Today's generation doesn't have a single GREAT rapper

[Pifferry]

i'm a big fan of kendrick. but i started listening to him like 5 years ago. not sure i'd consider him a "new" rapper

but i'm over this genre for the most part..pathetic, juvenile lyrics and immature concepts

Oh okay then I mostly agree with you.

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

this trash thread got stickied

 

[blackslash]

Who stickied this garbage....the mod who did it is a trash mod fact only

 

[Cynic]

Rocky got on with Live.Love.ASAP with damn near zero radio play. "Peso" got some play on New York radio, and that's about it.

Dude was touring the world off one phenomenal internet tape.

"fukkin Problems" was definitely a radio record that got play. I'm not sure if "Wild For the Night" got played (I never heard it). But aside from those two joints, Rocky hasn't seen radio. and I haven't heard his new shyt on any radio station.

LOL at nobody checking for asap right now. Y'all say this every month/year without fail, and are proven wrong every time. Yet you still say it.



Again, LOL. Lil B is probably bigger than he has ever been, particularly because of his NBA trolling.



You missed my point.

What I'm trying to say is that Lil B and Rocky actually have genuine movements that were built online and have sustained audience interest over years. Which is impressive no matter how you look at it. Their music actually speaks for itself in an age where rappers are label/cosign-created and only sell units if radio/big labels push them.



I agree. I never said Lil B and Rocky were on that level. They aren't. Check the title.

I was just making fun of the people who shyt on Lil B and Rocky, without realizing that those two are arguably the most successful rappers of this generation with minimal label push. Which tells me that there is something special about them. I'd also add Mac Miller to that list even though I'm not a big fan.

Asap blew off label push... We've covered this


Lil B has history... Asap blew overnight from being a label plant...there is nothing wrong with that

The biggest hit of his career featured Drake and Kendrick... please stop


Who are these great rappers from "your generation" ?

 

[SirBiatch]

Asap blew off label push... We've covered this

nowhere near the top tier rappers. He was already one of/if not the most visible underground rapper prior to fukkin Problems. fukkin Problems was the big push to mainstream. We already covered this.

Stop pretending like Rocky and Lil B get the same radio effort/funds to push them as Kendrick, Drake, J Cole, etc.

Who are these great rappers from "your generation" ?

Wu-tang, Nas, Jigga, Missy, DMX.... I really don't want to keep typing.

 

[Cynic]

nowhere near the top tier rappers. He was already one of/if not the most visible underground rapper prior to fukkin Problems. fukkin Problems was the big push to mainstream. We already covered this.

Stop pretending like Rocky and Lil B get the same radio effort/funds to push them as Kendrick, Drake, J Cole, etc.



Wu-tang, Nas, Jigga, Missy, DMX.... I really don't want to keep typing.

How would you react if an old head like Art Barr said they all trash....

Infact none of that generation was great.... Kane, Rakim, Krs-one, Run DMC are "real greats"

 

[Kaypain]

This account has to be a alias why the fukk is this shyt stickied

 

[SirBiatch]

How would you react if an old head like Art Barr said they all trash....

Infact none of that generation was great.... Kane, Rakim, Krs-one, Run DMC are "real greats"

a) that would never happen because hip hop was actually hip hop back then, and there were lots of quality releases for serious participants. Bambaataa said in a Vlad TV interview recently that the last hip hop acts he was really feeling were Missy Elliot and Busta Rhymes. What era is that? My era.

Harlem World is the first album I purchased as a teen and loved. I was just talking to an OG recently and he brought up how he loved that album (without me mentioning Mase or Harlem World at all - unlike how Kendrick's and Eminem's name are shoehorned into interviews). dude's in his late 40s if not early 50s.

Fact of the matter is that it didn't matter what age you were because hip hop wasn't a kid genre: it was just a genre. Since the 90s, and specifically the mid-to-late 90s, corporations decided to rebrand it as a kid/tween genre and it's been going shyt ever since.

b) Even if Art Barr said so, I'd ask myself the tough and honest questions to see if his reasoning made sense. If it did, I would accept it. If not, I'd say fukk him and keep it moving.

 

[Cynic]

a) that would never happen because hip hop was way better back then, and obvious to any serious participant. Bambaataa said in a Vlad TV interview recently that the last hip hop acts he was really feeling were Missy Elliot and Busta Rhymes. What era is that? My era.

Harlem World is the first album I purchased as a teen and loved. I was just talking to an OG randomly and he brought up how he loved that album. dude's in his late 40s if not early 50s.

b) Even if Art Barr said so, I'd ask myself the tough and honest questions to see if his reasoning made sense. If it did, I would accept it. If not, I'd say fukk him and keep it moving.

