This is the New Consensus Top 5 All Time.

[Ziggiy]

Have to make sure I only converse with confirmed non-bots. The post counts and post topics are a dead giveaway



OWN is a very strong word.

He was the top artist in 2017, fair enough. But he didn't OWN the year. He was the front liner amongst Migos, Cardi B and others. It was Humble/DNA, which got forgotten once Bad and Boujee came out. Which was eclipsed by Bodak Yellow. Again, nothing we haven't seen before in terms of commercial spread.

He OWNED 2024. No one came close.

There's a difference.

Bad & Boujee was released as a single in late 2016 and hit number 1 in January of 2017, three months BEFORE Humble was released as a single. By the time Humble hit number 1, Bad & Boujee was no longer a top 20 song on the billboard hot 100.

So how exactly could a song that peaked three months previously make a song that not only topped the charts, but was the ONLY rap song to sell a million units within that year, be “forgotten” about?

 

[Conan]

Bad & Boujee was released as a single in late 2016 and hit number 1 in January of 2017, three months BEFORE Humble was released as a single. By the time Humble hit number 1, Bad & Boujee was no longer a top 20 song on the billboard hot 100.

So how exactly could a song that peaked three months previously make a song that not only topped the charts, but was the ONLY rap song to sell a million units within that year, be “forgotten” about?

You right, I mixed up the songs.

List of number-one R&B/hip-hop songs of 2017 (U.S.) - Wikipedia

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Again, look at the charts. How long was Humble on top for?

You really gonna say Humble was bigger than Bodak Yellow outside?

 

[semicko82]

They died. Crakkas are obsessed with death and nikkas are obsessed with what crakkkas promote to them. The same with Dilla. He's an all time great producer, but the man simply couldn't get placements the last year of his life and no one was buying his records. As soon as he dies, white folks act like they'd been fans of the man since he was learning to use the MPC 60 starting all of this "goat" talk. And it's disrespectful to those that were putting in work producing classics BEFORE him and AFTER his death. Biggie had 2 albums and 3 years active in hip hop(after his first release) and this mf got in the rock n roll HOF before Rakim, LL(he's in now), Nas, Wutang, De la Soul, and many others with at least 20 years in the industry . Make it make sense to me.


Had Nas been killed before IWW dropped, he would never have had a chance to make those average albums and people would overrate him. Some get special treatment in death and others, like Big Pun, are ignored.

didn't know this

 

[Revolutionary]

You right, I mixed up the songs.

List of number-one R&B/hip-hop songs of 2017 (U.S.) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Again, look at the charts. How long was Humble on top for?

You really gonna say Humble was bigger than Bodak Yellow outside?

 

[Mr 18]

You right, I mixed up the songs.

List of number-one R&B/hip-hop songs of 2017 (U.S.) - Wikipedia

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Again, look at the charts. How long was Humble on top for?

You really gonna say Humble was bigger than Bodak Yellow outside?

Easily lol. Humble is by far the biggest rap song of the previous decade. It is still the soundtrack of most sport events, and shyt is everywhere.

It's also the only rap song of the streaming era to cross the 20 million mark
When this song starts being played or performed by a dj, the crowd literally raps the shyt beginning to end acapella.

Not only was Humble the biggest rap song that year, its also the rap song that showed the most longevity out of any hip hop song released between 2010 to 2025.

 

[Conan]

Previous decade:

List of Billboard Hot Rap Songs number ones of the 2010s - Wikipedia

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I need to block bots man, I'm just being lazy

 

[Ziggiy]

You right, I mixed up the songs.

List of number-one R&B/hip-hop songs of 2017 (U.S.) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Again, look at the charts. How long was Humble on top for?

You really gonna say Humble was bigger than Bodak Yellow outside?

Humble was the ONLY rap single that sold a million units within the year of its release.


