilles, King Lear, Captain Ahab, Moses, John McClane, Captain Hook, ANYONE, have definitive qualities that make them, "them." The story arch requires it so. Why make Rust, this overly misanthropic dude with an acute aversion to any stimuli (this is a man that checks his pulse regularly to ensure that he isn't) for nearly the entirety of the show, get caught up on some R.Kelly Downlow shyt? Rust has done plenty of unconventional things, but he had a certain ethos. He did those things that that were wrong for a greater good in some utilitarian vein, so he was still someone of esteemed repute. What happened tonight was akin to Moses coming down from Mount Sinai with the 10 commandments, and seeing his people worship Baal, and joining them. Lol. I say this as an agnostic. And somehow, I'm crazy for thinking that's poor writing? :dahell:

Talk literary devices on the coli, brehs.

Besides that, not only did Rust sleep with dude's wife, he was indignant about it. :dahell:. Most men would've shot dude in "real" life.

Even the most strong-willed person can be infallible. :ehh:
 

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Speculation about the preview

I'm betting that what Marty sees on the computer has something to do with his daughters. Some molestation of some sort. The captain obvious thing to say would be it's the older daughter who drew those pictures but the girl from the walking dead gotta have problems too lol

Should've read what other ppl thought first lol
 

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What Marty did was wack but you don't get your man back like that.:bryan:

She didn't want him back, when Rust was givin her the :camby:she said something like "he is gonna have to leave he wont be able to live with this", she wanted to ether his soul.
 

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just watched this week's episode, i'm throw out my thoughts, then go back through the thread to catch up:

- this show is fukking great...hell of a episode...like how it concluded the timeline from 02 and connected it to 2012....the next episode should be all about rust and what he's uncovered the last 10 years...

- and yea, it's obvious the thought they were working together has been shot to shyt lol...

- that was a good fight, but it seems rust held back, a lot...cause he felt wrong for fukking Maggie, so he let marty get his shyt off....think even marty realized that when they were in the office...especially when rust said 'good hook marty'...which is another sign that rust actually cares more than he tries to let on...

- I love how rust the character has been written....he puts up this façade like he doesn't give a damn about anything, but that's all it is: a façade...him losing his kid, then getting divorced caused him to not wanna let anyone get close to him so he doesn't go through that pain again...but you can tell he actually cares about people a lot....think that's one reason why he's so good at getting people to talk....he's opening up to them, and they can sense that, which causes them to open up about the shyt they've done....hell of a character....

- damn marty old lady looked damn good...and she was hiding that ass I see....the way it just dropped and jiggled a lil when rush grabbed and let it go, just lovely...also, that's one of the reasons I dig those spring type dresses: easy access...

- speaking of Maggie, she hit marty with that soul hurting shyt, but I understand...she gave that cat another chance after the first chick...what marty do with it? fukk up again...not only that, his dumbass had the audacity to display all the 'yea, i'm fukking around on you' signs....from washing only the outfit he had on to keeping the pics in his phone for everyone to see....and I understand why she fukked rust: she knew that would hurt him the most and make him leave...lol at the fact she thanked rust for fukking her for the sole purpose to end her marriage...you could tell though after that quickie, her and rust had that 'what the fukk did we just do' look on they face...they both knew that shyt was wrong...especially Maggie, that's why she tried her best to make rust feel better about it...

- back to marty dumbass, how you gonna get caught, again?...he shouldn't have cheated, but if you gonna cheat, at least dont get caught....i mean, I understand why he fukked beth...I would've beat the brakes off that bytch too, but he didn't learn from his mistakes with the first one...it don't seem like beth was gonna tell and she was bout business, but his dumbass couldn't help but fukk that up...

- did I mention marty wife looked damn good?...and beth looked damn good?...and the way beth knew what she wanted and wasn't afraid to ask, shiiiittttt....she would've made a great fukk buddy/side piece...

- lol at rust offering to buy marty a beer, but then looking at his car and seeing he doing a lil better than himself and changing that shyt up....'second thought, why don't you buy me a beer' lol...

...cant wait for next week's episode...we gonna finally start finding out more about all the fukked up shyt those cats in that yellow king cult were doing....think that video rust shows marty is gonna be the last piece to convince him to help him...
 

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watched the ep late (on holiday)

that girl from banshee :noah: marty is a lucky man, first hes fukking a girl with a perfect set of t*ts now hes got one of the best young pawgs in the game.

milf maggie knew that would hit marty the hardest, rust got used like a cheap condom, that post nut clarity though :lolbron:.

last 2 eps better have more fire though, that preview looks like marty sees his daughter getting molested :to:
 

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She didn't want him back, when Rust was givin her the :camby:she said something like "he is gonna have to leave he wont be able to live with this", she wanted to ether his soul.

"Get back" as in revenge.:snoop:

 
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Definitely even more-so. She forgave him and gave him a second chance and he still cheated on her again. He got what was coming to him and if it wasn't with Rust it would've been with someone else. She just wanted to go with someone she already knew and trusted instead of a random stranger at a bar. Due to his intoxication and man's weakness for a wet p*ssy he lost himself in orgasmic pleasure, once he experienced the post-nut guilt he realized what had just happened and became infuriated because he understood the consequences. That bytch didn't have to tell Marty WHO she fukked though, that was :demonic:

naw, she had to tell him...he wouldn't have left like she wanted if she didn't...
 

