This is why the upcoming Fantastic 4 movie will fail.

[nieman]

its gonna suck no matter what, none of the characters are interesting

This is true. The characters themselves aren't individually interesting, but instead their family dynamic and how they also interact with others. That's also why The Incredibles was a better Fantastic Four than Fantastic Four. Chiklis as Grimm and Evans as Torch were the best and only good things about it, because of their chemistry and how they interacted. You couldn't even tell Grimm and Reed were best friends in the movie, and Sue relationship with everyone except Reed was untouched.

 

[Return of the Jedi]

EVERY time Fox has strayed from the source material it's been a disaster. The original FFs. Spiderman 3. X Men Origins Wolverine. This will follow.

 

[Art Barr]

Doom is the key. Casted right, his character would carry the movie and be one of the most beloved film comic villains of all. Up there with Magneto and Joker....but they have to do the right version. ..not the business man shyt.

this,....

for them to ignore doom.
when, doom was actually way more popular.
than mags and the entire cast of xmen oriignally anyway.
is a slight to the draw and brilliant legacy of one of the best villains ever.

doom should not have been wynngaard from the jim lee continuity of fantastic four.


art barr

 

[Art Barr]

This is true. The characters themselves aren't individually interesting, but instead their family dynamic and how they also interact with others. That's also why The Incredibles was a better Fantastic Four than Fantastic Four. Chiklis as Grimm and Evans as Torch were the best and only good things about it, because of their chemistry and how they interacted. You couldn't even tell Grimm and Reed were best friends in the movie, and Sue relationship with everyone except Reed was untouched.

that movie sucked and sue was more in love with the silver surfer than reed.
which is why the movie franchise sucks.
as sue was always completely overly dedicated to reed.
their inabilty to recognize that is some bullshyt, all together.

art barr

 

[Kartel13]

you wouldn't have any movies that were actually worth viewing in a movie theatre.
if not for comic fans providing the draw and amplifying the franchises for the movies you view.
the disrespect we as comic fans get is appalling from people in the film industry, and general fan.
as they would not have one iota of the draw if not for us, period.
plus, they don't read the source material to even know to critique the comic book or the film, or the fans accurrately anyway.

as it is obvious of their reviews and bullshyt back talk.
after the superhero movies they say should have no reference to the comix.
are met with poor review after poor review.
while, a film franchise like ender's game.
to the likes of the hobbit has a run of five straight damn near best of all time movies ever.
by staying as true to the book and source material as possible.
outside of a few action sequence either cut down, or added for film.
without cutting out vital content from the source material that made it, the quality book franchise.
that ushered it into a film franchise.


art barr

Lol, disrespect? Look at yourself in the mirror and tell yourself "us comic book fans are disrespected" and see how silly that looks. The film industry has every right to instill their own vision. They will never follow the source material to a T. They will always recreate it with their own liking. The last 2 x-mens films didn't follow the source material completely and they were still dope as fukk. Either it works, or it doesn't. It's not whether the they follow the source material. X-men: First Class is one of the dopest comic book movies and it was nothing like the comic.


If anything, this new FF4 has a lot more positives than negatives. They have a well acted cast, a competent director, and an abomination to avoid i the first 2 flicks.

Heck, the first 2 blade movies pretty much disregarded the source material as well and those 2 flicks are great.

 

[Spaceman Piff]

i don't give a fukk about the source material..

if the trailer looks good.. i'm gonna go watch it.




the first 2 f4 movies sucked ass though

 

[Jazzy B.]

This will be shame the actor they got for Doom(the guy who played Koba in apes) will be wasted.

 

[El Cocodrilo]

As soon as I read that these Fantastic 4 are gonna be 4 kids that suffer an accident....

Spoiler

 

[Ain't That Something]

they ruined galactus worse than both doom and the surfer combined, though.
now, they want to make the ff4, into chronicle the team picture.
yeah, I liked chronicle.
yet, i am already for Michael to die, just like the black character in that.

Art Barr

Didn't they make Galactus some Cosmic cloud smoke thing

 

[R=G]

Well the last x men movie is a film adaptation from a legendary Chris Claremont storyline except Bishop got added and Rachel Summers was missing.

