Duran lost to Eseban De Jesus and Kirkland Laing but he beats Mayweather lol
you're basing your opinion strictly off reputation and not reality, also @krackdagawd roger never said Duran would beat Floyd he said it wouldn't be a easy fight
This is Why Floyd Mayweather will never be TBE
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Duran lost to Eseban De Jesus and Kirkland Laing but he beats Mayweather lol
you're basing your opinion strictly off reputation and not reality, also @krackdagawd roger never said Duran would beat Floyd he said it wouldn't be a easy fight
HE WASNT EVEN 30 yet lmao but he was out of his brown, all this out of prime nonsense all boxers got rounds on at them and get beat up in sparring, all these dumb ass excuses are just excuses
trinidad would've never lost to Hamsho either, so just say it
so what Antonio Cervantes ain't on Trinidad level who cares he beat for the title at 17
I agreed though....and it's used in the context I thought it would be.
Felix Trinidad IS a 2nd tier ATG Welterweight, he's not a Top 10 Welterweight of All-time. Benitez, however, is not a 2nd Tier ATG Welterweight, but the skills/style he possesed makes for a tougher matchup for SRL than Felix Trinidad would which is what I agreed with.
Tito couldnt deal with ODLH's boxing....how the hell would he stop SRL?
(not saying you said that, but Im just throwing it out there)Benitez' defense, speed, power, counter punching compared to Trinidad's assassin like, stalking come forward style leads to Trinidad getting beat much easier and sooner than Benitez did...who was stopped in the 15th round against SRL.
I agreed though....and it's used in the context I thought it would be.
Felix Trinidad IS a 2nd tier ATG Welterweight, he's not a Top 10 Welterweight of All-time. Benitez, however, is not a 2nd Tier ATG Welterweight, but the skills/style he possesed makes for a tougher matchup for SRL than Felix Trinidad would which is what I agreed with.
Tito couldnt deal with ODLH's boxing....how the hell would he stop SRL?
Benitez' defense, speed, power, counter punching compared to Trinidad's assassin like, stalking come forward style leads to Trinidad getting beat much easier and sooner than Benitez did...who was stopped in the 15th round against SRL.
Tito beat Oscar clearly what are you talking about
and when did I say he would beat Leonard, I'm saying he's worthy enough to get in a ring with him a pose a challenge, which wouldn't make him 2nd tier
so if Tito is second teir because he can't beat Leonard, then so his benitez and hearns, you see the dumb ass logic yall use
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It doesn't matter what his age was. Every fighter has different ages where their prime begins or hands. Him being being under 30 is irrelevant. In the case of Benitez, he lost his prime early due to all the drugs,drinking, partying, added on to his problem of being lazy (he never really trained, hated it).
Breh, Cervantes is a legit HOFer and was in his prime when Benitez beat him. Prior to that he hadn't lost in 5 years (his last L was to Niccolini Loche, an ATG and one of the greatest defensive fighters ever) and after the L to Benitez, he didn't lose again for another 4 years (and that was to Aaron Pryor, another great fighter). Stop dismiss him like he wasn't shyt.
Oh and it's funny how when it comes told Floyd it's not about his resume it's about his talent, but when other very talented fighters are brought up, you're quick to bring up the Ls they took
?So you're just gonna disregard that a fighter who turned PRO at 15 years old, and had 54 PROFESSIONAL fights and 13 years of PROFESSIONAL sparring already before fighting Matthew Hilton, wasnt out of his prime by then?
Maybe you should learn a litte more about Wilfredo Benitez....one of the BEST defensive boxers in boxing history....before talking down on him.
WTF?
Antonio Cervantes is the GOAT Columbian boxer and is a consensus Top 3 Junior Welterweight Of All-Time....arguably #1 (even though depending on the day you can argue JCC Sr and Aaron Pryor over him with my fave being The Hawk).
So you're just gonna disregard that a fighter who turned PRO at 15 years old, and had 54 PROFESSIONAL fights and 13 years of PROFESSIONAL sparring already before fighting Matthew Hilton, wasnt out of his prime by then?
Maybe you should learn a litte more about Wilfredo Benitez....one of the BEST defensive boxers in boxing history....before talking down on him.
WTF?
