That Brandy track was done sometime after "Cry Me A River", at least a year. She didn't just "pick" that track up as Timbaland crafted most of that album in the studio with Brandy.
Ryan Tedder has always been a solo producer aside from Tim remixing "Apologize", and "Marching On". Him and Tim also worked together on Chris Cornell's album. I was implying that since Ryan Tedder is one of Tim's artists, he could easily "mooch" off of him if he wanted to.
Britney didn't jump Tim's ship. She turned down working with team JT/Timbo/Danja in 2007 during Tim's run instead opting for just Danja's production and Keri Hilson & The Clutch's writing.
This younger generation also came up as co-producers or use co-producers themselves. Hit-Boy's biggest hit was a song he co-produced with Kanye and co. Mike Will has co-producers and has co-produced for other producers. So does T-Minus, 40, Boi-1da, Lex Luger, and several others.
In all honesty, most of these producers out here now "mooch" off of somebody. They either have co-producers or co-produce with more established producers.
Difference with Ryan Tedder then & now is his relationships have gotten better. Of course when you're up & coming you're not gonna turn down a chance to work with someone with the credentials of a Timbaland & every once in a while you'll still collaborate... how'd that Chris Cornell album turn out anyway?
Also, Tim was hurt when Britney decided to work with Dr. Luke her last album instead of him. Why? Because Dr. Luke was hot... and Tim... wasn't...
Kanye isn't going around taking credit for "NIP" like Tim was for "Cry Me A River"...
There's nothing wrong with Co-Producing... what's wrong is when people don't give proper credit. There's a reason people like Danja, Royal Court, Brian Kidd & even Scott Storch left Timbaland...
The difference is Tim can't find anybody willing right now... he sounds hurt that people don't care about his music like that anymore...
We know how this will play out, he'll complain about the state of music then do nothing to change it. Shock Value 3 will be your typical techno-pop album...
If Timbaland was "mooching", why didn't Ryan Tedder turn him down? How that Cornell album turned out has nothing to do w/ anything?
Kanye is getting more accolades off of NIP than Hit-Boy. Kanye is indeed in fact nominated for producer of the year awards and Hit-Boy isn't. NIP is the biggest song that he or Ye has been a part of recently.
Have you read an album booklet of the material Tim has produced? If not, there goes your argument of them not getting credit. All of those guys were given credit for their work. Some of the credits even broke down exactly what it was that each of them contributed.
Tim being hurt or whatever is all speculation as is whatever SV3 will sound like.
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I'd love to agree with them, but those singles Missy dropped are two bags of garbage.
Thought they were the female jodeciGood point, but I always felt that Xscape was modeled after Mary J Blige. JD admitted this on a Video Soul interview some time back.
And also R.O.C. was his own version of Jay.
"Triple Threat" >>>>>>>>>>>> Anything Nicki has dropped all year
Eh, not everyone who does criticism is upset about something.
he was on 106th & Park talking about how he is bored with the game & is thinking about retiring & looked at the crowd hoping to get some sympathy or some "please don't go" talk & they just sat there like the didn't care...