Tia Mowry can pinpoint the exact moment she knew her marriage was over "its about self love "

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Bro you my guy but you sound crazy right now and it sounds like you have no experience with women (which im sure can't be true).

Do you know how hard it is to make a woman happy? Women's emotions change with the wind. If you're basing ANYTHING on the state of their happiness which can be up and down at any moment, then you will be ass out in the cold looking like a fool because you will have no stability at all.

What the brother above is trying to get you to see is that if everybody leaves a relationship because they're unhappy, NONE OF US WOULD BE IN RELATIONSHIPS. Everybody has the feeling of unhappiness at times, even lingering unhappiness.

But the whole point of marriage vows is that you're vowing to stay, yes, even during the times of unhappiness.

Unless something major happens, that's a commitment that you made.

Basing commitment on fleeting feelings of happiness is ignorant. Especially for women, whose feelings are often more fleeting than stable.

I don't think it's a man's responsibility to make women happy, I don't even think it's possible to make someone happy.

I agree that we all have moments of unhappiness, it's one of the reasons I decided to give therapy a try. If that unhappiness can not be overcome then staying in a failed relationship doesn't benefit anyone.

There's no shortage of people that have been miserable in their relationships for years and feel trapped, do you think those people should just stick it out because they made a commitment to do so? I don't think so. In reality, many people aren't leaving because they can't afford to which leads to them having to escape the relationship in other ways, including but not limited to infidelity on the extreme end of the spectrum.

She was married to him for 10+ years before deciding to leave, it's kinda unfair to attribute her exit to "fleeting feelings", it's more likely that those feelings of unhappiness were persistent.

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Let’s be honest and it dawned on from a chick I listened to on YouTube. It’s profound. Marriage is a man’s concept. A burden that woman didn’t have a say in. Even if you guys go the biblical route on me, God created marriage and made a woman for a man. He didn’t ask her if she wanted to be with him for the rest of her days.

This is the curse that women suffer given to them in Genesis. They don’t desire men, but they desire to rule over men and are mad because they don’t have the might to rule men, so they rule men by using a plethora of weak men/Agressive mentally weak men/dumbmen to act on their behalf.

That’s why they divorce at over 70% and make the claim the problem is with men, but the only problem is men letting women have any authority to begin with. Women can never rule, because they are more prone to evil than men and they are attracted to it as well. Why do you think they love the occult so much?

Just because a women will tell a brute to stop beating a nerd, doesn’t mean women are good. They will still get with that brute and deep down they enjoyed seeing the nerd get beat. Why would a “good girl” lay with a bad man, knowingly? Like gang bangers/drug dealers. We see it all the time. They will use the brute if they can, to work on their behalf. If a woman doesn’t fear The Most High or isn’t sheltered/square in some way, wickedness will come. Women might be “nice” but they have no honor.
 

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She needs to be ignored by all black men, she left a good dude because she was unhappy, just like the ignore button is used on here, it should be a real ignore button among black men, all good black men.

She needs to be left alone and left to be happy by herself.

You're not claiming it but you're pushing it as an out instead of pushing the vows that she spoke. She's a home wrecker. She destroyed and left her marriage.
This is why black women can't find dudes, good dudes, to stick around for the long term, women happy on Monday and could be unhappy Monday night because of what?? the change of the wind. Men, black men are not putting up with the nonsense and that's why you see why dating is in shambles. Men will smash, have fun for 2-6 months, dismiss and repeat the cycle with the next chick, leaving that chick scarred, because he, the man doesn't want to be left//hurt because a chick decided she wasn't happy anymore.

This incident is only hurting black women in the long run, it's downright sad, this shyt isn't empowering as she may think it is. Just goofy

Maybe people need to make better vows because "for better or worse" isn't a condition people would agree to in literally any other context.

She left a relationship because she was unhappy in the relationship. Does one party in a 2 party relationship being unhappy lead to good outcomes in your opinion? She stayed with him for over a decade and folk are in here acting like she woke up one day randomly unhappy and called it quits.
 
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I don't think it's a man's responsibility to make women happy, I don't even think it's possible to make someone happy.

I agree that we all have moments of unhappiness, it's one of the reasons I decided to give therapy a try. If that unhappiness can not be overcome then staying in a failed relationship doesn't benefit anyone.

There's no shortage of people that have been miserable in their relationships for years and feel trapped, do you think those people should just stick it out because they made a commitment to do so? I don't think so. In reality, many people aren't leaving because they can't afford to which leads to them having to escape the relationship in other ways, including but not limited to infidelity on the extreme end of the spectrum.

She was married to him for 10+ years before deciding to leave, it's kinda unfair to attribute her exit to "fleeting feelings", it's more likely that those feelings of unhappiness were persistent.

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Bro you just said it's not the man's job to make a woman happy. Then you turn around and say that she shouldn't stay in a relationship if she's unhappy.

Have you ever stopped to consider that it's her that's the problem?

If a man is doing everything he's supposed to do, everything he vowed to do, everything he promised that he would do... and she's still unhappy, then guess what? That's on her, not him, not the relationship.

She sounds like a terrible human being. And she's thinking the problem is everyone and everything else when the problem is really her.

Maybe instead of looking at her husband as an elective course, she should have focused that energy inward and instead focused on fixing the broken things about herself.

If you break up a relationship and can't say why, then yes, you should stay. She can't even clearly say what the problem was. "Self love" isn't a reason. What's stopping you from loving yourself while being married?
 

