They treating these running backs like women pushing 30

[IIVI]

You don't need a great running back until the play-offs tbh when clock control gets critical.

Play-offs you need every advantage you can get and your offense needs to play any style of game you need to at the time, plus the additional red zone threat.

RB need load management the most. If I were a team I'd favor a top-talent RB, give them touches through the season to keep their rhythm (not rely on them heavy), keep them healthy for the play-offs where you unleash them in cold weather.

Defenders were wincing at the thought of tackling Pacheco on KC for example, who had fresh legs and no wear and tear as a rookie.
Dude only having 180 touches through the entire season, but nearly 40 in 3 play-off games and many were critical downs to push that line and move the chains.

Sure a top RB hasn't won a Super Bowl in quite awhile, but Cooper Kupp is the only top WR who's won a SB in a long time as well. Otherwise it's been basically Mahomes and Brady stellar play.

KC really does get it:

 

[Born2BKing]

Sounds good to me.

I ike it.

 

[SadimirPutin]

Sounds good to me.

Who controls that money?

Does that mean the team itself doesn't have to pay the RB the money since it comes out of a collective pool?(I am assuming this is I dont know the specifics)

 

[Shadow King]

The NFLPA is hands down the worst union in professional sports....and is run by absolute incompetents

They will never be able to get rid of the franchise tag and the players in the NFL dont have the discipline to not cave in to fight for a bigger cause.

At the end of the day the NFLPA is the shxttiest Pro players union ive ever seen in my life. Players aren't ever going to have contracts at the level they should because of it.

NFL players historically have the weakest resolve of major sport athletes when it comes to striking, player concessions, and predicting how the game will change.

It's obvious the NFL has wanted a faster paced game with less violence. RBs don't contribute to either and actually have the opposite effect. Combine that with Hybrid QBs and Franchise tags and you have a market that can treat RBs like a car lease instead of an investment.

Too many players and economic tiers to play hardball in negotiations.

 

[10bandz]

Saquan and Ekeler are elite pass-catching receivers.
The RBs already adapted to be “combo” players. GMs are still refusing to invest long term

Ekeler is 28 why would you invest long term in him? You guys are just ignoring the decades long trend for RBs.

For saquon I’d invest it him but not for 4+ years.

 

[10bandz]

It's crazy because an aggressive running attack was key for the Chiefs' Super Bowl run last season.



Dude played a man's game out there.

I think Jacobs would be incredible on the Jaguars.

Isiah was a rookie last year and is only 24. No one is devaluing the running game….it’s about investing long term in older RBs. The fact the Chiefs were able to use a rookie RB for a Super Bowl only strengthens that concept.

 

[Shadow King]

I mean this would be my philosophy for dual threat qbs as well. Draft them, run em in the ground like Cam... Then draft another one and let him walk after year 4.


Morally wrong but prolly would keep you in contention by building up the rest of the roster by not paying a QB 50 million

Young QBs don't have the plug & play factor RBs have even as dual threats.

 

[8WON6]

I'm sorry but you don't wanna be upside down on a RB contract if one of these dudes get hurt. You can find a Pacheco in late rounds and retool. Yes, it's nice to have a great one but, that's a position where a dude can fall of a cliff at any moment. The best these dudes need to look for is to be on some Jerrick McKinnon, role player pick up a blitz and catch outta the back field type of shyt.

 

[Shadow King]

You don't need a great running back until the play-offs tbh when clock control gets critical.

Play-offs you need every advantage you can get and your offense needs to play any style of game you need to at the time, plus the additional red zone threat.

RB need load management the most. If I were a team I'd favor a top-talent RB, give them touches through the season to keep their rhythm (not rely on them heavy), keep them healthy for the play-offs where you unleash them in cold weather.

Defenders were wincing at the thought of tackling Pacheco on KC for example, who had fresh legs and no wear and tear as a rookie.
Dude only having 180 touches through the entire season, but nearly 40 in 3 play-off games and many were critical downs to push that line and move the chains.

Sure a top RB hasn't won a Super Bowl in quite awhile, but Cooper Kupp is the only top WR who's won a SB in a long time as well. Otherwise it's been basically Mahomes and Brady stellar play.

KC really does get it:

2 extra rushes per game isn't really "unleashing".

 

[KFBF]

NFL colluded with Dan Snyder to ensure that the NFLPA kept Demaurice Smith as the president. If the company likes the union prez that much he's not doing a good job.

 

[heart]

I'm sorry but you don't wanna be upside down on a RB contract if one of these dudes get hurt. You can find a Pacheco in late rounds and retool. Yes, it's nice to have a great one but, that's a position where a dude can fall of a cliff at any moment. The best these dudes need to look for is to be on some Jerrick McKinnon, role player pick up a blitz and catch outta the back field type of shyt.

Yeah when you think about a guy like Pacheco and that KC team last year, what is crazy is the 4th string RB on that SB team was Ronald Jones III who in the previous year was the back up to Fornette who beat him out for the job. Now Jones who is only 25 is on his 3rd team in three years now with the Cowboys but there is talk that he may not even make the final 53 which could put him essentially out of the league. Life comes at you fast playing that positon.

Point is the RB position is treated like a lease and not an investment for better or worse. My son committed to a school as a RB primarily but I don't feel that position is best for his future so he's switching full time to safety going forward.

 

[Born2BKing]

Who controls that money?

Does that mean the team itself doesn't have to pay the RB the money since it comes out of a collective pool?(I am assuming this is I dont know the specifics)

The NFL pays the money. It's almost like an insurance policy for players but instead of for an injury, its for outplaying your contract.

 

[IIVI]

2 extra rushes per game isn't really "unleashing".

I meant moreso that you're pushing out a well-rested, not worn down back into the postseason rather than one who's ran the ball 300+ times already.

If you can limit Derrick Henry to 230-250 rushes, that's going to make a big difference come post season vs going out there after 380 carries.

Of course it's reliant on your overall offense as well to be able to do that, but all you need to do is win enough games to make it to the post season because everybody 1-6 has a legit shot at that point. If you can rest your star RB and get it done vs weaker teams, you should do so as much as possible.

It's crazy some of these teams when they're far ahead in a game still send their main RB out there to kill clock only to get stuffed by a wall of linemen, linebackers and safeties. Makes zero sense.

Josh Jacobs had 340 attempts, whereas the year prior he's never went over 280. That needs to come down this season if they're not doing anything but still want to preserve their RB. Even as one of the most elusive RB's the last decade that's a big leap in physicality. McCaffery for example had nearly 100 fewer carries.

 

[JLova]

Passing league. QBs much more mobile these days. Teams no longer see the ROI on signing RBs to 2nd contracts.

 

[IIVI]

Isiah was a rookie last year and is only 24. No one is devaluing the running game….it’s about investing long term in older RBs. The fact the Chiefs were able to use a rookie RB for a Super Bowl only strengthens that concept.

The guy is clearly talented though. More YPC (4.9) than McCaffery, Jacobs, Saquon, Ekeler, etc.
5.3 YPC during the postseason. That ain't a normal RB.

Mass majority of the teams that guy is going for over 1k+ for the season and is a devastating runner to tackle. Chiefs simply don't need him to rush that much for them to win. However, in the postseason they can basically 'toggle on' a top 10 runner on their offense when they need to.

I'm sure he's going to get more carries next season, but I'm nearly positive they won't overdo it like some of these other teams do. They're going to save the running game for the postseason like they've been doing, but they obviously value an elite running attack otherwise they wouldn't have spent high draft picks on RB's.