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China has bots on all social media platforms already that manipulate the algorithms. The US is doing psy-ops on it's own citizens. They are not going to shut out foreign countries from running influence campaigns because it would keep them from running the same game on us. The protecting citizens thing is a ridiculous argument.
So if your concern is algorithms, then why target TikTok and leave out Facebook/Twitter/Reddit, which are swarming with foreign bots? Regulation across all social media is one thing, but targeting TikTok alone? It doesn't pass the smell test.

It's crazy to say "not sustainable for a democracy" in defense of something so clearly undemocratic.

There's a difference between bots on a US platform and a foreign company controlling the code base. An ocean of difference.
 
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I see the crazy conspiracy folks have latched onto this now

protecting our data from China is a good enough reason for a sale

image spending so much time advocating doing nothing


also love the caping for a genocidal oppressive Chinese government, vey "progressive" of you guys
What is China doing with our data?
 

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can't be worse than what the U.S government is doing with it especially since they have no arresting powers over us or the ability to connect it to other multiple databases.
This is all fake outrage.

No one even knows what Thecoli is doing to our data

I don’t think anything changes if this bill gets passed
 

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I see the crazy conspiracy folks have latched onto this now

protecting our data from China is a good enough reason for a sale

image spending so much time advocating doing nothing


also love the caping for a genocidal oppressive Chinese government, vey "progressive" of you guys

which government is actively shipping weapons that are currently being used to genocide Palestinians?



if you cared about the abuse of users data you'd oppose this bill and help demand a comprehensive data privacy bill that all companies must abide by. we don't need a censorship law, we need a data privacy law.
 
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Classic "both sides" syndrome. When both sides are not equal.

US based social media platforms have a vested interest in the existence of a US society, while the Chinese government has a vested interest in the collapse of a US society.

Absolutely all social media networks should be regulated but again, you can't regulate a foreign company's intellectual property without their agreeance.
 

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Classic "both sides" syndrome. When both sides are not equal.

US based social media platforms have a vested interest in the existence of a US society, while the Chinese government has a vested interest in the collapse of a US society.

Absolutely all social media networks should be regulated but again, you can't regulate a foreign company's intellectual property without their agreeance.

why stop there? we allow broadcast cable tv and foreign youtube channels too

increasing censorship is the logical conclusion of this yellow peril fear mongering.

 

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why stop there? we allow broadcast cable tv and foreign youtube channels too

increasing censorship is the logical conclusion of this yellow peril fear mongering.


I'm going to be blunt about this, I don't care about the censorship of any FOREIGN entity in America. If you are not an American, the rules don't apply to you.
Tik Tok needs to sell to an American company if they want those protections.

The Communist Chinese are not going to guilt trip us into letting them have this app under the name of 'free speech' when it does not even exist in China.
 
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That's not at all what you're saying if you think the US government is doing this strictly for profit or to solely control the narrative of what Americans see.
It’s absolutely the primary reason. This has nothing to do with protecting data or else they’d nationalize facebook

Did everyone already for get about Cambridge analytics? The United States doesn’t give a shyt about protecting Americans data. They never have
 
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I'm going to be blunt about this, I don't care about the censorship of any FOREIGN entity in America. If you are not an American, the rules don't apply to you.
Tik Tok needs to sell to an American company if they want those protections.

The Communist Chinese are not going to guilt trip us into letting them have this app under the name of 'free speech' when it does not even exist in China.
It actually does exist in China. It’s called Douyin, and it’s heavily censored by the Chinese government unlike tik tok
 

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It’s an absolutely the primary reason. This has nothing to do with protecting data or else they’d nationalize facebook

Did everyone already for get about Cambridge analytics? The United States doesn’t give a shyt about protecting Americans data. They never have
But I can to vote out a government fukking with my data. Can I vote out the CCP?
 
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But I can to vote out a government fukking with my data. Can I vote out the CCP?

Y'all still think this is about data? The US government has shown time and time again it doesn't care about protecting your data from companies American or otherwise.

This is the American government once again working at the behest of capital (so they can buy tik tok) and Nat Sec (So they can spy on your). Aint got shyt to do with your data.

Think of all the data breaches where companies straight up broke the law and just got some slap on the wrist fine like Equifax. All they had to do was pay a fine. No one was fired, no one was arrested, the company wasn't forced to be sold. It was just a fine and everything is good now. My brother the US government doesn't give a flying fukk about protecting our data and would never ever go this far to protect your data when American companies break the law

Mark Zuckerberg should've been forced to sell facebook after Cambridge Analytica, where they made billions selling Americans data... YET NOTHING fukkING HAPPENED :mjlol: That shyt literally helped swing an American election that had widespread ramifications to the country and made this place a worse country to live in and nothing happened. The math is no mathing here
 
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I'm going to be blunt about this, I don't care about the censorship of any FOREIGN entity in America. If you are not an American, the rules don't apply to you.
Tik Tok needs to sell to an American company if they want those protections.

The Communist Chinese are not going to guilt trip us into letting them have this app under the name of 'free speech' when it does not even exist in China.

the constitution is a restriction on government powers not citizens. so the government is absolutely restricted to what it can do to anyone no matter their nationality. your interpretation of government powers is very dangerous. tiktok operates no differently than facebook or instagram does in other foreign countries. it's literally using an american business model.
 
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