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In episode 1, Marty says to Rust, "Do you have a chapter in that book on jumping to conclusions? You attach an assumption to a piece of evidence, you start to bend that narrative to support it - prejudice yourself."

There are 2 main theories that highlight this:
- NOT thinking there was a 50/50 chance that Rust and Maggie would fukk
- Believing that Rust and/or Marty were working together against the detectives

I wanna focus on the sex scene because people are actively ignoring the evidence presented.

Let's hop out of the story for a second and just analyze basic man vs woman relations. Why do men have to explain to women, that men and women cannot be friends? Why won't women leave their man alone with their "friends?" Its not about being insecure. Its about not being naive. Its not about a lack of trust. Its about not having to depend on trust. As I said after the diner scene between Maggie and Rust:

Again, because Rust doesn't believe in the fake, he's able to play the game 2 steps ahead of everyone else. We all know, we all see that Marty's wife would give it up to Rust. Rust understand this too. She's an emotionally scarred woman. She wants…she needs someone to confide in. If Rust keeps playing this middle man role, its going to get real uncomfortable. Marty's wife is going to fall in love with the time they spend. She'll start looking forward to their talks. And once that happens, its ovaaaaaaaa

lol everyone keeps thinking I'm saying Rust is gonna fukk her. Nah I'm saying Marty's wife is gonna fall in love with Rust. Rust sees this and understands that woman love to cheat emotionally. That's why he keeps his distance from her and doesn't like to invade in Marty's personal life. He don't want that. Through and through Rust is all about honor.

I hope I don't regret saying that :to:

@klutch2381 and @Type Username Here all focus on this episode as the stereotypical fall off of Rust because he "acts out of character." Well why didn't you guys think that when he opened himself up to Maggie at dinner in ep1? He's with Marty for months, and never delves into his personal life. But he decides to do so hours after meeting Maggie and the kids? How was THAT scene not lazy? Because you believe Rust letting his guard down about the death of his children makes him more masculine/complex than Rust letting his guard down to fukk Maggie…..

Everything about Rusts relationship with Marty and Maggie is "out of character." That's why he has nobody else in his life! Rust lets his guard down and dates Maggies friend because he trust the dynamic he has developed with Marty and Maggie. Rust mows Marty's lawn and chills with the family because he's finally comfortable somewhere. When Maggie suspects Marty of cheating, who does she call to confide in/figure out the truth? When Marty will not leave her job, who does Maggie call to diffuse the situation? Rust has always been Maggies way out of her marriage. She doesn't hide the fact that she thinks he's a better version of Marty either.

Now about that night: As @fillerguy has keenly noticed (though he's also wrong about the 100% out of character analysis), Rust has put up walls between himself and society. But not all have been by his own doing. That scene is not lazy and not out of character for multiple reasons:
- Rust has been working the 95 case again on his own time. It has ruined his relationship with his girlfriend and with his best friend Marty. This development means his mental state is already shaky.
- He quit his job. You remember what @Sensitive Blake Griffin said about Rust "programming" and not being able to commit suicide. You remember how Rust said because of his personality/life, he was made for the job. Well him quitting, in many ways, is his suicide. Think about how much he hated the people he worked with. Yet he kept coming back and dealing with the bullshyt.
- He's drinking again. Which brings us back to the dinner scene. Answer this question, why doesn't Rust drink anymore?

Last but not least, you guys keep quoting Maggie wrong. This is what she says at the end of the sex scene:
Rust: *stumbles back* what the fukk are you doing here
Maggie: I'm sorry…you know…it wasn't you. Really I wasn't even sure I could do it. Seventeen years is a long time. You know I almost went with a stranger, a bar. I'm sorry Rust. He'll have to go you see, because this he won't live with.
Rust: Get the fukk out of here
Maggie: This will hurt him. I'm sorry but thank you
Rust: Get the fukk out of here
Maggie: I'm - *reaches for hug*
Rust: Get the fukk out of here.

Translation:
- "It wasn't you" means,"I took advantage of you and forced myself on to you….you're not worse for this."
- The primary reason she fukked Rust was because she was incapable of fukkn anyone else. She's a mother of 2, who has been faithful and devoted to her husband for 17 years. She probably rationalized it by seeing herself as dirty and a whore by fukkn a stranger.

I rest my case.
 

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how? she wanted to stay and cuddle and be comforted. the dude's whole demeanor changed as soon as busted that nut. nikka couldn't even stand the sight of her anymore lol.


I think you may have blacked out for like 10 seconds. She definitely played him breh.


I also think we are due a curveball and it will end up being the younger daughter involved and not the older one.
 

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She said that to ether him breh. Rust only hit that for like 2 minutes, she was trolling Marty to make him furious.

not necessarily....sometimes those short, intense, passion filled fukks can be the best...and remember, she was comparing that to the last however many years of fukking from a man that barely hit it and didn't show that passion when he did hit it...
 

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explain this coincidence . 7 years later the picture in her bedroom is in the mental hospital where Rust visits? Yeah Maggie supplying the legal dope to these girls and cherry picking them for the cult .
 

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My nikka obarth put me on to this a couple nights ago:myman:

Gotta admit, its piff....I was looking for a replacement for luther since it's finished up. I was skeptical at first, but this show holds its own.:lawd:
 
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