To this day, I'm the ONLY person to say "Big Papa" by Biggie was blatantly biting west coast sound.

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take your dumb cac ass back to sports thread, you don't know shyt about music, ice cube rapped on the same beast as grand master flash, eastcoast was always about melodies, from white lines, to TROY, paid in full, which another west coast artist tupac used the same beat lmao

YOU GOT A BE A RETARDED CAC WIT NO SOUL TO THINK THAT EAST COAST IS COMPARABLE TO WEST COAST WHEN IT COMES TO BEIN MELODIC. GET UR HEAD CHECKED, WHITEBOY.
 

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Such a stupid statement.

LA shyt even still today has a smoother approach to the production. Synth bass,keys, the instrumentation alot of the times sounds like some 80s r&b.

Especially with Quik beats/Daz.

LOL WE QUOTED THAT RETARD AT THE SAME TIME. SOME PEOPLE JUST DONT DESERVE FINGERS TO TYPE WITH.
 

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Of course it was what Dre was doing before NWA.....Thats the influence right there. Listen to "Panic Zone." This old sounding shyt dropped in 89 (tho I know it was probably put together in 87) and sounds like some Afrikka Bambatta wannabe bullshyt.




But your "specific" definition by the description of G Funk does fall into that same category..And u know it. U just fronting now because u never admit when wrong.


That was also the same album that had Dre sampling Whodini.

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the rhythm alone is why electro-hop and g-funk are two distinct sounds

Classic (1980s) electro drum patterns tend to be electronic emulations of breakbeats (occasionally a four to the floor pattern is used as well), with a syncopated kick drum, and usually a snare or clap accenting the backbeat. The difference between electro drumbeats and breakbeats (or breaks) is that electro tends to be more mechanical, while breakbeats tend to have more of a human-like feel, like that of a live drummer. The definition however is somewhat ambiguous in nature due to the various uses of the term.[11]
 

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So..... what does that mean:gucci:

And hyponitize was sampled from a beat from the movie beat street. Nothing westcoast about it
Hypnotize is funky,the sound of the west coast at that time was smooth/funky shyt.

The bass sound in hypnotize is a major characteristic in west coast sounding beats.

Hypnotize is in no way an east coast sounding beat. You think of East coast/NYC beats you think of more gutter shyt.
 

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G funk died when it ran out of p funk records to sample

G-Funk is still being made right now w/o sampling pfunk records


there is was never no west coast sound, it was always a midwest sound,

false

nwa music wasn't like any of that shyt,

NWA was mainly standard hiphop from the east coast but with a west coast attitude. Some NWA songs are electro-hop and some of it is early G-Funk




too day was good day was a regular boom bap beat lmao

boom bap but a with a classic west sample/feel



check yourself before your wreck yourself was the same beat as grand master flash not even the same sample the same exact beat
etc

see above

there was never no west coast sound,

false

dr dre sample parliament the same way puffy sample 80's hits for his shiny suit era sound
that's it

which is why P-Funk is associated with the West Coast and Diddy/Shiny Suit era is associated with the East Coast

the real west coast sound is the bay area, they had a sound consistent from the beginning

yes, a subset of west coast hiphop

and it is still here till this day, LA never had a sound

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Hypnotize is funky,the sound of the west coast at that time was smooth/funky shyt.

The bass sound in hypnotize is a major characteristic in west coast sounding beats.

Hypnotize is in no way an east coast sounding beat. You think of East coast/NYC beats you think of more gutter shyt.
Which is the misconception. And precisely the problem, the east coast was more diverse than that
How can a city that started bounce music be pigeonholed to just boom bap. Theres nothing on the west that sounded like hypnotize stop it
 

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Common sense..its why westcoast nyggas loved some of his big tracks when the West ruled everything. Biggie saved the eastcoast..that's why he's so loved today. They were getting murdered by Snoop, Westside Connection, Dogg Pound, Domino, Too Short, E 40, and then Tupac took utterly over with Me Against the World and All Eyez On Me. Juicy and Big Poppa gave the eastcoast life...Jay Z was putting out Sunshine in some wannabe Mase like outfit but Biggie was on fire. I thought Victory SUCKED but everything else was pretty hot...Junior Mafia and Player's Anthem was blazing. Lil Kim started dropping serious heat too...



