This next Thor movie gonna be the last one I watch in theaters

[Jazzy B.]

They should have Fast Tracked X-Men post Endgame.

It should have all been building up to a New Avengers vs X-Men storyline and crossover storyline movie.

The MCU has ALWAYS been about the crossover element NOT standalones.

Not this throwing any idea at the wall and hoping it sticks stuff.

That’s why the DCEU and the Fox movies were all over the damn place.

You look at the upcoming movies, it’s all disjointed and there ain’t a damn reason to be interested like before. It’s no longer must see.

I’m out on the movies in theaters until X-Men, Doc Strange 3 and Mackie’s Captain America 4 (provided there’s commentary on White America’s response to a black Captain America) or if they give the Russos a bag to come back.

 

[Still Benefited]

There is a bit of MCU fatigue I see folks online and folks in the real world speak of sometimes. I think it’s just frontin but who knows.

That means they did their job. They built up to a crazy climax for 20 years. That essentially was "the end".

People wont be as interested again until they can see the picture coming together .Of what and who the mcu is building up to as the next finale.

For now they need to quit playing and give us Xmen.

Robert Downey aint around anymore to carry these films through mediocre moments. They need to find their next Robert Downey quick. I think Tom Cruise will be that guy to fill the void, unless those were rumors. Should have been Christian Bale but i guess he wanted a one time deal.

 

[Rekkapryde]

There is a bit of MCU fatigue I see folks online and folks in the real world speak of sometimes. I think it’s just frontin but who knows.

they do need to mix in some different tones. I like what they did in Dr Strange 2, but even in that they still had to have some goofiness.

The Netflix joints had a good tone to them, hopefully they adopt that in some of their future projects.

Their best 3 movies imo had more serious tones with some but not a lot of lightheartedness - Winter Soldier, Infinity War (minus that goofy Drax scene), and BP.


We need the X-Men and Doom IMO

 

[calh45]

I don’t need the ante to keep being upped, the stakes being too high was my problem with IW and Endgame. Also just because they want me to feel some type of way doesn’t mean they’re 1. Doing a good job of it, or 2. It was the feeling I was looking for, or 3. Was objectively a good decision in the first place

Some of these shows make the product feel watered down and cheap, and if it takes me out of the experience that’s ultimately a bad thing. The shows lesson my excitement for a lot of these movies, and that sucks

My problem is they've changed the entire story structure of their movie products to force you to watch Disney+

The Strange movie low key doesn't make sense if you haven't watched Wandavision. Her entire attachment to her children doesn't make sense if you've never seen that show. The same can be said for the level up of her powers.

They've conditioned their fans that they need to watch EVERYTHING and their fans online have turned into Star Wars level defenders of their product. They keep pointing to box office numbers and Rotten Tomato scores without any fail meanwhile their loyalty is why Disney can put out dreck. The Ant Man movie in phase one had more effort and thought behind it than any of these Disney only produced phase two movies. Only Spiderman NWH has been good and that was a co-produced joint.

 

[beenz]

This second phase of marvel just ain’t it anymore. Maybe cuz it’s been 12 years of the same shyt and getting tired of it. Anyone else feel this way

you will be back. I didn't go to the theatre for the likes of shang chi or black widow, but I did go see the last spider man and dr strange. I'll still be going to see all the major movies. not the spinoffs so much.

 

[Legal]

Marvel deciding to do a soft reset with multiple origin movies and have 3 different Thanos level storylines at once is definitely the biggest issue.

I think they find their footing eventually. Marvel is going off in to many directions at once. Can we just focus on Kang, pls.

Yeah, we're in a period of wheel spinning until Ant-Man, probably.

I'm thinking Feige was lying his ass off when he said there's no overarching storyline currently. You don't borrow from Jonathan Hickman storylines for no reason.

 

[KingJay]

My problem is they've changed the entire story structure of their movie products to force you to watch Disney+

The Strange movie low key doesn't make sense if you haven't watched Wandavision. Her entire attachment to her children doesn't make sense if you've never seen that show. The same can be said for the level up of her powers.

