This is Why Floyd Mayweather will never be TBE

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floyd beats duran
floyd beats SRL
floyd vs hagler i give the edge to hagler, hes just too big at 160
hearns is taylor made to beat floyd but at the same time i wouldnt bet my money against floyd
never seen a fighter make adjustments like him ever:yeshrug:
 

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This is why Manny will never be TBE




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sounds OP is made Floyd is rich and doesn't have white grand kids yet, after comparing a fellow black man to a gorilla

Floyd's the best because of his mastery of sport, has nothing to do with the zero or anything outside the ring

only reason he would even lose to hearns srl or hagler is because of the size difference, shyt Hearns was the light heavyweight champ for crying out loud Ray Leonard has the best chance of beating him because he's the most intelligent
 

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Here's a great article from last year, written by Michael Rosenthal, with HOF promoter/matchmaker Don Chagrin (and who's been in the sport of boxing since 1945) breaking down Floyd Mayweather Jr vs the 5 greatest Welterweights he's ever seen: Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, Roberto Duran, and Wilfredo Benitez.

He has Floyd going 2-3 over the 5 fights including losing one by KO:mjpls:




Mayweather vs The Greats: Chargin makes his picks
September 12, 2013

A lot of people wonder how Floyd Mayweather Jr. would he have done against the greatest welterweights of all time.

Perhaps no one on earth is in a better position to make that judgment than Don Chargin, a Hall of Fame matchmaker and promoter who has seen them all since breaking into the boxing business in 1945.

With that in mind, RingTV.com asked Chargin to name the five best welterweights he saw fight and indicate how Mayweather would’ve fared against them.

The five fighters: Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran and Wilfredo Benitez.

Chargin, a consultant for Golden Boy Promotions, thinks a lot of Mayweather. He believes “Money” would’ve given any welterweight in history – except one (see below) – trouble in the ring.

“Do I respect Floyd? Oh yeah,” Chargin said, “The main thing is his work ethic. I’ve seen him in the gym. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a fighter who works harder than him. And Floyd is very, very talented.

“He could’ve boxed with any of the five guys we’re talking about. Only one would’ve been a big favorite over him.”



RAY ROBINSON vs. MAYWEATHER

Chargin said he saw Robinson fight “seven, eight times,” mostly as a middleweight. However, he was there when Robinson fought Earl Turner in a welterweight bout in 1949 in Oakland, Calif. Robinson was 28 and at or near his peak at the time.

Robinson is widely considered to be the greatest fighter of all time.

“Robinson would’ve handled Floyd easily,” Chargin said. “He was so tall [5-foot-11] and everything. He had all the physical attributes. Great jab. He punched with the right hand. He punched with the hook. He had a great chin. His only weakness was old age after he fought too long.

“And as quick as Floyd is, I don’t think he could match Robinson in quickness. I think Ray would’ve boxed Floyd silly. He could even have stopped Floyd in the late rounds. I’m not being critical of Mayweather at all. Robinson was just that good. He was head and shoulders above everyone.”

Prediction: Robinson by late KO.



SUGAR RAY LEONARD vs. MAYWEATHER

“I think Leonard would have won. I was just talking to Teddy (Atlas) about this. I think Leonard would’ve gone after Floyd. Ray would’ve boxed but he also had the ability to finish. … Strictly boxing? They would be very, very close. Leonard was a better puncher, though. Once Leonard hurt you, he went in to finish that job. I always admired that.

“I think Floyd would’ve given Ray trouble. He would’ve given any of the five trouble except Robinson. I just think Leonard was a little better.”

Prediction: Leonard by decision



TOMMY HEARNS vs. MAYWEATHER

“This might be the toughest one to predict. With one punch, Hearns could change everything. He was that kind of puncher. He was a real fighter. And he looked like he always enjoyed it. I really liked watching him fight. His fights were always exciting, even the fights he lost. He gave you everything you want.

“If Floyd decided to sit down on his punches, he would have more power (than he typically demonstrates), but he doesn’t want to. Hey, you can’t knock success. He fights the way he fights.

“Hearns also had that height (6-foot-2) and reach. And when you think of Hearns, you think of just a puncher, but he could really box. I think Mayweather would have a good chance but I really believe Hearns would win.”

