To this day, I'm the ONLY person to say "Big Papa" by Biggie was blatantly biting west coast sound.

[FreedMind]

 

[ISO]

nah you ain't the only one because lord jamar said the same exact thing on dj vlad around last year

and i guess it's about that g funk "whistle" on the hook as opposed to the sample itself, anybody know the proper term for that shyt? think the musical intro of menace to society, i call it a whistle for lack of a better term.....

Menace intro is hard af

 

[LiIZaneFan1978]

nah you ain't the only one because lord jamar said the same exact thing on dj vlad around last year

and i guess it's about that g funk "whistle" on the hook as opposed to the sample itself, anybody know the proper term for that shyt? think the musical intro of menace to society, i call it a whistle for lack of a better term.....

synth or synthesizer

 

[lightbearerchef]

I hope u washed yo hands today OP

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

That I know of.

I was saying it when this song first dropped. Nobody I knew was able to pick up on it.



And so was Hypnotized, and obviously going back to Cali. I think the whole east vs. west hurt Big inside because he had love for L.A. and wanted to be accepted. And its probably why he went back not log after Pac got killed because he probably figured there would be unity on both sides.

It’s openly obvious that Diddy was employing people to bring the Dr. Dre sample formula to life but he used 80s hits instead of 70s jams

 

[smokeurobinson]

and i guess it's about that g funk "whistle" on the hook as opposed to the sample itself,

But when u go back to 88. Those whistles were PE first. Eazy E's song "radio" samples "Rebel without A Pause" which means Dre was influenced by Bomb Squad. So by the time u get to those whistles on "Dope Man" we already know the PE influence is there. These 2 songs were big in hip hop and came before Dopeman. For further proof of how big Rebel Without A Pause was...go back to that Combat Jack episide were he had Chuck D and listen to how passionate Combat Jack gets when describing how "Rebel..." was when it hit the streets.











Add the fact that Cube said out of his owm mouth that F The Police was influenced by Bring The Noise and that they were trying to sound like PE. I'm not gonna even mention EPMDs influence on that west coast sound. Bottom line..the west coast sound was just a remix of the east coast sounds that we abandoned.

 

[How Sway?]

Not only that but "juicy" too. Even "one more chance" to an extent was west coast influenced.
And that's what they were going for since the west was running shyt back then.
But the rest of the album was strictly grimy east coast shyt.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

But when u go back to 88. Those whistles were PE first. Eazy E's song "radio" samples "Rebel without A Pause" which means Dre was influenced by Bomb Squad. So by the time u get to those whistles on "Dope Man" we already know the PE influence is there. These 2 songs were big in hip hop and came before Dopeman.

those PE songs with whistle are not same as those synthy lines you get in G-Funk or Dope Man

 

[KlinicalCynic]

nah you ain't the only one because lord jamar said the same exact thing on dj vlad around last year

and i guess it's about that g funk "whistle" on the hook as opposed to the sample itself, anybody know the proper term for that shyt? think the musical intro of menace to society, i call it a whistle for lack of a better term.....

That funky worm

 

[smokeurobinson]

those PE songs with whistle are not same as those synthy lines you get in G-Funk or Dope Man

You're playing stupid. Dope Man wasn't Synth...it was a sample.Just like PEs "rebel without a pause" was a sample. So u trying to intergrate sample and synth right now is u reaching. PE sampled first..Dre sampled after. Dre didnt synth shyt on Dope Man and u know it.

This is the sample right here.....Dre didnt play this on no fuking keyboard, he sampled it.

timestamped....

The synths on nikkaz4Life came after all of this......

 

[old boy]

But when u go back to 88. Those whistles were PE first. Eazy E's song "radio" samples "Rebel without A Pause" which means Dre was influenced by Bomb Squad. So by the time u get to those whistles on "Dope Man" we already know the PE influence is there. These 2 songs were big in hip hop and came before Dopeman. For further proof of how big Rebel Without A Pause was...go back to that Combat Jack episide were he had Chuck D and listen to how passionate Combat Jack gets when describing how "Rebel..." was when it hit the streets.


Add the fact that Cube said out of his owm mouth that F The Police was influenced by Bring The Noise and that they were trying to sound like PE. I'm not gonna even mention EPMDs influence on that west coast sound. Bottom line..the west coast sound was just a remix of the east coast sounds that we abandoned.

yeah man it's the same exact sample they used for terminator x on the edge of panic, unpopular opinion but i actually prefer that over rebel. while we at it bomb squad also did a similar whistle/horn wail on cold lampin with flavor too


good analysis you made there with the epmd connection because i honestly never gave it much thought. e double was doing zapp and p funk when the west coast was just climbing outta the arabian prince techno sound into the hard looped drums and soul samples we heard on straight outta compton & eazy duz it

synth or synthesizer

thanks bro i feel ridiculous for not knowing that lol

Menace intro is hard af

you ain't never lie good god that shyt is crack. i legit used to kick my horrible freestyle rhymes over that shyt because it was so crazy lol. made me wanna get a jheri curl, flannel and call everybody locster. straight gafflin these fools

 

[Juven]

Piggie and buffy were west coast stans

They can like the music. It's a free country.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

But when u go back to 88. Those whistles were PE first. Eazy E's song "radio" samples "Rebel without A Pause" which means Dre was influenced by Bomb Squad. So by the time u get to those whistles on "Dope Man" we already know the PE influence is there. These 2 songs were big in hip hop and came before Dopeman. For further proof of how big Rebel Without A Pause was...go back to that Combat Jack episide were he had Chuck D and listen to how passionate Combat Jack gets when describing how "Rebel..." was when it hit the streets.











Add the fact that Cube said out of his owm mouth that F The Police was influenced by Bring The Noise and that they were trying to sound like PE. I'm not gonna even mention EPMDs influence on that west coast sound. Bottom line..the west coast sound was just a remix of the east coast sounds that we abandoned.

you're making 2 separate arguments. Hip Hop started in New York so of course all other area's are going to be influenced by the initial sound and style, but The Chronic changed the game. It separated the west coast from the east.

And NWA/Ice Cube 1988-92 circa sound nothing like what they did for the rest of the 90's.

And Hypnotized sounds similar to



It's just sped up without the whistle

 

[Sccit]

THE FUCC U TALKIN BOUT WE BEEN SAYIN THIS OUT WEST SINCE IT DROPPED LOL

theres nothing west coast influenced about "hypnotize".

THE BASSLINE N DRUMS .. NOT AS BLATANT AS GOIN BACK 2 CALI THO

 

[Sccit]

DAMN NEAR EVERY1 WAS TRYNA SOUND LIKE THE WEST BACK THEN