Tical 2000 was the closest to a 5 star meth album we had

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Wu Tang: Amedican Saga made me go back & give Tical another spin & I can appreciate it more now, buuuut T2 was a banger, to me.

I think I was the only one in my circle that had it on repeat. Yea a few skits were a lil too long but I still love this album.

And I still tell my homies TO THIS DAY when it comes to women, “you gotta do it to her mind maaaaane!”
 

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I remember the day I bought this. I was mad as a mf. Because it wasn't what I thought it would be. First of all, I had to pay my man at the Powerzone $5 to hold me copy because I knew they weren't going to get in more than 15-20. So on top of what I spent for it, I paid an addition $5 and when I listened to it, it just wasn't what I expected. That disco joint was terrible. Break ups 2 make ups was out of place.. Retro Godfather and Judgement Day are two of Meth's worst songs ever. The album was just all over the place. But we can't forget that Deck supplied meth with a beat that Kanye would use the same sample years later for slum Village.
 

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I remember the day I bought this. I was mad as a mf. Because it wasn't what I thought it would be. First of all, I had to pay my man at the Powerzone $5 to hold me copy because I knew they weren't going to get in more than 15-20. So on top of what I spent for it, I paid an addition $5 and when I listened to it, it just wasn't what I expected. That disco joint was terrible. Break ups 2 make ups was out of place.. Retro Godfather and Judgement Day are two of Meth's worst songs ever. The album was just all over the place. But we can't forget that Deck supplied meth with a beat that Kanye would use the same sample years later for slum Village.
Love both judgment day and retro godfather


Judgment day is obv meth tryna take advantage of the release ya delf remix energy with the electronic genre change as meth was super popular in the techno/electronic genres. All those artists remixed all his shyt versus all other hip hop artists.
 

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I remember the day I bought this. I was mad as a mf. Because it wasn't what I thought it would be. First of all, I had to pay my man at the Powerzone $5 to hold me copy because I knew they weren't going to get in more than 15-20. So on top of what I spent for it, I paid an addition $5 and when I listened to it, it just wasn't what I expected. That disco joint was terrible. Break ups 2 make ups was out of place.. Retro Godfather and Judgement Day are two of Meth's worst songs ever. The album was just all over the place. But we can't forget that Deck supplied meth with a beat that Kanye would use the same sample years later for slum Village.
I felt the exact same. And I agree, Judgement Day is trash for Meth. Cradle Rock would've been a great lead off single...Meth, Left Eye..a dark sounding track. I don't like Big Dogs either. Sounds like it was made for Blackout. And why the hell wasn't Killing Fields the last song? That's how The Warriors ended
 

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Judgement Day was Meth & 4th doing a Planet Rock style updated old school throwback. It's meant to be it's own thing.

And agree that strip it down to just the songs and it's a great album.

And calling Shaolin What a "skit" is blasphemy. Should have been a 6 min long posse cut over those ill pianos.

 

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In fact if you just removed the skits and 2/3 filler tracks it's an absolute classic imo.

It was like a mix between prime Wu and prime Mobb Deep production. It was super clean, super dark and meth was spitting flames.

Im surprised this don't get as much credit as it should.

The Donald trump skit made me reminisce too... Back when man's weren't programmed to think about people on some status quo shyt... He was a NY donny that made money and didn't give a fukk so they aligned with him.

I was with you until the high-key Trump dikksucking.

But yea, remove the skits and a couple tracks and it's a superior album.

"Me and mine at the door, ain't tryna pay a fee, stop playing...you're fukking with me, we push our way in..."
 

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Love both judgment day and retro godfather


Judgment day is obv meth tryna take advantage of the release ya delf remix energy with the electronic genre change as meth was super popular in the techno/electronic genres. All those artists remixed all his shyt versus all other hip hop artists.

Judgement day was the reason I bought the album.
 

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In fact if you just removed the skits and 2/3 filler tracks it's an absolute classic imo.

It was like a mix between prime Wu and prime Mobb Deep production. It was super clean, super dark and meth was spitting flames.

Im surprised this don't get as much credit as it should.

The Donald trump skit made me reminisce too... Back when man's weren't programmed to think about people on some status quo shyt... He was a NY donny that made money and didn't give a fukk so they aligned with him.
You spit the gospel up until that Trump bullshyt.


Ruined a good post trying to side step into politics like a casual. People were not programmed. Up until that fakkit ran for president he was just a reflection of wealth and prosperity nobody had to care about his social views or take objection to them. Nobody "aligned" with him. He was just a popular name drop for the same reason Bill Gates was in popular culture. They had money. You could have just kept to music...
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You spit the gospel up until that Trump bullshyt.


Ruined a good post trying to side step into politics like a casual. People were not programmed. Up until that fakkit ran for president he was just a reflection of wealth and prosperity nobody had to care about his social views or take objection to them. Nobody "aligned" with him. He was just a popular name drop for the same reason Bill Gates was in popular culture. They hade money. You could have just kept to music...
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"You rollin' like Trump? You get your meat lumped."- Raekwon



It meant if you were flashing cash back then; it's an anthem against a hate-cult leader's collective now.
 
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Time has been kind to this album

it was a let down in real time among Wu heads/Hip Hop but it had some joints on it.

just one too many skits

and you gotta remember, the album was highly anticipated after all of the Wu's success and Tical (even tho Tical is often criticized)

even though it was years later after the Wu's popularity had long waned, Meth dropped Tical The Prequel. that album is so bad, NOBODY talks about it.

i remember when that shyt leaked online and different forums thought he was trolling because the album was so bad.
 

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Terrible album. Maybe 1 or 2 joints on it. Anyone who thinks this was a classic or his best album was definitely a young kid when it came out, like middle school days when you were in your own "golden age" of hip hop for your time. Maybe I'm flabby and sick but I'm proud to have been in high school when Wu-Tang 'Enter The 36' and the original 'Tical' dropped.

In retrospect, 1998 was a year when the game started getting wack.. Production started getting into the cheap sounding Casio keyboard phase and producers/labels stopped using samples for the sake of more $$$. That garbaggio Swizz shyt. No Limit was flooding the market with horrible albums, which also were recorded and mixed poorly. It was the beginning of the end. There was still some dope shyt in 98, like Big Pun's debut, Pete Rock 'Soul Survivor', Gang Starr 'Moment of Truth', Onyx 'Shut Em Down'.... Down south heads would consider Juve's '400 Degreez', Scarface 'My Homies', and some No Limit albums as classics that year... but overall you could sense the shift.

If you wasn't a real head from them '88 to '96 years then you wouldn't understand.
 
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