Things you didn't notice on The Wire until multiple watches

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

Omar's death was supposed to emphasize the random and wanton violence that goes with the drug game, or with any violent conflict that occurs. A grand send off or shoot out would've been corny. Most times, the notable figures in our life's don't get that grand send off or that one heroic moment, usually they just die, and sometimes for it's for the most superficial and petty of reasons.The legend they had just fades,and they end up mere footnotes in history. That's what made Omar's death so poignant to me. Seeing him get dropped so randomly, and later seeing that Omar's death barely make the newspaper, it was a stark reminder of how our disconnected parts of our society can be from one another, and that one vulnerable moment is all it takes, anybody can get got. It was all a partial callback to this scene imo.

 

[get these nets]

You're a clown. If you want to take what I wrote as a concession, good for you. Your prize is in the mail and on it's way.
It's only surprising to your sheltered ass that Mike became a killer. And you needed to see Kenards home life to believe he could be what he became. The way he carried himself wasn't enough.

I added that we saw little kids as hoppers the entire series.....including the kids that Wallace and Poor were watching so .....your line about ten year old character Kenard already selling drugs as something that was noteworthy on the show isn't, if you think about it.

I wrote that we saw Michael gradually heading towards a certain direction and even then....it was a bit of shock to see the first hit.

We see Mike's homelife and situation and it's completely fukked up....hard imagining Kenard's life being any worse.(in fact....Mike's situation might be worse than even the other hardluck cases Duke or Sherrod's because he has alittle brother to watch after)
Kenard came across as a little bad ass kid running his mouth...talking shyt.....from that? to hitting Omar was a HUGE reach.

I'm not a clown for respecting you for conceding obvious points. It's obvious that 2 people definitely knew the amount and location of the stash....Omar shoots one(not killing him) and would have shot the other if he gave the wrong answer. Regardless of whatever narrative you're following, this makes sense.
I conceded the obvious point you made about about dj clue's name and wallace alluding to him getting shot later. I didn't fillibuster..I just conceded.

 

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[get these nets]

Omar's death was supposed to emphasize the random and wanton violence that goes with the drug game, or with any violent conflict that occurs. A grand send off or shoot out would've been corny. Most times, the notable figures in our life's don't get that grand send off or that one heroic moment, usually they just die, and sometimes for it's for the most superficial and petty of reasons.The legend they had just fades,and they end up mere footnotes in history. That's what made Omar's death so poignant to me. Seeing him get dropped so randomly, and later seeing that Omar's death barely make the newspaper, it was a stark reminder of how our disconnected parts of our society can be from one another, and that one vulnerable moment is all it takes, anybody can get got. It was all a partial callback to this scene imo.

Did they show the article of Omar's death? wow, I missed that. good pull. the newsroom people mentioned it while editing the paper?

 

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

Did they show the article of Omar's death? wow, I missed that. good pull. the newsroom people mentioned it while editing the paper?

I just remember in the newsroom, one of the reporters describing Omar( didn't use his name) and how he got shot, and Gus telling him to give the story a few lines in one section of the paper.They don't actually show the article itself I think, didn't mean to imply that, my bad.

 

[get these nets]

I just remember in the newsroom, one of the reporters describing Omar( didn't use his name) and how he got shot, and Gus telling him to give the story a few lines in one section of the paper.They don't actually show the article itself I think, didn't mean to imply that, my bad.

Thanks.....I didn't notice it.

that's cool Phife avi

 

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

Thanks.....I didn't notice it.

that's cool Phife avi

Thanks. I miss the 5 foot assassin

 

[Ineedmoney504]

as long as you conceded the original point that Omar aimed at and would have shot the kid, I'm good.As long as I got you to walk back that "omar was probably bluffing on shooting kid" &' he aimed at the kid rather than the older dudes who were in the room because he was easier to scare"

Compare everything you just wrote about Kenard's background with Michael
mom is a known drug addict....sells the household food for drugs
bugs' father molested him..and is back from jail
he backs down from NOBODY.....not marlo..not officer walker....not those 3 adult fiends who try to intimidate him, not Spider, not the guys who try to jump Randy, not Cutty
we literally see him changing into a killer..and even then it's still a bit surprising to see him do his first hit

Kenard? NO!!!
We see little kid hoppers the entire series....the kids Wallace and Poot were taking care of were hoppers.....the little kids holding drugs in bookbags for deliveries are transporting drugs.

Kennard was definitely on the path of being a killer

Mike not so much until Chris grabbed him, mike was really a good/smart kid in a fukked up world that got taken under the wing of killers

Kennard was a bad ass kid who was stealing dope bags from boys 5-6 years older than him and calling they bluff, taking ass whippings and going right back to the corner and working and not tripping off, if he was you normal 10 year old he would have quit selling drugs after what mike did him.

In a scene during season 3 mcnuty and bunk is on the west side and as they leave they see 3 kids playing acting out a shootout, and one of the kids is kennard, and you hear kennard saying “I’m Omar yo”

That was his natural progression was being a killer, that was the next step for him, he didn’t need to be influenced or trained, he already had that in him.

Not to mentioned he already had loosely worked for Marlo being that he worked for mike is another reason.

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

I thought I wrote this earlier but apparently not.