Prediction: Hearns by decision



ROBERTO DURAN vs. MAYWEATHER

Duran was a lightweight when he fought twice for Chargin in Los Angeles in 1973, against Juan Medina and Javier Ayala. He began to fight as a welterweight in the late 1970s.

Chargin pointed to Duran’s second fight against Leonard, when Leonard outboxed the Panamanian in the famous “no mas” fight, as an indication of what Mayweather might’ve been able to accomplish.

“Duran was probably one of the top lightweights of all time. And he was still a great fighter at welterweight,” Chargin said. “His toughness, mental toughness, punching power, great chin. He had everything.

“I think a fight with Mayweather would’ve been very, very close. And Mayweather could win. One thing he’d have over Duran is speed. I think he would’ve been too fast, too good a boxer for Duran. I’m picking Floyd.”

Prediction: Mayweather by decision



WILFREDO BENITEZ vs. MAYWEATHER

Chargin was the co-promoter when Carlos Palomino traveled to Puerto Rico in 1979 to fight Benitez, who took Palomino’s welterweight title by a split decision.

“Benitez was a great boxer. He had good hand speed, a good jab. Him and Flody would’ve been a clinic on boxing, how to throw proper punches and everything. I think Floyd would be a little too much for him. Benitez was hurt many times in his career. I think Floyd would caught him, built a big lead.”

Prediction: Mayweather by decision



http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/180775-mayweather-vs-the-greats-chargin-makes-his-picks



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At 147, he only beats Duran and Marvin Hagler kills him at 160 imo

Close fight would be had with SRL though, but SRL would be too active for him.

Let me think alittle more about Duran vs Floyd at 147 though

I think he beats Duran @ 147, 135 though :avb1:
 

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Floyd needed 2 fights to convincingly beat Castillo, and he just beats Duran? Foh.

At 147, he'd have a little more leeway to beat Duran.


At 135 though?:lupe:


Hands of Stone just MIGHT be too much for him:wow:


And I thought he lost to Castillo the 1st fight, so your opinion may be spot on breh:mjpls:
 

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I was listening to an old Bill Burr podcast where he mentioned an argument with his buddy Paul Virzi where Virzi said that Floyd Mayweather Jr would beat:

Sugar Ray Leonard
Roberto Duran
Tommy Hearns
and Marvin Hagler

Burr's argument was that Mayweather would at best, go 2-2 versus the 4 men.

So coli members, you got $10,000 to bet.

You think Mayweather is beating all 4 men?

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sounds OP is made Floyd is rich and doesn't have white grand kids yet, after comparing a fellow black man to a gorilla

Floyd's the best because of his mastery of sport, has nothing to do with the zero or anything outside the ring

only reason he would even lose to hearns srl or hagler is because of the size difference, shyt Hearns was the light heavyweight champ for crying out loud Ray Leonard has the best chance of beating him because he's the most intelligent

never said anything about outside the ring. try again
 

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Compare a small fighter to Legendary Heavyweights breh...

:dahell:


Floyd's not #TBE or #TBE in the divisions he even fought in (130, 135, 140, 147, or 154) :camby:


Those honors go to Alexis Arguello (130), Roberto Duran (135), Julio Cesar Chavez (140), Sugar Ray Robinson (147), and Thomas Hearns (154)
 
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never said anything about outside the ring. try again

really




And not only Ali, if you speak to the likes of Tyson and many others who did lose fights, but you see that they built a spirit bigger than boxing. Im not talking about the Vietnam situation, but the fact that boxing became a spiritual experience for Ali. They offer a level of wisdom, important to human development, and used boxing as a medium to convey that philosophy to you.

Tyson does the same. Quite a few other greats did the same.

Thats the true mark of a champion, well at least for me.


Ali showed his humanity. His losses showed his mortality, he confessed his weaknesses, but in spite of that mortality, he rose to immortality by deriving something bigger from the sport.


Not walking around with 2 million dollars in cash, buying hollow thots bugattis, doing wheelies on your bike the whole fight, then summarize your whole existence with nothing more than 3 words. Hard work, dedication. And to top it all off, has the gall to say to a entire people, 'What has Africa done for me.


Offer me more.


seriously man, stop it

yes Ali and Tyson are more interesting people than Floyd Mayweather, but what does that have to do with the sweet science

you didn't even mention anything about actually boxing and techniques in this entire post

its all bout the mystique of Tyson and Ali
 
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