They got Aziz Ansari

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

I totally agree and I ain't a feminist, for the record. I'm talking strictly on the level of safety. You saying it's not realistic, I'm legit curious to how? No offense, but it reminds me of that whole "putting on a condom is gonna kill the mood" rhetoric from back in the day.

And you're saying a lot of sex wouldn't go down...well, apparently a lot of it isn't consensual anyway so where is the problem?

Feminist would have you believe that, but that's not true. Most encounters are consensual.

A very simple "Are you ready?", "Can I ____?", "Do you like that, baby?" is all that is needed. And if they don't answer yes, then it's your call from there to read the non verbal cues. But if you can't read it or are at all skeptical, do the smart thing and stop.

Again, this is unrealistic. It doesn't jive with how most sexual encounters go down. Most women find it to be turnoff when a guy asks permission to do things, only lames do that.

Don't allow feminists to distort your reality. It's very easy to tell if someone you're kissing isn't kissing you back. As you go further, you need only pause for a second, or back up to see if she will pull you closer.

Yes..."only yes means yes". "No" obviously doesn't meanH anything, besides the worst case scenario of "welp, too bad because here we go ". I would venture to assume that most creeps/rapists don't care particularly about the no.

This is bullshyt breh. As creepy as Aziz was, you think a "no" wouldn't have stopped him? When she finally did take action (declaring she was going to leave), did he try to physically stop her? Of course not. No means nothing to a rapist, which is why they get charged with rape when they ignore it.

 

[An ashy lil fap hand]

Nah.

Assuming a guy isn't a rapist/violent, there are multiple times you can end a date you aren't interested in.

I keep noticing a pattern with these stories where women have a gut instinct that this isn't a good date or they lose that tingly feeling but instead of just saying thanks and getting an Uber, they feel "obligated" to oblige this dude's pushiness with affection. Which reinforces that the bad social etiquette was okay.

I am all for women being accountable and making smarter decisions on the whole, regardless of the subject. I totally agree with you. But I can't tell/make women do anything. It would fall on deaf ears. All I can do is talk to other dudes about what our options are. So if my commentary seems one sided, it's because I don't have the solution for women at all.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

she wanted a backrub and a pat on the head. Oh and her p*ssy eaten...but she wasn't sure about sucking dikk, but wasn't down for sex. but only wanted gentle kisses. and she wanted to stay and watch a movie instead of leave. then when she wanted to leave he got her an uber.

she only wanted certain things and he was feeling her out. she didn't like that he couldn't get things right with some certain cues. She could have been like oral only and I don't deep french kiss with guys i just met...end of story. Or he could of asked what she wanted...end of story. This is bad communication all around....but leave it to a feminist and it turns into sexual assault like he was pinning her down and forcing anal on her.

She blew this dude.

Twice

Aziz is at least thinking "so...am I good or...?"

 

[raul04]

@4d 6f 6e 65 79 you gotta control your people my dude

 

[No1]

Feminist would have you believe that, but that's not true. Most encounters are consensual.


Again, this is unrealistic. It doesn't jive with how most sexual encounters go down. Most women find it to be turnoff when a guy asks permission to do things, only lames do that.

Don't allow feminists to distort your reality. It's very easy to tell if someone you're kissing isn't kissing you back. As you go further, you need only pause for a second, or back up to see if she will pull you closer.



This is bullshyt breh. As creepy as Aziz was, you think a "no" wouldn't have stopped him? When she finally did take action (declaring she was going to leave), did he try to physically stop her? Of course not. No means nothing to a rapist, which is why they get charged with rape when they ignore it.

Fam, imma be real. She put the sauce on that story. That just sounds wild crazy. In a 10 minutes span this nikka was walking all around the apartment putting his finger in your mouth and then vagina but you continued to chill on the couch again and again. This sounds wild.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

He said "Sorry I clearly misunderstood" and I can almost understand him, if she's okay all the time and not saying I'm not feeling this I'm out. Then he's under the impression that she's a freak. Women have to communicate what the deal is a lot better and a lot of problems can be stopped before it occurs.

I mean to be fair to her, he's clearly a thirsty and impatient dude...but if you're making out with him...and PERFORMING ORAL SEX VOLUNTARILY TWICE...I'd be a little confused as to how the night was progressing

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Just went over to the new neogaf/resetera just to see what they had to say about this cause they would stay on this guys dikk in the past....

...and yoooo, there are people literally calling for him to be arrested

It's getting crazy out there.

 

[Json]

I get where it's "fuzzy" but everyone really must agree to look at this shyt simply and safely. We simply need to reestablish ground rules.

IMO:

Anything other than a clear yes, is no. You can't be "kind of" having sex or "almost" sucking the dikk in your mouth.