An 80s loving SirBiatch would say Bambaataa just giving cosigns to be down with the kids ...it's forced and corny and not authentic youcan tell he doesn't really fukk with Missy and Busta

Every generation sh1ts on the next breh, this ain't new... there are some old heads who won't let their eras go

and where does it stop ? Soul/funk heads would argue ain't a damn thing "great" about hip hop

What would you say to them breh ?

 

[Izanami]

Forest Hill Drive
Tetsou & Youth
Dark Sky Paradise
To Pimp A Butterfly
Album About Nothing







All fire

 

[SirBiatch]

An 80s loving SirBiatch would say Bambaataa just giving cosigns to be down with the kids ...it's forced and corny and not authentic youcan tell he doesn't really fukk with Missy and Busta

Every generation sh1ts on the next breh, this ain't new... there are some old heads who won't let their eras go

and where does it stop ? Soul/funk heads would argue ain't a damn thing "great" about hip hop

What would you say to them breh ?

My dude... cmon. You're trying too hard. But in a way I don't blame you because hip hop is so splintered that obvious shyt isn't obvious anymore.

Let me put it like this: I know an OG who worked in the business who was in his 30s when Wu-tang debuted. He has a Cuban Linx tattoo and thought it was one of the greatest shyts he'd ever heard. His era is Whodini, Run DMC and them.

I've had a convo with Ernie Paniccioli (look him up) and he loved Wu-tang. One of his all-time, top 3 favorite rappers is MF DOOM. Think about when Madvillainy came out, and how long Ernie's been listening to hip hop and photographing it. If he was really stuck in the past, he would have no idea who DOOM was. Ernie's also a big Nas fan. Think about it.

You young cats are so stuck on this "they hating on us because we're young" stuff that you fail to see the major point: Your generation sucks. And it's not even run by you. It's run by old ass people like Angie Martinez's friends. The corny ones who run the industry and see hip hop as a bank to fuel their expensive lifestyles. So yeah, they'll fund your new one-hit wonder and wack ass rapper to the youth because y'all don't know better.

Yes, some of us are bitter and hating. And have grown up to be conservative in our listening tastes, so we're stuck in the past. But that's a certain percentage. The rest of us are fans for life. And if you're a new cat who's really dope, we'll champion you. Look at how many ASAP Rocky posts I make, and I'm from the 90s. I genuinely fukk with dude. I haven't liked a new rapper as much in 10 years easy, and I think his best shyt rivals some of the best I've ever heard from hip hop when it comes to atmosphere and eclectic production.

I give props where they're due.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Kendrick the closest, although his shyt is mostly sick flows more so than lyrics. He homicides a few songs though Look Out For Detox for sure.

Nas Jay Elec various underground brehs the lyrical top notch mc's in today's stratosphere

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

what if someone said those rappers and their music is fake-deep and dull?

This nikka said "fake deep".

nikka, "fake deep" is a term that fukking retards use for music they don't understand.

fukking Kendrick found away to weave parables from the bible into a record about how Amerikkka destroys Black people through systemic racism. That's not "fake deep"

a) that would never happen because hip hop was actually hip hop back then, and there were lots of quality releases for serious participants. Bambaataa said in a Vlad TV interview recently that the last hip hop acts he was really feeling were Missy Elliot and Busta Rhymes. What era is that? My era.

Harlem World is the first album I purchased as a teen and loved. I was just talking to an OG recently and he brought up how he loved that album (without me mentioning Mase or Harlem World at all - unlike how Kendrick's and Eminem's name are shoehorned into interviews). dude's in his late 40s if not early 50s.

Fact of the matter is that it didn't matter what age you were because hip hop wasn't a kid genre: it was just a genre. Since the 90s, and specifically the mid-to-late 90s, corporations decided to rebrand it as a kid/tween genre and it's been going shyt ever since.

b) Even if Art Barr said so, I'd ask myself the tough and honest questions to see if his reasoning made sense. If it did, I would accept it. If not, I'd say fukk him and keep it moving.

Harlem World?

That gay ass Mase shyt?

That Puff/Mase era is what fukked up Hip-Hop in the first fukkn' place.

They're the ones who made Hip-Hop a kiddie genre with them nikkaz on TRL with Britney and Christina and shyt.

