Tical 2000 was the closest to a 5 star meth album we had

[Black Hans]

If you take out those stupid skits or whatever those tracks were, yeah I agree. It would be his best album. That's why I got rid of those stupid tracks when I switched to MP3

 

[Bugzbunny129]

Nah I fukked with 421 heavy, it was a great album but to me tical 2000 was a everything a method album should have been.

another fine album with a slew of songs cut from it. Even tical 0 has its cut tracks and moments.

 

[nieman]

The album is all over the place. I didn't even know people like Judgement Day, because that was considered one of the worse tracks on there. It's too glossy. Even the skits - this is Meth attempting to do a Reggie album.

Retro Godfather is a horrible Meth track. Ghost, Rae or MK it would be fine for, but not Meth. Dangerous Ground, Suspect Chin Music, Snuffed Out, Grid Iron Rap is like the same song 4x. You only need 2 of them. Same thing for Shaolin What and Torture...back to back. Cut one of them. Cut everything after Killing Fields. The rest of the songs are good but horrible sequencing. Albums are meant to flow, especially Wu albums. The intro can go too.

Granted, the landscape was changing but Meth is one that never truly found his voice as a soloist. T2 was him trying to stick to his formula and cater to the sound of that time.

And then 4 years later he drops Tical 0.

 

[Peabo Bryson]

HORRIBLE analysis. 1-2 joints is straight hyperbole, analyze and shyt on everything, typical coli nonsense. 2 joints. Gtfoh lmao. Theres atleast 10 4/5 star joints at the very least. I guess you only listen to 5 mic rap or nothing.

Also the opposite of rose colored glasses. 98 was fine. Multi classics that year. Multi Wu classics even.

Horrible analysis? fukk no. Dangerous Grounds and Big Dogs the only 2 songs I can listen to. If I really had to stretch it, maybe Spazzola? The album is triddash. Big facts.

 

[Bugzbunny129]

Horrible analysis? fukk no. Dangerous Grounds and Big Dogs the only 2 songs I can listen to. If I really had to stretch it, maybe Spazzola? The album is triddash. Big facts.

Spazzola and big dogs are 2 of the weakest song on the album. Spazzola beat is bland and dont even fit thematically with the tical theme and neither does big dogs. People like you are the proboem…alneither good enough to be on TICAL 2 yet the rest is trash. Lol.

Shoulda been on uncontrolled where it woulda meant mroe since no wu features there and it fits sonically. Instead we get 2 half ass beats in that and the hav track.

I cant take you seriously for dismissing killing fields, torture and shaolin what. You wan diss judgment day and retro thats cool they aint for everyone even if they are straight COPIES of existing method man songs (so dont get other guy saying meth shouodnt have rapped on it. Shouod meth have rapped on release ya delf/remix???)

Your not a real method man fan shytting on them for BIG DOGS… shoulda stayed on blackout. Id trade it for run 4 cover or fire in the hole in a heartbeat. Rather listen to fred durst rap on n2gether now if its TICAL. least that beat is tical esque.

Literally whole album is a copy of og in diff ways. Just off top.

Shaolin what / tical
Perfect world / biscuits
Dangerous ground / bring da pain
Sweet love / all i need
Torture / what the blood clot
SUPA NINJAZ / sub crazy
Suspect chin/ meth vs chef
Retro godfather / releasebya delf
Grid iron rap / plo style
Cradle rock / i get my thang in action
RUN 4 COVER / mr sandman
Killing fields / stimulation
Jusgment day / method man remix

Like i said, its literally a 5-6 track swing from being a classic. If wu focused in and just gve all the tracks to meth itd be just as great as og. Instead all that shyt got split into 3 albums and they made buncha commercial tracks to cover the fact.

Just another album massacred by studio execs and politics

 

[KingSol81]

Its interesting to think that Tical 3 (which ended becoming Tical 0 was first advertised to drop December 19th 2000, I dont think that shyt came out till like 2004

 

[Peabo Bryson]

Spazzola and big dogs are 2 of the weakest song on the album. Spazzola beat is bland and dont even fit thematically with the tical theme and neither does big dogs. People like you are the proboem…alneither good enough to be on TICAL 2 yet the rest is trash. Lol.

Shoulda been on uncontrolled where it woulda meant mroe since no wu features there and it fits sonically. Instead we get 2 half ass beats in that and the hav track.

I cant take you seriously for dismissing killing fields, torture and shaolin what. You wan diss judgment day and retro thats cool they aint for everyone even if they are straight COPIES of existing method man songs (so dont get other guy saying meth shouodnt have rapped on it. Shouod meth have rapped on release ya delf/remix???)

