Today's generation doesn't have a single GREAT rapper

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Drake is probably the best rapper of his generation. He's one of the few with a real identity and stays to who he is. I'm not a fan; he sings waaaaaay to much for me but he's in his own lane. Props to him.

I've never heard anyone mention Wale as being great. Good, sure. Not sure about great. J.Cole is good, puts out good music, good albums but who keeps him in rotation? No one. Kendrick I'm up in the air about. I can't listen to that Butterfly album and I thought that GKMC was just okay as far as musically. I think he experiments too much. Most of those other dudes sound the same. They're either extra hippy (most of them have to be puttin on a front) or extra-thuggish.

Drake has more quoted lyrics than any of his peers....it's not even close. He's the closest to great and will probably go down as one. Honestly, Budden may be the last truly great rapper.
 

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I don't understand it either man... people mention Drake but I think Kendrick raps circles around him. Drake to me was promising when he first came out but he just ended up being another generic, average ass rapper.

Dude started out a phonte clone and evolved into his own style, I'll give him that. As for kendrick, dude is really talented and has lots of potential which excites me
 

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How do y'all even gauge greatness? Is it lyrics? albums? overall projects? Current temperature (like media publications)?

It can't be music because Rick Ross probably has the best run of albums and no one is calling him great. It can't be lyrics because y'all not even quoting them for memorable verses. If it's temperature, will y'all call out...let's say Kendrick...if he releases some trash? Well they didn't for Jay & Kanye or Jay/Kanye.

We used to judge on bars, then albums. That's why Canibus caught it for Can-i-bus. Nas for Nastradamus, Rae for Immobilarity. Prodigy's fall off, and even he was still putting out good music, the lyrics just weren't there. When Com Sense dropped Electric Circus, 3Stacks started avoiding rapping entirely. Y'all scared to challenge y'all favorites. Hll, y'all are more in touch with them than we ever were and won't tell them that it was trash. These ninjas don't know you.
 

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Drake is probably the best rapper of his generation. He's one of the few with a real identity and stays to who he is. I'm not a fan; he sings waaaaaay to much for me


True. It's a shame too. Hip-hop got better every year throughout the 80's & 90's up to about the mid 2000s. After that, it became what it is now. Even at this point with all of the rappers, they have really made the game regress.
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Drake is probably the best rapper of his generation. He's one of the few with a real identity and stays to who he is. I'm not a fan; he sings waaaaaay to much for me but he's in his own lane. Props to him.

I've never heard anyone mention Wale as being great. Good, sure. Not sure about great. J.Cole is good, puts out good music, good albums but who keeps him in rotation? No one. Kendrick I'm up in the air about. I can't listen to that Butterfly album and I thought that GKMC was just okay as far as musically. I think he experiments too much. Most of those other dudes sound the same. They're either extra hippy (most of them have to be puttin on a front) or extra-thuggish.

Drake has more quoted lyrics than any of his peers....it's not even close. He's the closest to great and will probably go down as one. Honestly, Budden may be the last truly great rapper.
Early Drake is heavily influenced by the emo god imo.
 

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Drake is probably the best rapper of his generation. He's one of the few with a real identity and stays to who he is. I'm not a fan; he sings waaaaaay to much for me but he's in his own lane. Props to him.

I've never heard anyone mention Wale as being great. Good, sure. Not sure about great. J.Cole is good, puts out good music, good albums but who keeps him in rotation? No one. Kendrick I'm up in the air about. I can't listen to that Butterfly album and I thought that GKMC was just okay as far as musically. I think he experiments too much. Most of those other dudes sound the same. They're either extra hippy (most of them have to be puttin on a front) or extra-thuggish.

Drake has more quoted lyrics than any of his peers....it's not even close. He's the closest to great and will probably go down as one. Honestly, Budden may be the last truly great rapper.

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Ludacris > Budden and I wouldn't even consider Luda the last truly great rapper.
 

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Drake is probably the best rapper of his generation. He's one of the few with a real identity and stays to who he is. I'm not a fan; he sings waaaaaay to much for me but he's in his own lane. Props to him.

I've never heard anyone mention Wale as being great. Good, sure. Not sure about great. J.Cole is good, puts out good music, good albums but who keeps him in rotation? No one. Kendrick I'm up in the air about. I can't listen to that Butterfly album and I thought that GKMC was just okay as far as musically. I think he experiments too much. Most of those other dudes sound the same. They're either extra hippy (most of them have to be puttin on a front) or extra-thuggish.

Drake has more quoted lyrics than any of his peers....it's not even close. He's the closest to great and will probably go down as one. Honestly, Budden may be the last truly great rapper.
So its about popularity right Mrs.?
 

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Drake is definitely a great rapper, listen from Room For Improvement all the way till now, started off as a Phonte/Joe Budden hybrid rhyming over really smooth R&B type production evolutioned and experimented and has been at the top of the game for a few years now. He's got the classic mixtape So Far Gone, he's got the classic album in Take Care and he's been apart of some many records that will go on to shape this generation for better or worse depends on what you think of this generation. I think he makes good music and just has a dope ear for melodies, hooks and beats and he's proven especially on his early material that he can rap his ass off.

Kendrick Lamar is a great rapper. Lyrics, flow, content, beat selection he has it, his voice isn't the greatest but the man's catalog is full of very good music. All of his official projects really are worthy of critical acclaim, he's is a great conceptual artist and the best storyteller in the game right now.

I feel like those two guys are great everyone else is just good, I take it you consider this generation to be guys who came out in '09 when the Drake, Cole, Kendrick, Cudi, Odd Future, etc. all started popping to now.
 

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For the most part, you've got generic turn-up clones on one side and smart-dumb fake-deep generic nikkas on the other. All of them with dull beats, voices and vague/dull rhymes.

LOL at nikkas who criticize Rocky and Lil B for not having 'depth' but listen to Wet Dreamz and King Kunta on repeat. :pachaha:

Y'all don't have a single rapper that says clear mindblowing shyt. In fact, the greatest rhymes I've heard from the new school are from Lil B due to the sheer absurdity, uniqueness, and sincerity in his ramblings.

Rewindable quotables though? Not even close. Y'all really think some new cat is approaching 1/10th the depth of a Nas/Jay-Z/Jeru The Damaja/Kool G Rap etc rhyme? :mjlol:

Y'all as a whole simply don't care about depth. Stop pretending you do when it benefits your stilted logic.

Go ahead and neg and make your usual deflecting comments. The real know exactly what I'm talking about.
you had it till you mentioned those two artists
 

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you had it till you mentioned those two artists

ASAP Rocky and Lil B are arguably the most popular new generation rappers that have zero or near-zero radio play. You think they could have pulled that off with weak music?

things that make you go hmmm
 
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