An 80s loving SirBiatch would say Bambaataa just giving cosigns to be down with the kids ...it's forced and corny and not authentic youcan tell he doesn't really fukk with Missy and Busta

Every generation sh1ts on the next breh, this ain't new... there are some old heads who won't let their eras go

and where does it stop ? Soul/funk heads would argue ain't a damn thing "great" about hip hop

What would you say to them breh ?

That's not true.

NOBODY from the old school was shytting on Nas, Biggie, Wu, 2pac, etc. . when they were out.

Snoop got a little bit of flak for "biting Slick Rick" in some heads minds, but the best rappers of the '90s were almost universally respected.

When "Illmatic" came out, The Source gave it 5 mics and it was like a fukking holiday or something.

Method Man was like a god at one point.

The "generational divide" started after Pac/Biggie died and dudes like Mase/Puff/Jay/Eminem started taking Hip-Hop in a poppier direction and all of us "heads" started at their asses

Kendrick the closest, although his shyt is mostly sick flows more so than lyrics. He homicides a few songs though Look Out For Detox for sure.

Nas Jay Elec various underground brehs the lyrical top notch mc's in today's stratosphere

Dudes lyrics are the main part of his appeal

Dudes are on Genius.com doing exegetical studies on "To Pimp A Butterfly"

http://genius.com/Genius-an-exegetical-study-of-to-pimp-a-butterfly-lyrics

 

[SirBiatch]

This nikka said "fake deep".

nikka, "fake deep" is a term that fukking retards use for music they don't understand.

fukking Kendrick found away to weave parables from the bible into a record about how Amerikkka destroys Black people through systemic racism. That's not "fake deep"

Kendrick is the new Lupe who makes music like a bad Andre 3000. He references cliche topics that get pseudo-intellectuals hard while not actually saying anything profound because he has no insight to give. that is the definition of fake-deep.

Tell me one line that Kendrick said that made you go "Whoa... that's deep" and tell me why you find it deep.

Also, let me not forget to say: "fukk the bible."

Harlem World?

That gay ass Mase shyt?

That Puff/Mase era is what fukked up Hip-Hop in the first fukkn' place.

They're the ones who made Hip-Hop a kiddie genre with them nikkaz on TRL with Britney and Christina and shyt.

while all this is true, Harlem World > Kendrick's discography by far. Mase in 97 raps circles around anyone rapping now, period.

Take What's Yours > GKMC

I mentioned Harlem World to show that even pop rap in 97 went harder than 99.9% of shyt out now.

That's not true.

NOBODY from the old school was shytting on Nas, Biggie, Wu, 2pac, etc. . when they were out.

Snoop got a little bit of flak for "biting Slick Rick" in some heads minds, but the best rappers of the '90s were almost universally respected.

When "Illmatic" came out, The Source gave it 5 mics and it was like a fukking holiday or something.

Method Man was like a god at one point.

The "generational divide" started after Pac/Biggie died and dudes like Mase/Puff/Jay/Eminem started taking Hip-Hop in a poppier direction and all of us "heads" started at their asses

all this is true.

 

[retroracer]

My dude... cmon. You're trying too hard. But in a way I don't blame you because hip hop is so splintered that obvious shyt isn't obvious anymore.

Let me put it like this: I know an OG who worked in the business who was in his 30s when Wu-tang debuted. He has a Cuban Linx tattoo and thought it was one of the greatest shyts he'd ever heard. His era is Whodini, Run DMC and them.

I've had a convo with Ernie Paniccioli (look him up) and he loved Wu-tang. One of his all-time, top 3 favorite rappers is MF DOOM. Think about when Madvillainy came out, and how long Ernie's been listening to hip hop and photographing it. If he was really stuck in the past, he would have no idea who DOOM was. Ernie's also a big Nas fan. Think about it.

You young cats are so stuck on this "they hating on us because we're young" stuff that you fail to see the major point: Your generation sucks. And it's not even run by you. It's run by old ass people like Angie Martinez's friends. The corny ones who run the industry and see hip hop as a bank to fuel their expensive lifestyles. So yeah, they'll fund your new one-hit wonder and wack ass rapper to the youth because y'all don't know better.

Yes, some of us are bitter and hating. And have grown up to be conservative in our listening tastes, so we're stuck in the past. But that's a certain percentage. The rest of us are fans for life. And if you're a new cat who's really dope, we'll champion you. Look at how many ASAP Rocky posts I make, and I'm from the 90s. I genuinely fukk with dude. I haven't liked a new rapper as much in 10 years easy, and I think his best shyt rivals some of the best I've ever heard from hip hop when it comes to atmosphere and eclectic production.

I give props where they're due.

except Doom first popped off int eh early 90s with KMD you know nothing dummy