They've conditioned their fans that they need to watch EVERYTHING and their fans online have turned into Star Wars level defenders of their product. They keep pointing to box office numbers and Rotten Tomato scores without any fail meanwhile their loyalty is why Disney can put out dreck. The Ant Man movie in phase one had more effort and thought behind it than any of these Disney only produced phase two movies. Only Spiderman NWH has been good and that was a co-produced joint.

I agree. I hate the need to watch these TV shows. I think TV is a cool place to flesh out side stories or additional character bits, but it should not be a place where essential material is conveyed. TV should be like the side missions in a video game. It’s nice extra content, but you don’t need to do it for the main story at all

 

[Rekkapryde]

Said it before, I'm finna get something outta Disney+, and that's me waiting for these shyts to drop on there.

Get the Package with D+, ESPN, and Hulu for free with my AMEX Platinum card so

 

[Rekkapryde]

Yeah I have no idea what these cats are talking about.

Dr. Strange is inching towards $1 billion....come on here and people are like "I dunno, it might be a wrap for Marvel."

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Fred.

A "wrap" is definitely a cyse.

They just need to do some different shyt with their characters as well. That's all.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

My problem is they've changed the entire story structure of their movie products to force you to watch Disney+

The Strange movie low key doesn't make sense if you haven't watched Wandavision. Her entire attachment to her children doesn't make sense if you've never seen that show. The same can be said for the level up of her powers.

They've conditioned their fans that they need to watch EVERYTHING and their fans online have turned into Star Wars level defenders of their product. They keep pointing to box office numbers and Rotten Tomato scores without any fail meanwhile their loyalty is why Disney can put out dreck. The Ant Man movie in phase one had more effort and thought behind it than any of these Disney only produced phase two movies. Only Spiderman NWH has been good and that was a co-produced joint.

I will say pointing @ RT scores and box office numbers is trying to get to something close to an objective measure. Talking about and comparing your personal opinions doesn’t lead to anything. For example, what you said about Antman compared to Phase 4 movies I definitely disagree with. But getting into some argument about what you like vs what I like isn't going to to prove anything. It's all opinion and in the end just a waste of time.

 

[humminbird]

Get the Package with D+, ESPN, and Hulu for free with my AMEX Platinum card so

Oh shoot you’re part of platset

 

[Rekkapryde]

Oh shoot you’re part of platset

Yup. Had it for a couple of years now. Before that AMEX Delta Plat and Reserves.

 

[calh45]

I will say pointing @ RT scores and box office numbers is trying to get to something close to an objective measure. Talking about and comparing your personal opinions doesn’t lead to anything. For example, what you said about Antman compared to Phase 4 movies I definitely disagree with. But getting into some argument about what you like vs what I like isn't going to to prove anything. It's all opinion and in the end just a waste of time.

We can talk about Ant Man and MoM objectively as it pertains to plot points and story progression as far as logic goes. Every plot point in Ant Man progressed Scott Lang to the eventual point where he was battling Yellowjacket without any outrageous leaps in logic. It always made sense. That shows they cared.

1. He was a dad fresh out of prison
2. He was late on child support
3. His old crew comes up with a job to make a bit of money
4. The person he robs happens to be Pym
5. He put the suit on, freaks out when he shrinks, and puts that shyt right back in the house
6. Pym gets him out of jail because he needs someone expendable to fight Yellowjacket so his daughter isn't in danger......and we're off running

All of it makes sense.

In Multiverse of Madness it's sloppy from the beginning. I don't think I need to spoiler this, but in the moment, while I was in the theater, it didn't make ANY sense how Wanda was able to control transdimensional beings to chase America, but not be able to visit those universes herself......EVEN if you can dismiss that part of it, why didn't it occur to anyone to approach Wanda and tell her that she doesn't need to control or steal America's powers? They could help train her. Isn't that the whole reason for Kamar-Taj?? TO TRAIN PEOPLE WHO HAVE MYSTIC POWERS? Strange himself learned how to control magic there and instead of presenting that option to America it's just RUN AWAY FROM THE CRAZY WITCH.....Help me understand why Wanda would've turned down the option if Strange came to her, and said let us train America, and when she has her powers under control, we can send you to a universe where your kids exist, but they don't have a mother? OR why didn't Wanda think of that herself? These were my real time thoughts. They didn't happen in hindsight at all.