If it ain't yes, just leave it alone physically. In an world where a woman can wake up and feel violated after the fact...just keep it totally real. If it ain't yes, stay dressed. lol. deadass.

Any chick that wants you to play this cat and mouse game is mentally fukked up and you shouldn't fukk them anyway. Recommend a therapist or group meeting or something.

And if you as a dude ain't gonna be looking at the non-verbal cues, you really shouldn't be fukking someone you don't even know. A woman's version of "being direct" is not the same as a man's. If you ain't gonna be sensitive to that, don't fukk the person. Being "truly sorry" isn't always enough.

Funny thing about all these celebs tho...it's like...breh, just have her sign a NDA/sex contract if you don't know what the hell you're doing.

You are being naive about how humans interact.

Step things back even before we get to the bedroom. If a guy ask a girl out 3 times and she says no, then ask her a year later and she says yes. But in turns out she just got out of a relationship and was in a vulnerable state. Her saying yes has nothing to do with her interest in him. It was about her emotional state from the break up that caused her to say yes.

But the way the conversation is going now, the guy coerced her by continually begging until she relented.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Fam, imma be real. She put the sauce on that story. That just sounds wild crazy. In a 10 minutes span this nikka was walking all around the apartment putting his finger in your mouth and then vagina but you continued to chill on the couch again and again. This sounds wild.

You can tell she flat out ignores the part where she's CLEARLY giving Aziz rhythm.

Ain't no way this dude is just doing all of this HOURS upon HOURS on end with none of her input.

Where's all this making out and grinding and fellatio coming from?

And you're sitting here hoping he massages you and plays with your hair?

You can't have it both ways

 

[Json]

I am all for women being accountable and making smarter decisions on the whole, regardless of the subject. I totally agree with you. But I can't tell/make women do anything. It would fall on deaf ears. All I can do is talk to other dudes about what our options are. So if my commentary seems one sided, it's because I don't have the solution for women at all.

Okay. I can respect this.

I don't want women to feel like their safety isn't guaranteed. But the way this conversation is developing is troubling.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Read half of it, seems like she was consenting the whole time. If you don't want to suck dikk, don't suck dikk...

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Fam, imma be real. She put the sauce on that story. That just sounds wild crazy. In a 10 minutes span this nikka was walking all around the apartment putting his finger in your mouth and then vagina but you continued to chill on the couch again and again. This sounds wild.

Agreed. I should clarify that the Aziz she describes is a creep, but we're only hearing it from her perspective. I don't pretend to know what really went down that night.

And yea, she even escaped the situation to the bathroom where she claims she was so shaken she had to re-compose herself. Yet, she came back out and still chose to "chill" with this dude? Her story sounds very one-sided with cherry picked details.

 

[Gold]

Bruh
I don’t get it
These nikkas have way more money and clout than me
Why are they trying to bumrush these hoes out the p*ssy?
I’ve had girls just not feel it and back off

That's exactly why though. They got too much ego.

 

[An ashy lil fap hand]

Feminist would have you believe that, but that's not true. Most encounters are consensual.


Again, this is unrealistic. It doesn't jive with how most sexual encounters go down. Most women find it to be turnoff when a guy asks permission to do things, only lames do that.

Don't allow feminists to distort your reality. It's very easy to tell if someone you're kissing isn't kissing you back. As you go further, you need only pause for a second, or back up to see if she will pull you closer.



This is bullshyt breh. As creepy as Aziz was, you think a "no" wouldn't have stopped him? When she finally did take action (declaring she was going to leave), did he try to physically stop her? Of course not. No means nothing to a rapist, which is why they get charged with rape when they ignore it.

I'm not speaking from research or feminist observation, bro. I'm speaking for personal experience. I've been around the block and plenty of times. And I will say that only once has a woman stopped intercourse because I was talking.

I mean we can chop up the hypotheticals all day. But the truth is, in an era where women can "take back" consent the next day and all this other gray area type shyt...the rules are simple, imo. I get it if you disagree. 1)All sex can be considered rape if consent can be rescinded after the fact. 2) Only response that matters is "Yes".

You are being naive about how humans interact.

Step things back even before we get to the bedroom. If a guy ask a girl out 3 times and she says no, then ask her a year later and she says yes. But in turns out she just got out of a relationship and was in a vulnerable state. Her saying yes has nothing to do with her interest in him. It was about her emotional state from the break up that caused her to say yes.

But the way the conversation is going now, the guy coerced her by continually begging until she relented.

I mean you can call it naive. I'm still talking straight up about safety and certainty. So many people worried about these mentally damaged, gone girl type broads being accountable when what we should be focused on is protecting your own ass. And I saw the post your post above.

I'm just tryna keep it real about the consequences because nothing else is gonna matter once them allegations come out, whether you did it or not.

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

Nope, you can't just call anything assault. She should have just left if she wasn't interested.