well to be clear hov put out sunshine after biggie had already passed away. biggie was alive for reasonable doubt not in my lifetime vol 1... but i ain't finna throw out the baby with the bath water here because you are spitting nothing but facts


west coast nikkas were bodying us sales wise because their music was different than ours. you could put on popular west coast shyt at any club and girls start dancing regardless of what the lyrical content was. but when you play popular east coast shyt it was more for nikkas to bop their heads to and listen to lyrics. a fact that i couldn't understand at the time. every time we went to the club we were bombarded with dancehall reggae and uptempo R&B with very little hip hop. and when they played those few hip hop records like onyx throw your guns or redman time 4 sum aksion the girls pretty much stopped dancing and just watched us jump up and down in amusement from the side lines


puffy as intelligent and perceptive as he is peeped the game and told biggie nah we ain't doing machine gun funk as the first single because bytches don't want to hear that in the club. nikka rap over this mtume instead... here write to this isley brothers between the sheets because these hoes ain't finna hit the dance floor when unbelievable comes on.. which underground east coast oriented biggie didn't understand at the time so he was initially resistant. but once he acquiesced and saw the reaction he got when they threw it on in the club there was no turning back lol. he really doubled down on "female friendly" beats and gave us one more chance remix and other classics. so yeah bad boy, puffy and biggie saved the east coast. i can remember that from about 1992 to 1994 nikkas were complaining about west coast rap on new york radio and it wasn't just deathrow, tupac and domino either. mista grimm indo smoke got alotta burn for instance which made some new york nikkas catch feelings. jay even addressed it on reasonable doubt with "too much west coast dikk lickin" lol


as far as sales west coast nikkas were always gonna out do us because new york is different than the rest of the country. ice cube being from cali has way more in common with a nikka from texas, alabama, nebraska, chicago or florida than jeru the damaja. our accents, vowel sounds, vernacular, rap style and choice of beats are hella regional and don't always translate to a mass audience like tupac or too short. it's the same reason that the south has been dominating since 2003. they can talk about fukkin nikkas up like three six mafia hit a mothafukka and the bytches go wild in the club lol. and not to mention that they represent more of black america geographically and redefined cool.... anyway i've said enough getting off track and shyt, it's just an interesting topic to me....
 
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G-Funk is still being made right now w/o sampling pfunk records




false



NWA was mainly standard hiphop from the east coast but with a west coast attitude. Some NWA songs are electro-hop and some of it is early G-Funk






boom bap but a with a classic west sample/feel





see above



false



which is why P-Funk is associated with the West Coast and Diddy/Shiny Suit era is associated with the East Coast



yes, a subset of west coast hiphop



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It's not real funk though, its a cheap imitation, you can't emulate p funk its either or not, which is why those records are still classic and get love today and the g funk you say being made today nobody cares about

Also Funk is not a west coast sound, its a Southern sound

South and midwest were using the those same instruments in their beats without samples from the very beginning
and continued to do so till this day where the entire music landscape is designed of the midwest swing and the southern bass

The bay isn't sub anything is the bay, it stands alone the bay sound is the bay sound alone it has nothing to do with the westcoast, when people thought of the westcoast they thought of Dre, Cube, those artist, and the "west coast" sound died with those artist

all that music from that era besides the classic records from dre, cube, eazy e, are fukking trash

west side connection is fukking trash, cypress hill is trash, warren g sucks he got one good song regulators
nate dogg was his own artist, he had his own sound that transcended genre which is why he continued to have success long after the "g funk era"

the westcoast did not invent funk, they called it g funk because they gang banged over funk samples
scarface was considered G funk too and seen a an die came out in 1994 the same as regulator

it was always a southern sound which the midwest is influenced with by the south because people from midwest parents came from the south





the scarface beat is shytty on the entire westcoast

stop it with this bullshyt
 
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Hypnotize is funky,the sound of the west coast at that time was smooth/funky shyt.

The bass sound in hypnotize is a major characteristic in west coast sounding beats.

Hypnotize is in no way an east coast sounding beat. You think of East coast/NYC beats you think of more gutter shyt.

westcoast had no sound it was fake southern music

thats why the south came in and put them nikkaz out of business

then fake sounding dre 2001 beats became the generic west coast sound lmao
 
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