It was a movie full of sloppy lazy writing, that only gets defended because it is a Marvel movie, but she spent a whole movie killing folks over her imaginary kids and they spent maybe 15 seconds addressing that point. They just wanted to make a "monster" movie full of magic, but it was sloppy and lazy. Even the Thor movies that everyone hated made sense from a logic standpoint.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

We can talk about Ant Man and MoM objectively as it pertains to plot points and story progression as far as logic goes. Every plot point in Ant Man progressed Scott Lang to the eventual point where he was battling Yellowjacket without any outrageous leaps in logic. It always made sense. That shows they cared.

1. He was a dad fresh out of prison
2. He was late on child support
3. His old crew comes up with a job to make a bit of money
4. The person he robs happens to be Pym
5. He put the suit on, freaks out when he shrinks, and puts that shyt right back in the house
6. Pym gets him out of jail because he needs someone expendable to fight Yellowjacket so his daughter isn't in danger......and we're off running

All of it makes sense.

In Multiverse of Madness it's sloppy from the beginning. I don't think I need to spoiler this, but in the moment, while I was in the theater, it didn't make ANY sense how Wanda was able to control transdimensional beings to chase America, but not be able to visit those universes herself......EVEN if you can dismiss that part of it, why didn't it occur to anyone to approach Wanda and tell her that she doesn't need to control or steal America's powers? They could help train her. Isn't that the whole reason for Kamar-Taj?? TO TRAIN PEOPLE WHO HAVE MYSTIC POWERS? Strange himself learned how to control magic there and instead of presenting that option to America it's just RUN AWAY FROM THE CRAZY WITCH.....Help me understand why Wanda would've turned down the option if Strange came to her, and said let us train America, and when she has her powers under control, we can send you to a universe where your kids exist, but they don't have a mother? OR why didn't Wanda think of that herself? These were my real time thoughts. They didn't happen in hindsight at all.

It was a movie full of sloppy lazy writing, that only gets defended because it is a Marvel movie, but she spent a whole movie killing folks over her imaginary kids and they spent maybe 15 seconds addressing that point. They just wanted to make a "monster" movie full of magic, but it was sloppy and lazy. Even the Thor movies that everyone hated made sense from a logic standpoint.

Why did Pym select Scott Lang? That was rather arbitrary and never explained. And how did Pym know he would eventually go back to a life of crime? And know he would turn back to crime in a timely manner to stop his adversaty from putting pym tech in the wrong hands? All thises movies have a level of lacking logic because they are fantastical stories that defy logic and reality.
All of Wanda's motivations are due to being corrupted by the Darkhold. And this option to go to a universe where she is dead and her kids are alive is kinda dumb. The first movie is about how using sorcery to manipulate what is to be is outlawed and/or frowned upon. THE BILL COMES DUE, ALWAYS. I think replacing a dead mother in another universe would fall under that category. Training America was not an option in her eyes since she is being corrupted by an evil book. But yes her sending those monsters as goons on her behalf was never explained how it was done and how dhe learned to do it.

 

[SunZoo]

Why did Pym select Scott Lang? That was rather arbitrary and never explained. And how did Pym know he would eventually go back to a life of crime? And know he would turn back to crime in a timely manner to stop his adversaty from putting pym tech in the wrong hands? All thises movies have a level of lacking logic because they are fantastical stories that defy logic and reality.
All of Wanda's motivations are due to being corrupted by the Darkhold. And this option to go to a universe where she is dead and her kids are alive is kinda dumb. The first movie is about how using sorcery to manipulate what is to be is outlawed and/or frowned upon. THE BILL COMES DUE, ALWAYS. I think replacing a dead mother in another universe would fall under that category. Training America was not an option in her eyes since she is being corrupted by an evil book. But yes her sending those monsters as goons on her behalf was never explained how it was done and how dhe learned to do it.

I mean...isn't that what spell books are for? Instructions on how to do stuff, summon stuff, project stuff?

They didn't explain how Strange used to 'good book' to defeat Thanos without giving up the stone in 838 either. He refererd to the book and it gave him what he needed to do what needed to be done. How or why that needs a detailed explanation is beyond me.