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I’ll go into further detail when I’m off work

But why we gotta pretend like we didn’t hate 85 percent of the Lesnar and Roman feud
Doesn't mean he's not a big rival. Look how long it took Reigns to finally beat Lesnar. He still hasn't beaten Rollins. Cody ain't a bigger rival than either of them.
 

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Even if they're established you can still elevate them. After feuding with Cody they all slid down the card and felt irrelevant.
You mean AJ who went missing for months because of an injury and KO who wrestled Sami right after then is out because of injury

Gunther is world champ

Again only solo and if you want to count Logan Paul

Doesn't mean he's not a big rival. Look how long it took Reigns to finally beat Lesnar. He still hasn't beaten Rollins. Cody ain't a bigger rival than either of them.
You mean the guy who ended Roman historical run? The guy who failed the first time and spent 2 years going after him?

Your argument is basically Cody argument with Roman amazing reign added on top of it


It’s crazy of me to pitch that idea?
 

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This is literally how people described Vince, the difference is that Vince was always looking for people that could go mainstream. Also I don't think the product is the best it's ever been unless you mean by work rate. Popularity and character wise it doesn't even come close to the golden & attitude era.

In terms of storytelling and in ring work, I've never seen WWE better than this.

In terms of character work, I agree the Attitude era got that. This era isn't really trying to compete with that anyway. I feel the more surreal, over the top gimmicks wouldn't translate as well to this present time.

Popularity doesn't matter to me like that cuz I ain't making any money from any of this, so all I care about is what I like and don't like.
 

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In terms of storytelling and in ring work, I've never seen WWE better than this.

In terms of character work, I agree the Attitude era got that. This era isn't really trying to compete with that anyway. I feel the more surreal, over the top gimmicks wouldn't translate as well to this present time.

Popularity doesn't matter to me like that cuz I ain't making any money from any of this, so all I care about is what I like and don't like.
I like talented black wrestlers getting opportunities, so you can see why this new era sucks for me.

Edit: Storytelling???? Man the golden era & Austin/McMahon was leagues better at storytelling. Outside of the Bloodline what even compares? Keep in mind we're talking about the Bloodline story under HHH not Vince.
You blaming Cody and not that bum ass booking?

We can ask the same shyt about Gunther AND make the argument that this title reign hasn’t done shyt to even elevate Gunther. His IC title reign was WAAAY better.
Gunther's reign has sucked as well, neither guy can make stars which is why you can't put either of them in the S tier.
 

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I like talented black wrestlers getting opportunities, so you can see why this new era sucks for me.

Gunther's reign has sucked as well, neither guy can make stars which is why you can't put either of them in the S tier.
They’re not being booked vs the top guys. That shyt is on HHH

Neither has wrestled Roman, Seth, Punk, Jacob, LA Knight, etc. in an entire year’s time on top.

That’s Bullshyt.
 

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yeah I’m not running with that
So Roman's greatest rival isn't the person he's had a decade long feud with? The feud that produces nothing but great matches? The feud that has the most logical story behind it? Instead you think Roman's greatest rival is a person that shoehorned his way into someone else's story. :russ:
 

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They’re not being booked vs the top guys. That shyt is on HHH

Neither has wrestled Roman, Seth, Punk, Jacob, LA Knight, etc. in an entire year’s time on top.

That’s Bullshyt.

My thing is why is “who has he made a superstar” an argument

What if I don’t care and reject it

That’s just IWC thinking where someone or a storyline has to mark off every personal requirement

From Cody championship

I’ve gotten

-a 5 star match with AJ with an unforgettable audience

- great feud with KO I saw the conclusion to in person

- Cena heel turn, a historical wrestling moment is included in Cody reign which will conclude at mania

But I can’t think it’s awesome cause dudes want to be like “but who benefited from it!?”

I don’t care lol
 

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My thing is why is “who has he made a superstar” an argument

What if I don’t care and reject it

That’s just IWC thinking where someone or a storyline has to mark off every personal requirement

From Cody championship

I’ve gotten

-a 5 star match with AJ with an unforgettable audience

- great feud with KO I saw the conclusion to in person

- Cena heel turn, a historical wrestling moment is included in Cody reign which will conclude at mania

But I can’t think it’s awesome cause dudes want to be like “but who benefited from it!?”

I don’t care lol
He just don’t like cody lol

He blame Cody for not getting Rock vs Roman even though rock bald headed monkey ass ducked out on WM39 & WM41 when the match was clear to be made :russ:
 
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