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f*ckin BEAST!
you have no idea how many times I played that hov verse when I first heard that ish. i don't know if I'd rank son ahead of Rakim on a "best lyricist" list tho, I aint that mad at anybody who would though.
TOP 50 LYRICISTS (THE SOURCE EDITION) MAGAZINE SCANS
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f*ckin BEAST!
you have no idea how many times I played that hov verse when I first heard that ish. i don't know if I'd rank son ahead of Rakim on a "best lyricist" list tho, I aint that mad at anybody who would though.
lol @ beans. jadakiss had more influence on rocafella rappers than jay. hell, rocafella's roster influenced jay themselves but we're not even gonna get into that right now.
the rest of these names, all of them arent even lyricists. young jeezy? kanye west? lol.
wayne got his schtick from gillie, another guy that jay-z bit, altho you can say that the biting went both ways with those 2, but you get the point.
ross is moreso influenced by biggie and scarface.
tip is the epitomy of marginal lyricism. who cares.
i hear moreso other rappers in lupe, rather than jay.
jay bit gillie, please elaborate on this?weather waybe bit gillie or not he and ti were 2 of the biggest rappers in the game at one point, and yes ti was a very good lyricist in his prime and so was wayne
ross sounds nothing like scarface or raps nothing like him so i dont see the influence at all.
lupe admitted himself he was heavily influenced by jay on f&l which he also happened to co produce.
everything else i agree with somewhat.
Lauryn Hill is too high IMO
Big L is also too high
I also disagree with many of you on the first couple of posts on AZ....he hasn't done much to warrant be high up on a list like that. AZ hasn't really accomplished sh!t....it's just his association with Nas that makes you guys feel he's elite. Look at what his career has come to without Nas
Big L is also too high
I also disagree with many of you on the first couple of posts on AZ....he hasn't done much to warrant be high up on a list like that. AZ hasn't really accomplished sh!t....it's just his association with Nas that makes you guys feel he's elite. Look at what his career has come to without Nas
ti
wayne
ross
fab
were all good lyricist at some point of there careers, maybe not now (wayne, fab, ti,)
ross is heavily influenced by both jay and nas.
Lil Kim? 
Also would like to see G Rap higher, and Lord Finesse would be a dope addition.
Also would like to see G Rap higher, and Lord Finesse would be a dope addition.
28 Gramz
How U Luv That???
Wayne is his prime was definitley influenced by Jay-Z and he was great rapper.
TI never sounded influenced by Jay-Z to me.
Ross has Jay,BIG and Nas influences on his "maybach music" type tracks.
Fab to me is more influenced by Harlem nikkas than Jay-Z, that multi's/punchline shyt started with Mase/Big L and all them.
TI never sounded influenced by Jay-Z to me.
Ross has Jay,BIG and Nas influences on his "maybach music" type tracks.
Fab to me is more influenced by Harlem nikkas than Jay-Z, that multi's/punchline shyt started with Mase/Big L and all them.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
lol @ big L being too high.
AZ at his peak is a top 10 lyricist. lol @ trying to say that his association with nas had anything to do with it. there was a time when AZ' career was more successful than nas'. as for what his career has come to, dude got caught up in 2 or 3 crippling label situations. most notably, his 1st label basically throwing his career under the bus after the success of his debut.
weather waybe bit gillie or not he and ti were 2 of the biggest rappers in the game at one point, and yes ti was a very good lyricist in his prime and so was wayne
ross sounds nothing like scarface or raps nothing like him so i dont see the influence at all.
lupe admitted himself he was heavily influenced by jay on f&l which he also happened to co produce.
everything else i agree with somewhat.
jay sharked some of gillie chit. jay sharked chit from alot of niccas. notably a number of philly niccas during that time and there was backlash for that. and you do know that gillie turned down a rocafella deal, right?
wayne didnt bite gillie. gillie GAVE wayne his style and wrote alot of his stuff at one point.
ross' main selling point is the whole scarface/biggie mashup.
the lupe quote sounds more like a statement of convenience, seeing that jay took the time out to be apart of the album, even moreso than he did for his own artists.
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All Star
lol 50 is not the best lyricist in his own crew
Grap is too low,he had more influence on nikkas then Rakim I would say as far as style....why he's that low? The name Rakim has just gotten more massaging over the years.
And no I didn't mean Big Daddy Kane,influencing jay don't mean he influenced everybody Jay influenced.
28 Gramz
How U Luv That???
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
eminem #6 while cannibus is #44.
no gripes with ll cool j being where hes at but kool moe dee is a better lyricist and hes not even mentioned.
wheres lord finesse?
killa cam & murder mase would ish on probably half of the people mentioned.
none of the o.g. super-lyrical cats are even mentioned.
and again, wheres AZ & beanie siegal!!??
no gripes with ll cool j being where hes at but kool moe dee is a better lyricist and hes not even mentioned.
wheres lord finesse?
killa cam & murder mase would ish on probably half of the people mentioned.
none of the o.g. super-lyrical cats are even mentioned.
and again, wheres AZ & beanie siegal!!??
Big Mel
@bigboss
terrible list. truly awful. shameful on many levels.
it sounds like you have gillie mistaken for chris because i never heard of jay biting off of gillie, obvious ducktales.
its the same as biting.
ross sounds nothing like scarface, he sounds more like eightball than scarface again idk where your getting this shyt from, his selling point is songs life bmf and most of his singles where he has no face influence.
what rocafella artist even released a album in 06 besides jay?