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Bro you just said it's not the man's job to make a woman happy. Then you turn around and say that she shouldn't stay in a relationship if she's unhappy.

Have you ever stopped to consider that it's her that's the problem?

If a man is doing everything he's supposed to do, everything he vowed to do, everything he promised that he would do... and she's still unhappy, then guess what? That's on her, not him, not the relationship.

She sounds like a terrible human being. And she's thinking the problem is everyone and everything else when the problem is really her.

Maybe instead of looking at her husband as an elective course, she should have focused that energy inward and instead focused on fixing the broken things about herself.

If you break up a relationship and can't say why, then yes, you should stay. She can't even clearly say what the problem was. "Self love" isn't a reason. What's stopping you from loving yourself while being married?

I'm literally suggesting that she's responsible for her happiness.
 

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Maybe people need to make better vows because "for better or worse" isn't a condition people would agree to in literally any other context.

She left a relationship because she was unhappy in the relationship. Does one party in a 2 party relationship being unhappy lead to good outcomes in your opinion? She stayed with him for over a decade and folk are in here acting like she woke up one day randomly unhappy and called it quits.

I'm sure the husband had unhappy days. If the child is unhappy with his mom, does the child get to leave? or if the mother is unhappy with the child or teenager, should that mother abandon that child? and if that mother/father does that, what would you call them (Terrible people, most would think they are the worse human beings on earth for leaving because they are unhappy with their child? Would you praise that parent?? like you're doing with the wife?? I mean that parent is unhappy
 

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@Matt504 who can see that hip hop is a problem in our community (which i agree with) but can't fathom what broken homes are doing to our community. That one track vision :wow:

This is false, I can see perfectly clear what broken homes do to our community. The difference here is that you can't fathom that a home can be broken even if both parents are still living under the same roof.

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I'm sure the husband had unhappy days. If the child is unhappy with his mom, does the child get to leave? or if the mother is unhappy with the child or teenager, should that mother abandon that child? and if that mother/father does that, what would you call her? Would you praise that parent?? like you're doing with the wife?? I mean that parent is unhappy

Again, they were together for 10 years, I'm sure both parties had unhappy days. This does not seem to be the result of "fleeting feelings" but rather something that was chronic.
 

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I'm not suggesting that she reneged to have fun and neither did she. If people are in a relationship and they aren't happy in said relationship, the entire house will be miserable which will also have a negative impact on the benefits of being in a nuclear family.

I'm of the opinion that people should get therapy BEFORE marriage so they can make a more honest assessment of whether or not marriage is for them. Tia went to therapy while she was already married and reached the conclusion that parting ways with her husband was the best path forward. The alternative was to languish in an unhappy marriage.

I'm pro marriage and I am also pro therapy. I'm in CBT once a week and it's honestly one of the best decisions I've made in my entire life.

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Breh we all see the types of suggestive IG posts Tia been posting recently. We not dumb, I know what kinda happiness she trying to graduate to :beli:

Im happy that CBT has been beneficial for you, im glad to hear that...real shyt.
 

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Unless he mistreated her, which I don’t know. Unless that which is the only good reason… she is a fukking selfish idiot. And delusional..Been happily married 10 years now with children and if it ended it’s a failure. Don’t have to call it a waste of time, but If your marriage ends it is a failure. The outgrowing excuse is bullshyt because you are both already individuals with differences in personalities to a point. You can express yourself without doing shyt for the opposite sex attention like being “sexy for social media” . And you should have good balanced loyal friends for another outlet. No other way to look at it. And the kids suffer and don’t want step families or going back and forth for holidays l, weekends or whatnot. People always try to lie and act like they kids are cool with it and still happy which is bullshyt
You watch the video and she talks about marriage being a "curriculum" and "graduation", that just means she checked it off on her list.. She just wanted a man for a wedding check, nice family photos check, kids check, ok now I can leave and "graduate".. Many women dont really want to be in a marriage they just want the wedding and then check it off and bounce, this is just a dog whistle that she completed that.

The new studies in this decade are going to rock the mental models that most people have, when you look at them women feel stifled by long term relationships, women cheat more, women get cash/prizes when they divorce so they are incentivized, they get the kids or atleast first right of refusal in higher percentage, now a days with social media they get validation/support, etc. Men still playing with old playbook and the game has completely changed.

Science is finding that women struggle more than men when it comes to staying faithful in relationships.


“Even when your marriage is good, you still miss that rush of feeling so excited you can’t eat or sleep when you’re having such an intense time emotionally and sexually with a new person. That’s what I kept going after, and what I couldn’t say no to.”

The view that it’s mostly men who cheat because their partners lose interest in sex is outdated. Science says that it’s actually women who struggle more with monogamy because they get bored in the bedroom. Women crave sexual variety and while some stifle their desire, others will be unfaithful.


Wednesday Martin, an anthropologist and author of “Untrue,” refers to this new research as “the great correction.” Martin interviewed dozens of sociologists, sex researchers and anthropologists for her book on female infidelity and says the sad, sorry picture painted of the female libido is grossly wrong. It is alive and kicking — and eager to be satisfied.


“The new research is correcting false notions that women have lesser libidos, that women are more naturally monogamous and that it’s easier for women to partner for life,” explains Martin. “Women don’t like sex less [than men] — but they do get bored of sexual sameness.”


 

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I also find it very fascinating that people are assuming the husband was cool with all of this based off what she said.

For all we know, he could've been one of those happy wife happy life type guys and he got this shyt dropped on him
 
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