Three other characters from Homicide appeared on The Wire

the judge that McNulty was snitching to was a cop

the Medical Examiner played Luther...a super creepy bad guy

i think this woman appeared as a fed or a judge

much too
he was chilling in the bar

thus making the wire in the same universe ans law and order/homicide/and the chicago series

 

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Kennard was definitely on the path of being a killer

Mike not so much until Chris grabbed him, mike was really a good/smart kid in a fukked up world that got taken under the wing of killers

Kennard was a bad ass kid who was stealing dope bags from boys 5-6 years older than him and calling they bluff, taking ass whippings and going right back to the corner and working and not tripping off, if he was you normal 10 year old he would have quit selling drugs after what mike did him.

In a scene during season 3 mcnuty and bunk is on the west side and as they leave they see 3 kids playing acting out a shootout, and one of the kids is kennard, and you hear kennard saying “I’m Omar yo”

That was his natural progression was being a killer, that was the next step for him, he didn’t need to be influenced or trained, he already had that in him.

Not to mentioned he already had loosely worked for Marlo being that he worked for mike is another reason.

Somebody in this thread mentioned Kenard being one of those kids play acting like Omar and reinacting that street shootout, I didn't think it was him and still don't. Will go back and watch the scene and confirm one way or the other.

About the rest, to me Kenard was just a bad ass kid who talked a lot of shyt. On a street level...he operated like everybody else does....challenge weak leader(Naymond) and respect strong leader who establishes dominance(Michael).
Bodie challenged D'angelo when he was running the pit.because he could sense that he was weak, for example. Spider and Kenard challenged Duke when Mike put him in charge of that corner, for another example..
Strong leader establishes the pecking order and people fall in line.

Kenard wasn't a chump, because like you said he went back out there after taking the assbeating....he was in the streets and that's what his entire life was. But not being a chump to killing Omar is too big of a leap.

Before Chris recruits Michael to be a killer we already see that he is a tough guy.,loyal, .and not a follower.He sets off the brawl with the kids who jump Dukie, holds his own against the 3 adult fiends who try to scare him into giving them more drugs than they paid for..and he works corner only until he pays off debt for school clothes Doesn't back down from Spider at the gym or when Cutty challenges him to spar. Looks Marlo STRAIGHT in he face when he tries to punk him. He is no joke. Bugs' father coming home is what pushed him in the direction of being a killer...but by then it's well established that he is not to be played with.

 

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On initial watch inremember people shytting on naymond all the time.. but after rewatching you can see webays better characteristics in his son.

He raised his son to have a better life. He had videogames, clothes, etc. He was raised well enough with a family structure long enough to be able to be saved by bunny later on whereas dookie, mike and to a lesser extent randy until his eventual demise, were already lost from their early childhoods.

For example. Weebay being super ocd about his fish being well taken care of.. naymond gives mikes mom a deal on the dope cause she was his friends mom. He had empathy from being taken care of and hadnt yet seen that type of life. Thats why lil kids could bully him because at 7 kenard was way more experienced.

Weebay is a good guy overall i noticed. Always friendly. Cleans up messes for his friends. His job was muscle but he was a well mannered guy really. Dudnt argue with the cops... knew he was caught. Just wanted a pit sammich and extra horse It was like a job. He went though that so his son didnt have to. Him shutting down the mother was oneof the more powerful scenes showing a man with nothing and no life making the last decision in his sons to make sur he was taken care of. One of the only happy endings in entire show.

That storyline turned out to be my favorite of tye series with bodies. The wire really is the best written show all time as every charzcter no matter how minor has a full story.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Somebody in this thread mentioned Kenard being one of those kids play acting like Omar and reinacting that street shootout, I didn't think it was him and still don't. Will go back and watch the scene and confirm one way or the other.

About the rest, to me Kenard was just a bad ass kid who talked a lot of shyt. On a street level...he operated like everybody else does....challenge weak leader(Naymond) and respect strong leader who establishes dominance(Michael).
Bodie challenged D'angelo when he was running the pit.because he could sense that he was weak, for example. Spider and Kenard challenged Duke when Mike put him in charge of that corner, for another example..
Strong leader establishes the pecking order and people fall in line.

Kenard wasn't a chump, because like you said he went back out there after taking the assbeating....he was in the streets and that's what his entire life was. But not being a chump to killing Omar is too big of a leap.

Before Chris recruits Michael to be a killer we already see that he is a tough guy.,loyal, .and not a follower.He sets off the brawl with the kids who jump Dukie, holds his own against the 3 adult fiends who try to scare him into giving them more drugs than they paid for..and he works corner only until he pays off debt for school clothes Doesn't back down from Spider at the gym or when Cutty challenges him to spar. Looks Marlo STRAIGHT in he face when he tries to punk him. He is no joke. Bugs' father coming home is what pushed him in the direction of being a killer...but by then it's well established that he is not to be played with.

Yea it definitely Kennard. He is your typical I wanna be down kid and caught a body. He killed him like a kid would, wide open in broad daylight

 

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Yea it definitely Kennard. He is your typical I wanna be down kid and caught a body. He killed him like a kid would, wide open in broad daylight

You were right. I was wrong about that scene.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

You were right. I was wrong about that scene.

I’m sure a lot of us in the thread has watched the series multiple times so it’s easy for us to catch.

 

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I’m sure a lot of us in the thread has watched the series multiple times so it’s easy for us to catch.

I watched the series on pc and it shows.My man transfered his box set to avi files and hit me and since the series ended, that's how I've watched it . I actually own the dvd sets of the five seasons, never opened.

Some of the L's I've taken in this thread are based on me not watching the series on an actual tv screen.

I still don't like the Kenard story arc, but him being shown playing Omar in earlier season does add to his backstory and does make the bullshyt ending more digestible.
Thanks for the correction.