Your not a real method man fan shytting on them for BIG DOGS… shoulda stayed on blackout. Id trade it for run 4 cover or fire in the hole in a heartbeat. Rather listen to fred durst rap on n2gether now if its TICAL. least that beat is tical esque.

Man nobody tryin to hear all that, give a fukk if Big Dogs didn't have the "Wu sound", it was one of the few listenable tracks on that drink coaster CD. LOL at "Tical-esque". shyt was over by '98. That sound and feel was gone. Had to make the best of what was changing in the climate. I don't know anybody from my era that was fukkin with Tical 2000. I'm talkin heads that were 13-18 when 36 Chambers dropped... We were all sad as hell when we heard Judgement Day and then peeped the album? Pffftttt... it was basically instant dumpster juice my nikka. Folks my age didn't rock with none of those later Wu albums until Supreme Clientele. Just think of how DRASTIC the difference is between T2000 and SC... It's like night and day. T2000 was a BAD album, SC was a GOOD album. No other way to slice it. And really, when I think about it... the original Tical was the weakest of the early Wu solos.. Raekwon, ODB, GZA, Ironman.. all shytted on Tical.

 

[TripleAgent]

This wasn't as good as Tical, with or without the skits. We waited 4 years for this album and it was a step below Tical. It wasn't garbage though. it was decent

Tical had advantage due to all RZA production, but Meth rapped better on T2.

I remember the day I bought this. I was mad as a mf. Because it wasn't what I thought it would be. First of all, I had to pay my man at the Powerzone $5 to hold me copy because I knew they weren't going to get in more than 15-20. So on top of what I spent for it, I paid an addition $5 and when I listened to it, it just wasn't what I expected. That disco joint was terrible. Break ups 2 make ups was out of place.. Retro Godfather and Judgement Day are two of Meth's worst songs ever. The album was just all over the place. But we can't forget that Deck supplied meth with a beat that Kanye would use the same sample years later for slum Village.

I felt the exact same. And I agree, Judgement Day is trash for Meth. Cradle Rock would've been a great lead off single...Meth, Left Eye..a dark sounding track. I don't like Big Dogs either. Sounds like it was made for Blackout. And why the hell wasn't Killing Fields the last song? That's how The Warriors ended

You two are drunk. Judgment Day is fire. The only knock was he used the same verse twice.

Terrible album. Maybe 1 or 2 joints on it. Anyone who thinks this was a classic or his best album was definitely a young kid when it came out, like middle school days when you were in your own "golden age" of hip hop for your time. Maybe I'm flabby and sick but I'm proud to have been in high school when Wu-Tang 'Enter The 36' and the original 'Tical' dropped.

In retrospect, 1998 was a year when the game started getting wack.. Production started getting into the cheap sounding Casio keyboard phase and producers/labels stopped using samples for the sake of more $$$. That garbaggio Swizz shyt. No Limit was flooding the market with horrible albums, which also were recorded and mixed poorly. It was the beginning of the end. There was still some dope shyt in 98, like Big Pun's debut, Pete Rock 'Soul Survivor', Gang Starr 'Moment of Truth', Onyx 'Shut Em Down'.... Down south heads would consider Juve's '400 Degreez', Scarface 'My Homies', and some No Limit albums as classics that year... but overall you could sense the shift.

If you wasn't a real head from them '88 to '96 years then you wouldn't understand.

The album is very good, it just wasn't focused and properly edited. I'm sure Def Jam is partially to blame as they sawhim as the "star" of Wu-Tang and wouldn't put out an album in the vein of Cradle Rock, which would have been insane.

 

[Frump]

My favorite Meth album. A lot of songs but not much filler

You can’t compare the production to earlier WU it’s unfair. 98 the game was completely different as was the sound

The sampling laws hurt RZA and the Wu sound and it’s why the second round of WU albums weren’t as good

 

[Art Barr]

Nah I fukked with 421 heavy, it was a great album but to me tical 2000 was a everything a method album should have been.

Review both albums then.
As this discussion thread is a cover up.
Used ss deflection because you have not reviewed shyt of note ever.

So grt to reviewing.


I reviewed 421 in real time.

That is how I know this thread is nuffin but noob toy cover up.


This whole fake flaug act like you all googlesed't some shyt in hiphop is a lie.

All uv youse think you can use it to fool people in the know. When people experienced in the way and know. Can easily tell you are all flaug'n face ass royal when it comes to hiphop. Do not be mad. Most of the world including your parents are toys.

That is how and why so many villains are being sent through the ringer now. Stop believe'n all these big Willie fake jiggy wannabe playa-listic voices. They all big Willie the wack the unoriginal.

Plus some supposed tough guys.

Yet not tiugj enough to rhyme nowhere before they pillar. Fake Malcolm x and act like they righteous after being a failure at crime. Who again. .is so tough but scared to go rhyme somewhere and show and prove. It is all fake jiffy soul lacking shyt with y'all


Who raised you.

