Tim Duncan has 5 rings why isn’t he ever mentioned in top 5

[Tom Foolery]

I would take MJ, Kareem and Wilt clearly over Duncan. I can't credibly argue that if you were starting a team from scratch, you wouldn't lose anything by taking Duncan over those three.

After that, it's hard to separate people IMO.

Let's leave aside old-timers for a second.

I think Kobe, Duncan, LeBron, Shaq and Hakeem are roughly on the same level. If someone would prefer the others over Duncan to build a team around, I can see that. But if one is being honest and objective, I think it's hard to argue that you would be clearly better off building a team around the others as opposed to Duncan.

You don't even have Magic listed. Magic is arguably the illist B-Ball player all-time.

 

[CarbonBraddock]

wtf does 'mid' mean? yall come up with the lamest little names and titles for shyt nowadays. he isn't mentioned in the top 5 cause he isn't good enough to be mentioned in the top 5. you don't just get 5 rings and automatically be in there and you don't have to have 5 rings to be in there.

 

[Trot LaRoc]

I actually prefer Tim over Hakeem even tho I love Hakeem.

If I'm building a team and I had to build around a PF/C my choice would be :

1. Tim Duncan
2. Hakeem Olajuwon
3. Shaquille ONeal

Hakeem was better in all ways, what was TD better than Dream at?

 

[HabitualChiller]

I would take MJ, Kareem and Wilt clearly over Duncan. I can't credibly argue that if you were starting a team from scratch, you wouldn't lose anything by taking Duncan over those three.

After that, it's hard to separate people IMO.

Let's leave aside old-timers for a second.

I think Kobe, Duncan, LeBron, Shaq and Hakeem are roughly on the same level. If someone would prefer the others over Duncan to build a team around, I can see that. But if one is being honest and objective, I think it's hard to argue that you would be clearly better off building a team around the others as opposed to Duncan.

I don't get your ranking at all. You have Wilt, Kareem, and MJ on the same tier, but then you go on to say that Kobe, LeBron, Shaq and Hakeem are on the same level...how did you even come up with that?

Wilt was a perpetual loser, and LeBron is more dominant than the four guys he's listed with, and had a longer prime, and is statistically better as well. Hell, he's more accomplished than all of them as well.

 

[Controversy]

I mean fair enough, but my counter still stands. PF is a weak position historically and it benefits Tim to be viewed as such rather than as a center...





'07 he finished 4th in MVP votes but wasn't a Top 5 player?

Duncan was still a factor thru 2010 when he was 18/10; after that Parker was the best player and who everything funneled thru (you and I agree on this). Kobe was elite thru 2013. Duncan was elite earlier in his career so when you really add it up Kobe outlasted Duncan in longevity for a net of about 2 years. Nowhere near 7...

I'm just gonna name off the top of my head players that were better than him in 07: Kobe, KG, Dirk, Bron, Hibachi, T-Mac, Bosh, Wade, etc...

Duncan was always a media darling...Kobe finished 3rd in 07 when he was clearly the best player in the league...I don't give any credence to MVP voting

And I stand by my statement, Duncan was no longer elite in 07...his last truly elite season was 04-05

 

[Rigby.]

He faces literally every challenge a basketball player could

- not interesting
- not a very sexy brand of ball
- played with multiple heralded players (which sometimes works in one’s adv, sometimes doesn’t)
- played for a coach who gets more respect than the players, when things are going well
- very boring franchise and market
- played during the same era as prime Los Angeles (as a market), Lakers

I think it was obvious this was how his career was gonna go when he retired the way he did. Manu and TP didn’t get much tears shed for them either. Almost certainly how they would’ve wanted it

 

[KamikazePilot]

Rings are a team accomplishment and his play style is obsolete and stop saying he was the greatest 4 he was a 5

 

[the cool]

wtf does 'mid' mean? yall come up with the lamest little names and titles for shyt nowadays. he isn't mentioned in the top 5 cause he isn't good enough to be mentioned in the top 5. you don't just get 5 rings and automatically be in there and you don't have to have 5 rings to be in there.

 

[etrofllenrod504]

Best power forward I ever seen and I’m 41 years old.

why is it only lebron Jordan Kobe l? I swear basketball discussions are so mid.

Because the big man position isn't the sexy position anymore thanks to Jordan. Now everyone just rates wing players higher. But Duncan was legendary especially in the playoffs.

 

[CarbonBraddock]

i always laugh when people post shyt like this, like all you young mufukkas won't be old and wearin diapers in 5-10 years. it's a stupid phrase like most of yalls stupid phrases.
'cancelled'
'mid'
'such n such is a dog'

the young people today are swagless and lame.

 

[murksiderock]

I'm just gonna name off the top of my head players that were better than him in 07: Kobe, KG, Dirk, Bron, Hibachi, T-Mac, Bosh, Wade, etc...

Duncan was always a media darling...Kobe finished 3rd in 07 when he was clearly the best player in the league...I don't give any credence to MVP voting

And I stand by my statement, Duncan was no longer elite in 07...his last truly elite season was 04-05

KG was missing the postseason yet again in '07, thats a no...

Arenas at no point was ever better than Duncan, stop it lmao...

Mac was not better than Duncan at any point...

Wade missed half the season in '07, cut it out...

Chris Bosh for gotdamn sure was never better at basketball than Duncan...

Bron, Kobe, Dirk, those guys were Top 5 right along with Duncan. No order, but he was in that class...

Your flawed analysis of Duncan coincides with your extreme support of Bean. Duncan and Kobe were two sides of the same coin, together they were about equally as great as the other...

 

[malbaker86]

We got 5 opportunities to see them as superstars face off agains each other in the playoffs...Kobe was 4-1, and 4-2 overall

Kobe owned Duncan and the Spurs. They prevented each other from getting another 2-3 rings. I'll just put it like this, Kobe was more of a thorn in the Spurs side than vice versa.

just acting as if Shaq didnt exist either huh

 

[itsyoung!!]

his play style never felt like he dominated games. Just a very consistent (nothing wrong with that) guy. Going to get you 20 points per game and play good defense. If he pressed the issue and got 1-2 scoring titles he'd probably be viewed higher

like you can VISUALLY see when Curry, Bron or KD is about to just take a game over.. you never really saw that with Duncan

but if you are asking why a guy who averaged 19 points per game overall in his career, in a mostly scoring era, isnt viewed as top 5 then I dont know what to tell you man, offense is viewed higher than defense

 

[Somebody]

Big Fundamental was really unstoppable in the post, but I think its due to the perception of being 'boring'

Fax. Stats and championships are second to the story.

 

[BXKingPin82]

Cause he dressed like he was smacked by a TJ MAXX.