 

[HHR]

They actually do and so much so that when The Incredibles was released Fox was so worried that they had to go back reshoot a lot of scenes for the first FF4 due to how well received it was. The characters all pretty much have the same powers in both movies if you think about it (except for super speed).

Ehhhhh, that's a bit of a reach

 

[Art Barr]

Lol, disrespect? Look at yourself in the mirror and tell yourself "us comic book fans are disrespected" and see how silly that looks. The film industry has every right to instill their own vision. They will never follow the source material to a T. They will always recreate it with their own liking. The last 2 x-mens films didn't follow the source material completely and they were still dope as fukk. Either it works, or it doesn't. It's not whether the they follow the source material. X-men: First Class is one of the dopest comic book movies and it was nothing like the comic.


If anything, this new FF4 has a lot more positives than negatives. They have a well acted cast, a competent director, and an abomination to avoid i the first 2 flicks.

Heck, the first 2 blade movies pretty much disregarded the source material as well and those 2 flicks are great.

if you read the comics,...
you would not give or say that last class and dofp, were that great at all.
as a matter of fact, they are early xmen antagonist/protaganist stories.
grafted from when the xmen were not a draw.
ported onto when, the xmen were rebooted and actually up'd in quality and readership.
to be given the greatest story arcs of all time in comic history.
then, a gross b*stardization on film at that.

it is an attempt to reboot the franchise.
with younger principles, of the failed comic draws of prof x versus mag.
that, still strays away from source material that was already a proven draw, in the comics.
plus, written in a way that it could easily be ported to film without many changes.
dofp, given the fact the filmhouse has both the fantastic four and xmen.
is a gross undersight of their franchises and why the franchises need to both be re-booted.
then, released closer to the comic book source material.
as both the fantastic four and xmen are completely linked through franklin richards and jean/scott/phoenix/rachel summers.
that if they stuck to the source material.
there would be no need to reboot the film franchises at all, and we could have gotten much better movies.
plus, connecting story arcs and a marvel film universe on another film house that is not marvel.
not to mention, we could have gotten, an inferno, mutant massacre, xtinction agenda, xcalibur, xfactor, new mutants, and xforce movies
even, magneto being locked up could be much better.
as in the comix, he is responsible for being the greatest nuclear power and brough to trial for that.
plus, the xmen go to the outer space, and the shi'ar galaxy.
with a real phoenix storyline, complete with mister sinister, and later apocalypse, as well.
when, how in the fukk are you going to have an apocalypse story with no nathan summers.
or jean grey/scott summers made a principle in the franchise.

on top of the fact, that the films deviate so much.
you can not have apocalypse, in the next movie.
as it further drives the franchise into more absolute bullshyt levels.
which sets the xmen up for another reboot.
to make it three reboots, on top of the two complete bullshyt reboots.
that are still far so far short of the source material and quality it is a joke.

you don't read the xmen or fantastic four.
so, you don't have any fukk'n idea what you are talembout.
nor, what you could be getting.
yet, you will try to sit and tell me that you think you know.
when, i know you fukk'n don't, at all.
as you are not well versed in the stories you are missing at all.
to even comment on people who read and know the legendary story arcs of the comix.

the dofp, and the phoenix saga are two of the best comic stories of all time.
yet, you are trying to tell me that i am wrong.
while, giving praise to a film house.
that grossly understates and makes a complete mockery.
of why the actual principles and drawing entity were ported to film.



art barr

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

I'm not judging anything until I see a trailer first.

 

[Art Barr]

Well the last x men movie is a film adaptation from a legendary Chris Claremont storyline except Bishop got added and Rachel Summers was missing.

oh, i wonder why rachel summers was missing.
if this shyt was done right...
both franchises it would not need to be rebooted.
plus, they would have a superhero universe.
that could have a team up film on grander scale than the avengers, right now.
if they had of stayed true to the source material.

as a matter of fact,..
if they did the mutant massacre right,..
they could have used the seige perilous story arc too.

the missed earning potential of these franchises should have heads rollling, at this film house.


art barr

 

[Diunx]

So they hired this guy to direct a higher budget version of his last movie but with the FF characters?