They got Aziz Ansari

[An ashy lil fap hand]

I get where it's "fuzzy" but everyone really must agree to look at this shyt simply and safely. We simply need to reestablish ground rules.

IMO:

Anything other than a clear yes, is no. You can't be "kind of" having sex or "almost" sucking the dikk in your mouth.

If it ain't yes, just leave it alone physically. In an world where a woman can wake up and feel violated after the fact...just keep it totally real. If it ain't yes, stay dressed. lol. deadass.

Any chick that wants you to play this cat and mouse game is mentally fukked up and you shouldn't fukk them anyway. Recommend a therapist or group meeting or something.

And if you as a dude ain't gonna be looking at the non-verbal cues, you really shouldn't be fukking someone you don't even know. A woman's version of "being direct" is not the same as a man's. If you ain't gonna be sensitive to that, don't fukk the person. Being "truly sorry" isn't always enough.

Funny thing about all these celebs tho...it's like...breh, just have her sign a NDA/sex contract if you don't know what the hell you're doing.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I get where it's "fuzzy" but everyone really must agree to look at this shyt simply and safely. We simply need to reestablish ground rules.

IMO:

Anything other than a clear yes, is no. You can't be "kind of" having sex or "almost" sucking the dikk in your mouth.

If it ain't yes, just leave it alone physically. In an world where a woman can wake up and feel violated after the fact...just keep it totally real. If it ain't yes, stay dressed. lol. deadass.

Any chick that wants you to play this cat and mouse game is mentally fukked up and you shouldn't fukk them anyway. Recommend a therapist or group meeting or something.

And if you as a dude ain't gonna be looking at the non-verbal cues, you really shouldn't be fukking someone you don't even know. A woman's version of "being direct" is not the same as a man's. If you ain't gonna be sensitive to that, don't fukk the person. Being "truly sorry" isn't always enough.

Funny thing about all these celebs tho...it's like...breh, just have her sign a NDA/sex contract if you don't know what the hell you're doing.

the only good thing about all these celebs getting dragged and accused is that it is making regular dudes discuss rape culture, something we have willfully ignored until now.

 

[Roid Jones]

"She thought he might rub her back, or play with her hair — something to calm her down." yo WTF just LEAVE if you're uncomfortable

 

[julessshmp]

You CLEARLY didn't read the article.

“He said something along the lines of, ‘How about you hop up and take a seat?’” Within moments, he was kissing her. “In a second, his hand was on my breast.” Then he was undressing her, then he undressed himself. She remembers feeling uncomfortable at how quickly things escalated.

When Ansari told her he was going to grab a condom within minutes of their first kiss, Grace voiced her hesitation explicitly. “I said something like, ‘Whoa, let’s relax for a sec, let’s chill.’” She says he then resumed kissing her, briefly performed oral sex on her, and asked her to do the same thing to him. She did, but not for long. “It was really quick. Everything was pretty much touched and done within ten minutes of hooking up, except for actual sex.”

She says Ansari began making a move on her that he repeated during their encounter. “The move he kept doing was taking his two fingers in a V-shape and putting them in my mouth, in my throat to wet his fingers, because the moment he’d stick his fingers in my throat he’d go straight for my vagina and try to finger me.” Grace called the move “the claw.”

Ansari also physically pulled her hand towards his penis multiple times throughout the night, from the time he first kissed her on the countertop onward. “He probably moved my hand to his dikk five to seven times,:confusedjagfan:” she said. “He really kept doing it after I moved it away.”

But the main thing was that he wouldn’t let her move away from him. She compared the path they cut across his apartment to a football play. “It was 30 minutes of me getting up and moving and him following and sticking his fingers down my throat again. It was really repetitive. It felt like a fukking game.”:50CentUMad:

Throughout the course of her short time in the apartment, she says she used verbal and non-verbal cues to indicate how uncomfortable and distressed she was. “Most of my discomfort was expressed in me pulling away and mumbling. I know that my hand stopped moving at some points,” she said. “I stopped moving my lips and turned cold.”:FuturamaFry:

Whether Ansari didn’t notice Grace’s reticence or knowingly ignored it is impossible for her to say. “I know I was physically giving off cues that I wasn’t interested. I don’t think that was noticed at all, or if it was, it was ignored.”