Antonio Cervantes is the GOAT Columbian boxer and is a consensus Top 3 Junior Welterweight Of All-Time....arguably #1 (even though depending on the day you can argue JCC Sr and Aaron Pryor over him with my fave being The Hawk).
He's not better than Trinidad so what does that make Trinidad
I'm not diminishing Benitez, you are diminishing Trinidad to boost up Benitez, all that shyt you said is irrelevant to who's better
margarito turned bro underraged too, I guess he's the goat WW too
Tito got a boxing clinic put on him
He is 2nd Tier. He's a 2nd Tier Welterweight Of All-Time, because he's not in the Top 10 (1st Tier) All-Time at 147.
Styles make fights. Tito's style makes him a much easier fight for SRL than Wilfredo Benitez.
AND, nobody has said "Tito is second teir because he can't beat Leonard". We're saying that Tito is a 2nd Tier Welterweight period, because he's not a Top 10 Welterweight Of All-Time. He's somewhere from 11-20.
Being that they never fought at the same weight class, it's hard to make that distinction. You dont know anything about Cervantes though and I WILL say this, Trinidad is a bit better, but not by much at all.
Did I say Benitez was the GOAT Welterweight?
And you're lack of knowledge of the HISTORY of the sport, and resorting to troll tactics, let's me know I got this one in the bag.
Tito got a boxing clinic put on him
He is 2nd Tier. He's a 2nd Tier Welterweight Of All-Time, because he's not in the Top 10 (1st Tier) All-Time at 147.
Styles make fights. Tito's style makes him a much easier fight for SRL than Wilfredo Benitez.
AND, nobody has said "Tito is second teir because he can't beat Leonard". We're saying that Tito is a 2nd Tier Welterweight period, because he's not a Top 10 Welterweight Of All-Time. He's somewhere from 11-20.
None of you saying even make any sense
Tito would beat Benitez because he's just better, this nikka beat Oscar clearly you're smoking
Of course it doesnt make sense to you
For the final time, Felix "Tito" Trinidad is not a Top 10 Welterweight Of All-Time (1st Tier), he's somewhere between 11-20 All-Time which puts him in the 2nd tier with Pernell Whitaker, Oscar De La Hoya, etc.
Tito Trinidad vs Wilfredo Benitez? Since when did this spin into a fight between those two?
Your last post before this one was about Tito being better than Cervantes, and he is, but not by much....same with Tito vs Benitez. Tito is better, but not by much to brag about.
Oscar De La Hoya gave Felix Trinidad a boxing clinic
He ran the last 2-3 rounds, because he thought the fight was in the bag and got robbed for it, but anybody with eyes knows that DLH put the hands to Tito easy.
Of course it doesnt make sense to you
For the final time, Felix "Tito" Trinidad is not a Top 10 Welterweight Of All-Time (1st Tier), he's somewhere between 11-20 All-Time which puts him in the 2nd tier with Pernell Whitaker, Oscar De La Hoya, etc.
Tito Trinidad vs Wilfredo Benitez? Since when did this spin into a fight between those two?
Your last post before this one was about Tito being better than Cervantes, and he is, but not by much....same with Tito vs Benitez. Tito is better, but not by much to brag about.
Oscar De La Hoya gave Felix Trinidad a boxing clinic
He ran the last 2-3 rounds, because he thought the fight was in the bag and got robbed for it, but anybody with eyes knows that DLH put the hands to Tito easy.
Bottom line is Tito is not a second tier Welteweight shyt is dumbest shyt I've heard
Tito could compete at the highest level in any era, shyt that comes out the mouths of you heathens
How about you prove it
We're all watching you now...prove that Felix Trinidad is a 1st tier welterweight of all-time
Compile a Top 10 Welterweights Of All-Time list that INCLUDES Felix Trinidad in the top 10
Compile a Top 10 Welterweights Of All-Time list that INCLUDES Felix Trinidad in the top 10 then
How about you prove it
We're all watching you now...prove that Felix Trinidad is a 1st Tier welterweight to ever box
first off this list is dumb as fukk and doesn't exists
If I made a top ten heavyweight list of all time, Mike Tyson, Vitali and Wlad, Riddikk Bowe wouldn't even make the list so does that make them 2nd tier
also
Ican't think of 9 guys better than Tito at WW he's in my top ten
Yes.
If you make a ATG list and Riddikk Bowe, Vitali, etc dont make the top 10....they arent 1st Tier.