Who cares.
Just do better to be better

As this thread idea was wack.
.till you review a fukk'n record and showcase you sre not a wack toy
.that goes f'ah all uv youse's.




Art Barr

 

[No Homo]

I always liked this album ..its his best to me.

I remember people being disappointed with the Judgement day single and I think that carried over into the dislike for the album.

 

[En Sabah Nur]

Terrible album. Maybe 1 or 2 joints on it. Anyone who thinks this was a classic or his best album was definitely a young kid when it came out, like middle school days when you were in your own "golden age" of hip hop for your time. Maybe I'm flabby and sick but I'm proud to have been in high school when Wu-Tang 'Enter The 36' and the original 'Tical' dropped.

In retrospect, 1998 was a year when the game started getting wack.. Production started getting into the cheap sounding Casio keyboard phase and producers/labels stopped using samples for the sake of more $$$. That garbaggio Swizz shyt. No Limit was flooding the market with horrible albums, which also were recorded and mixed poorly. It was the beginning of the end. There was still some dope shyt in 98, like Big Pun's debut, Pete Rock 'Soul Survivor', Gang Starr 'Moment of Truth', Onyx 'Shut Em Down'.... Down south heads would consider Juve's '400 Degreez', Scarface 'My Homies', and some No Limit albums as classics that year... but overall you could sense the shift.

If you wasn't a real head from them '88 to '96 years then you wouldn't understand.

Worst take on the album I've ever seen. Plenty considered it a disappointment at worst, but ain't nobody ever say there was only 2 good songs on the album when it dropped

*edit* and you think Big Dogs is one of the two good songs? That sounded like an El Nino throwaway

 

[Peabo Bryson]

It is what it is. Big Dogs was bumpable. Who cares that it didn't match the "sound"... It was better than all those wanna-be gRiMy boring beats. Dudes in here trying to say "b-b-b-but those beats are TiCaL-eSqUe"... It was OVER. 1998 began the cheapening of hip hop. This album wasn't it. As I said, it wasn't until Supreme Clientele that a Wu album came that truly captured the sound / essence of what a Wu album should sound like. T2000 was a clusterfukk of trash.

 

[Danie84]

Tical 2000 got the illest Hip-Hop soundscapes that sounds better now than it did back then

 

[Bugzbunny129]

It is what it is. Big Dogs was bumpable. Who cares that it didn't match the "sound"... It was better than all those wanna-be gRiMy boring beats. Dudes in here trying to say "b-b-b-but those beats are TiCaL-eSqUe"... It was OVER. 1998 began the cheapening of hip hop. This album wasn't it. As I said, it wasn't until Supreme Clientele that a Wu album came that truly captured the sound / essence of what a Wu album should sound like. T2000 was a clusterfukk of trash.

Man nobody tryin to hear all that, give a fukk if Big Dogs didn't have the "Wu sound", it was one of the few listenable tracks on that drink coaster CD. LOL at "Tical-esque". shyt was over by '98. That sound and feel was gone. Had to make the best of what was changing in the climate. I don't know anybody from my era that was fukkin with Tical 2000. I'm talkin heads that were 13-18 when 36 Chambers dropped... We were all sad as hell when we heard Judgement Day and then peeped the album? Pffftttt... it was basically instant dumpster juice my nikka. Folks my age didn't rock with none of those later Wu albums until Supreme Clientele. Just think of how DRASTIC the difference is between T2000 and SC... It's like night and day. T2000 was a BAD album, SC was a GOOD album. No other way to slice it. And really, when I think about it... the original Tical was the weakest of the early Wu solos.. Raekwon, ODB, GZA, Ironman.. all shytted on Tical.

Bro your opinion is TRASH

Typical coli answer when every hing you said has been refuted. I overload you and you all shutdown. shyts hilarious.

Now SC IS just a “good album”

fukk off this forum

Now big dogs, ya “fav song” on album is just “bumpable” because everyone said it was a throwaway

Your posts have trash reasonings.

No conviction

2 dope songs on a legit 4 mic album ha

Spazzola and big dogs straight fukking throwaways

Call ot what you want. Cheapening whatever. Album literally was tical TWO

Sooo… it SHOULD.. sound… like. Tical

The ones that did are fine. You talking about cheapening of hip hop and then picking the 2 cheapest sounding songs as ya favs tells me ya reaching for straws wnd making shyt up.

Now shytting on tival. Tical sold more than everh first wu solo. it wasnt until everyone dropped and dust settled did anyone ever say those words. Tical was easily the most popular wu solo by a lot when i was a kid so gtfoh with all that. People moved on cause they trend hoppers and you among them.

Your top 10 is prolly trash as well.