Ansari wanted to have sex. She said she remembers him asking again and again, “Where do you want me to fukk you?” while she was still seated on the countertop. She says she found the question tough to answer because she says she didn’t want to fukk him at all.

“I wasn’t really even thinking of that, I didn’t want to be engaged in that with him. But he kept asking, so I said, ‘Next time.’ And he goes, ‘Oh, you mean second date?’ and I go, ‘Oh, yeah, sure,’ and he goes, ‘Well, if I poured you another glass of wine now, would it count as our second date?’” He then poured her a glass and handed it to her. She excused herself to the bathroom soon after.

Grace says she spent around five minutes in the bathroom, collecting herself in the mirror and splashing herself with water. Then she went back to Ansari. He asked her if she was okay. “I said I don’t want to feel forced because then I’ll hate you, and I’d rather not hate you,” she said.

She told babe that at first, she was happy with how he reacted. “He said, ‘Oh, of course, it’s only fun if we’re both having fun.’ The response was technically very sweet and acknowledging the fact that I was very uncomfortable. Verbally, in that moment, he acknowledged that I needed to take it slow. Then he said, ‘Let’s just chill over here on the couch.’”

This moment is particularly significant for Grace, because she thought that would be the end of the sexual encounter — her remark about not wanting to feel “forced” had added a verbal component to the clues she was trying to give him about her discomfort. When she sat down on the floor next to Ansari, who sat on the couch, she thought he might rub her back, or play with her hair — something to calm her down.:50centscust::confusedjagfan:

Ansari instructed her to turn around. “He sat back and pointed to his penis and motioned for me to go down on him. And I did. I think I just felt really pressured. It was literally the most unexpected thing I thought would happen at that moment because I told him I was uncomfortable.”

Soon, he pulled her back up onto the couch. She would tell her friend via text later that night, “He [made out] with me again and says, ‘Doesn’t look like you hate me.’”

Halfway into the encounter, he led her from the couch to a different part of his apartment. He said he had to show her something. Then he brought her to a large mirror, bent her over and asked her again, “Where do you want me to fukk you? Do you want me to fukk you right here?” He rammed his penis against her ass while he said it, pantomiming intercourse.

“I just remember looking in the mirror and seeing him behind me. He was very much caught up in the moment and I obviously very much wasn’t,” Grace said. “After he bent me over is when I stood up and said no, I don’t think I’m ready to do this, I really don’t think I’m going to do this. And he said, ‘How about we just chill, but this time with our clothes on?’”


While the TV played in the background, he kissed her again, stuck his fingers down her throat again, and moved to undo her pants. She turned away. She remembers “feeling in a different mindset at that point.”

“I remember saying, ‘You guys are all the same, you guys are all the fukking same.’” Ansari asked her what she meant. When she turned to answer, she says he met her with “gross, forceful kisses.”

After that last kiss, Grace stood up from the couch, moved back to the kitchen island where she left her phone, and said she would call herself a car. He hugged her and kissed her goodbye, another “aggressive” kiss. When she pulled away, Ansari finally relented and insisted he’d call her the car. “He said, ‘It’s coming, but just tell them your name is Essence,’” she said, a name he has joked about using as a pseudonym in his sitcom.

She teared up in hallway, outside his place, pressing the down button on the elevator. The Uber was waiting when she left the building. He asked if she was Essence, she said yes, and then she rode back to her Brooklyn apartment. “I cried the whole ride home. At that point I felt violated. That last hour was so out of my hand.”

Babe asked Ansari’s representatives if they wanted to respond to Grace’s account, but they have yet to do so.

Grace compares Ansari’s sexual mannerisms to those of a horny, rough, entitled 18-year-old. She said so to her friends via text after the date and said the same thing to me when we spoke.


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Man, what the fukk am I supposed to take away from this? That this dude has no game? Or that she got assaulted?

SHE CANT SAY NO....??? WTF

 

[An ashy lil fap hand]

the only good thing about all these celebs getting dragged and accused is that it is making regular dudes discuss rape culture, something we have willfully ignored until now.

