Things in hip hop that are so forgotten they feel retconned

[Pop123]

Canibus being the hottest shyt in the city for like 5 months, lol. He can literally argue that he was king of new york with his kids if he wants, he really was that guy

 

[FunkDoc1112]

I was all the way around then.

EVERY producer who was worth something from a credible perspective was jockin his shyt like a motherfukker. He was your favourite producers producer either vocally or on the low.

If anyone tells you otherwise they don't know whats up

I mean even DIlla himself has talked about people looking at his Tribe, Pharcye, and Q-Tip solo shyt sideways at first.

 

[hex]

I do remember hearing from someone (maybe @hex or @Piff Perkins ) that a good 80% of Bandana were just beats that Kanye West didn't end up using.

It was me that said that but the version we heard wasn't what Gibbs originally mentioned in relation to the Ye tracks. Let me explain.

Gibbs said he had a gang of beats that Kanye didn't use for "The Life Of Pablo". This was in 2016. I started the official thread for "Bandana" in 2016 because Blair Norf (another producer Gibbs uses) said he already heard "Bandana" and it was amazing.

As you know the album didn't actually come out until June 2019. So whatever Blair Norf heard clearly wasn't the album that came out in 2019. So it's possible there's a different version of the album with whatever beats Madlib gave Ye. It might have completely different songs, too.

Fred.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

I mean even DIlla himself has talked about people looking at his Tribe, Pharcye, and Q-Tip solo shyt sideways at first.

People responded to 'Beats, Rhymes and Life' and 'The Love Movement' in a certain way, they wanted Midnight Marauders. They were looking for people to blame, Jay Dee and Cons were the obvious ones. In retrospect it was Tribe themselves, they were finished as a group from a cohesion/collaboration perspective.

I'm talking about his fellow producers being amazed, not the consumers.

 

[CSquare43]

Anyone mention Mos Def & Beyonce?

This entire series of ads:

 

[CSquare43]

Suga Free before he became SF:

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Nothing on No Fury had the type of impact as a single as Grinding. And maybe not even the same Cot Damn. And even What Happened To That Boy felt like a bigger Clipse song than anything on No Fury, and it wasn't even a Clipse song.

But as an album you think it's better than Lord Willin, right? If you don;t, then I don't think it's that crazy of a take, but I've always thought Lord Willin had the bigger hits, but No Fury was the more cohesive album. And on No Fury their voices sounded more distinct, as Push came into his own on there. I thought Malice really stood out as the better emcee on Lord Willin, but Push stepped up big time on No Fury.

BTW Push used Biggie's exact flow on this joint and nobody ever talked about it or realized it.

Yeah i think Push said he was trying to rap like Biggie for the WHOLE album. I went back and listened to it and now it's so obvious

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Nas being dead in the water critically before Takeover

??? That's like the most crucial part of the narrative. Nas' career was on the ropes, Takeover seemed like the knockout blow and then Ether and Stillmatic put the battery back in his back.

 

[Zero]

??? That's like the most crucial part of the narrative. Nas' career was on the ropes, Takeover seemed like the knockout blow and then Ether and Stillmatic put the battery back in his back.

That one was for the Coli

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Anyone mention Mos Def & Beyonce?

This entire series of ads:

Clarence 13x was kicked out of the Nation for gambling no?


This was always my shyt out of those St Ides jams.

 

[ddoucette214]

I thought of more, props to the OP for this thread:

Doughboyz Cashout being signed to CTE.

Rich Homie Quans brief run of hits.

Nelly did have (very lightweight) gun talk on his first album despite saying he didn’t. “....street sweeper baby .... ready to let it go” etc.

“Ace Hood flow”.

Kanye and Timbaland making Techno hip hop.

ASAP Rocky being poised to be on the level of Drake, Big Sean, Kendrick etc.

The Kendrick as Dre’s protégée connection. But I guess for good reason because Kendrick took the ball and ran after GKMC.

more of a coincidence - 50 Cent didn’t diss Dr Dre or Eminem on “How to Rob”. Maybe Em wasn’t out yet but Dre would’ve been an easy target.

That 50 fell off after Curtis. I guess it’s subjective but he still had a gold album and a few hits afterwards.

DMX “Ain’t no Sunshine” song. It was a big radio hit (at least in my area) and I feel like i never heard it again post-2001.

Big Sean & Tyga helping re-popularize snapbacks.

Jim Jones laying the groundwork for hip hop fashion of the late 2000’s to today.

Partynextdoor supposedly being like 33 years old but claiming to be 10 years younger.

 

[Alvin]

Meek mill and Travis Scott being signed to grand hustle

C murder vs Master P beef

To my knowledge Travis is still signed to Tip

 

[Yehuda]

I found it.



While we're still on the subject, Killer Mike trying to be known as Maserati Mike, then later Mike bigga.

Breh had a whole lot to get off his chest.

 

[Chris Cool]

Breh had a whole lot to get off his chest.

In respond to this.

Which was in response to this.

 

[shawntitan]

Or

Everyone pretended this never happened... I assume Havoc was drunk, right? Lost a lot of respect for the Mobb after this...