This is the New Consensus Top 5 All Time.

[Conan]

Correct. These last 6 years, the only rappers that have been mentioned in most top 5 lists were Nas, Jay and Kendrick

And I'd argue that there is now a consensus around Andre 3000 deserving that spot more than Pac and Biggie. I personally disagree with this, but it is what it is.

Based off of what, his flute album? Or his guest verse on Walk it Out?

Big Boi has a greater claim to the top 5 than Andre 3000, as an equal partner on OutKast and as an artist with a dope solo catalog. There's no logical path where Andre 3000 is on there, kicking out Biggie and 2Pac.

 

[Chip Skylark]

Scarface MY number one tbh

I understand why. We don’t talk about him enough on here. Pure poet.

 

[2ATMsYouSteppinOrWhat]

Have to make sure I only converse with confirmed non-bots. The post counts and post topics are a dead giveaway



OWN is a very strong word.

He was the top artist in 2017, fair enough. But he didn't OWN the year. He was the front liner amongst Migos, Cardi B and others. It was Humble/DNA, which got forgotten once Bad and Boujee came out. Which was eclipsed by Bodak Yellow. Again, nothing we haven't seen before in terms of commercial spread.

He OWNED 2024. No one came close.

There's a difference.

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dot owned 2017 and it wasnt even close

 

[raoulduke187]

Camel-Face not even top 50 FOH

Nas...10 years ago I might agree with you but looking back dude was hella corny and tryhard

Kendrick that mf woulda been a weed carrier in the 90s. He's only in the GOAT discussion because his arch nemesis is everything wrong with the rap game embodied.


take these clowns out and put DMX, Ice Cube and any Wu member you like up there and you really have a top 5

 

[Conan]

Scarface MY number one tbh

He's legit. I put Ice Cube over Face because I'm more familiar with Cube's career but Face is the next one up. Not mad with anyone putting him at 1

mask off remix
new freezer
love
Loyalty
Dna
Humble
Heart 4

dot owned 2017 and it wasnt even close

Aye put on that Mask Off remix yo, said no one

Y'all weren't outside in 2017 for real

Camel-Face not even top 50 FOH

Nas...10 years ago I might agree with you but looking back dude was hella corny and tryhard

Kendrick that mf woulda been a weed carrier in the 90s. He's only in the GOAT discussion because his arch nemesis is everything wrong with the rap game embodied.


take these clowns out and put DMX, Ice Cube and any Wu member you like up there and you really have a top 5

 

[Mastamimd]

He's legit. I put Ice Cube over Face because I'm more familiar with Cube's career but Face is the next one up. Not mad with anyone putting him at 1





Aye put on that Mask Off remix yo, said no one

Y'all weren't outside in 2017 for real

nikkas was clowning the shyt out that feature

 

[InGodWeTrust]

OP list is correct but not in that order

 

[Conan]

nikkas was clowning the shyt out that feature

On God

Now I know they weren't outside

 

[trillanova]

I hate when people keep bringing up Andre’s name in these debates.

 

[Conan]

I hate when people keep bringing up Andre’s name in these debates.

Right.

He's 1 half of the best rap duo of all time but that's all he has going for him. Others on the list just have more on their resume

 

[Bondye Vodou]

If Cube & or Face ain’t in your top 5 but Kung-Fu Kenny is, yousa lie.

 

[Mike Wins]

And all them attempts to force Drake or Cole into the top 10 dead forever

 

[Bondye Vodou]

Lol no he didn't and doesn't

His classics are GKMC and TPAB

Section 80, very good. DAMN is very good. Mr Morales... eh. GNX... very good.

Anyways, rappers eligible for top 5, in no particular order:

Biggie
2Pac
Jay-Z
Nas
Ice Cube
Scarface (too regional, not his fault)
Big Boi (his solo career is very good, not elite like Cube after NWA)
Andre 3000 (solo career: non existent)
Rakim (important pacesetter from a critical perspective, but surpassed eventually)
LL (same as above)
Kendrick (plenty of deserved critical acclaim, but nothing we haven't seen before. Until last year he hasn't had a grip on the commercial sounds, let's see how long his new dominance lasts without a foil)
Eminem (technically up there, sometimes too much for his own good. Has the numbers, but only 1-2 classic albums)

Requirements:
Multiple classics
Critical acclaim
Commercial appeal
Elite songwriting ability
Genre pacesetters

Final selection is bolded. Don't care to rank them. But I can't make a case for any of the others out leaping the bolded. They're in the conversation though, not mad at anyone's list that includes the others.

NIkka, Face influenced like 4 outta 5 nikkas in ya top 5. How is he ”too regional”?

 

[Bondye Vodou]

Based off of what, his flute album? Or his guest verse on Walk it Out?

Big Boi has a greater claim to the top 5 than Andre 3000, as an equal partner on OutKast and as an artist with a dope solo catalog. There's no logical path where Andre 3000 is on there, kicking out Biggie and 2Pac.

The nikka‘s only real solo effort is a muthafukkin flute album,, but nikkas want to put him over the nikkas that gave you RTD, LAD, MATW, 7DT solo.

 

[FreshAIG]

If you was doing real consensus, Eminem would be in it

That's why consensus means nothing to me.