We? lol. Maybe as a whole but

I been aware of it.

 

[julessshmp]

Nah Im sick of these bytches, "I couldnt say no to sucking his dikk" bytch how did you not leave? He sat down told you to suck his dikk and you did it and now you wanna cry later and talk about "non verbal" cues. This is pure insanity. Like Chappelle said, this is dikk buyers remorse. FOH its getting to the point even if you DO have a written agreement these bytches gonna be like "well i was two days before my period. so I wasnt in a good state to sign it" and you captains gonna cape for these smuts, bytches like powerful men, then these nikkaz act like powerful men and they wanna cry rape, after you was the one chasing him talking about his camera like you gave a fukk, you were a fukkin groupie.

TOTAL AGREE..

 

[Kings County]

wtf is enthusiastic consent brehs?

u cant win this war brehs bytches can move the goalpost whenever they want and call it sexual assault
she never told him no one time or attempted to leave
like god damn bytch said "he gave me white whine i prefer red.. i dont like the fact i wasnt given a choice" like wtf did u ask for red wine no u took the wine and said nothing

im secretly recording audio of every sexual encounter from now on for my own protection

 

[J-Fire]

I get where it's "fuzzy" but everyone really must agree to look at this shyt simply and safely. We simply need to reestablish ground rules.

IMO:

Anything other than a clear yes, is no. You can't be "kind of" having sex or "almost" sucking the dikk in your mouth.

If it ain't yes, just leave it alone physically. In an world where a woman can wake up and feel violated after the fact...just keep it totally real. If it ain't yes, stay dressed. lol. deadass.

Any chick that wants you to play this cat and mouse game is mentally fukked up and you shouldn't fukk them anyway. Recommend a therapist or group meeting or something.

And if you as a dude ain't gonna be looking at the non-verbal cues, you really shouldn't be fukking someone you don't even know. A woman's version of "being direct" is not the same as a man's. If you ain't gonna be sensitive to that, don't fukk the person. Being "truly sorry" isn't always enough.

Funny thing about all these celebs tho...it's like...breh, just have her sign a NDA/sex contract if you don't know what the hell you're doing.

how does one prove "yes/consent" was given for specific acts? lol. How do you know a woman didn't feel forced to say yes in the moment to avoid harm, lol.


it's set up for you to fail where a woman has legal power in her favor to hit you with a case and possibly destroy your reputation. You forced to trust women to use their powers wisely and no one group is trustworthy enough to have that sort of power.

 

[Zero]

Dude spends all his time virtue signaling about how progressively woke he is...I knew this would happen. Look at this dude. It's clear he's an awkward weirdo who can't deal with women normally. He prob thought the feminist stuff would make women comfortable around him but his behavior fukked that up.

How are people defending dude? Following chicks around the apartment poking them with your dikk is wavy now?


She sent some mixed signals at times but overall nah man. Seems pretty obvious she wasn't feeling him and he was too desperate and stupid to stop.

Let's keep it a thousand breh, he has creep tendencies but she never revoked consent because she wanted a come up off his name. She never got it, so here we are.

It's the Evilore situation all over again :dayum:

 

[J-Fire]

how does one prove "yes/consent" was given for specific acts? lol. How do you know a woman didn't feel forced to say yes in the moment to avoid harm, lol.


it's set up for you to fail where a woman has legal power in her favor to hit you with a case and possibly destroy your reputation. You forced to trust women to use their powers wisely and no one group is trustworthy enough to have that sort of power.

that being said I think men need to be like I agreed to sex and not for her to suck my dikk. I didn't give strong cues cause i thought she would bite my dikk off like Lorena Bobbit.

 

[Kings County]

Fingers in her mouth the first date

ive done worse on first dates

 

[thekingsmen]

that being said I think men need to be like I agreed to sex and not for her to suck my dikk. I didn't give strong cues cause i thought she would bite my dikk off like Lorena Bobbit.

Lorena didnt bite, she cut it off with a knife.

 

[J-Fire]

Lorena didnt bite, she cut it off with a knife.

i know. but same principle.

 

[thekingsmen]

@4d 6f 6e 65 79 the article is getting hammered on their twitter page by women.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

it begins