Saying a rapper owned a particular year doesn’t mean that other rappers didn’t get their shyt off. Jay-Z, Cardi and Migos all had great years in 2017. But they didn’t DOMINATE to the point they outshined Kendrick. Kendrick wasn’t competing with Migos or Jay-Z in 2017. He was competing with Bruno Mars & Ed Sheeran. Damn broke through the popular consciousness to the point where it won a PULITZER. No rapper had even close to a bigger overall impact than Kendrick that year. He owned that shyt. I don’t even know how anyone could debate it.

 

[mundL]

Kendrick isnt top 5 yet He will prolly never be

 

[Chip Skylark]

Only for casuals

Nas
Jay
Eminem
Big
Pac
Scarface
Ghostface
Ice cube (maybe)

In no order these are the top 7-8 greatest ever. At no point in time has Kendrick been a better rapper than them…. Yet. I’ll argue k dot could be top 10 though

I still won’t put him over Cube and Common. Well not yet. Cube late 80-early 90s run is still a top 3-5 run of all time.

He’s over Wayne and LL now but I also have Drake and Cole higher than them now too.

And the Eminem hate has to stop. 99-2005 Eminem is arguably the greatest rapper to ever step foot on the planet. I don’t listen to dude like that anymore but there’s only a handful rappers who have been better than that era Eminem. Nas, early 2000s Hov, Big, mixtape Wayne, early Lupe maybe mid 2010s Lu, the last decade black thought, and 2010s Royce

Em is top 5

 

[tysigna]

Yep thats what I'm seeing too. But to be fair he was already being discussed as a top 5 artist in the late 2010s.

imo top 5 is:

Jay
Nas
Kendrick
Pac
Andre

but consensus looking like:

Jay
Nas
Kendrick

and the 2 other slots are mad different, sometimes its Em, sometimes its pac, biggie, andre or YE

 

[Hum Alistair]

Yep thats what I'm seeing too. But to be fair he was already being discussed as a top 5 artist in the late 2010s.

imo top 5 is:

Jay
Nas
Kendrick
Pac
Andre

but consensus looking like:

Jay
Nas
Kendrick

and the 2 other slots are mad different, sometimes its Em, sometimes its pac, biggie, andre or YE

Correct. These last 6 years, the only rappers that have been mentioned in most top 5 lists were Nas, Jay and Kendrick

And I'd argue that there is now a consensus around Andre 3000 deserving that spot more than Pac and Biggie. I personally disagree with this, but it is what it is.

 

[Mastamimd]

Scarface over one of them but I'm not sure who yet

 

[Chip Skylark]

Scarface over one of them but I'm not sure who yet

Same and I forgot about Ghostface

That’s why I can’t do an order but Nas is my 1 lol

 

[Mastamimd]

Same and I forgot about Ghostface

That’s why I can’t do an order but Nas is my 1 lol

Scarface MY number one tbh

 

[Conan]

Humble was the ONLY rap single that sold a million units within the year of its release.


Saying a rapper owned a particular year doesn’t mean that other rappers didn’t get their shyt off. Jay-Z, Cardi and Migos all had great years in 2017. But they didn’t DOMINATE to the point they outshined Kendrick. Kendrick wasn’t competing with Migos or Jay-Z in 2017. He was competing with Bruno Mars & Ed Sheeran. Damn broke through the popular consciousness to the point where it won a PULITZER. No rapper had even close to a bigger overall impact than Kendrick that year. He owned that shyt. I don’t even know how anyone could debate it.

No one is arguing that anyone outshined Kendrick in 2017 overall. They were all at the table in 2017, including Kendrick. Kendrick owned the table in 2024, that's the difference. All the lists I've seen from 2017 online, Humble was hot but wasn't dominating the radio by far. And it certainly wasn't dominating the clubs and the streets by far.

Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles of 2017 - Wikipedia

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Humble still gets spins today, but that's not the point of discussion. We talking about 2017.

A Pulitzer? We are talking about commercial appeal. Who gives a fukk about a Pulitzer in the club or on the streets?