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He said "Sorry I clearly misunderstood" and I can almost understand him, if she's okay all the time and not saying I'm not feeling this I'm out. Then he's under the impression that she's a freak. Women have to communicate what the deal is a lot better and a lot of problems can be stopped before it occurs.
 
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how does one prove "yes/consent" was given for specific acts? lol. How do you know a woman didn't feel forced to say yes in the moment to avoid harm, lol.


it's set up for you to fail where a woman has legal power in her favor to hit you with a case and possibly destroy your reputation. You forced to trust women to use their powers wisely and no one group is trustworthy enough to have that sort of power.
You aren't forced to trust women. :heh:

Why would you trust someone that you don't know? And since you are straight up penetrating someone...if you're unsure...just ask. It sounds lame but 1) better safe than sorry and 2) most dudes with game or common sense will have the woman asking (or begging, if done right) for the situation to escalate.

Believe me, if a woman wants have any kind of intercourse she is gonna go for it and likely be pretty forceful about it, too. Like, have you ever tried to a reject a woman's advances. They have a hard time taking no for an answer. They can't believe it.

And you don't have to prove consent...if consent was given. :leostare:
 

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:gucci::hubie:u cant win this war breh bytches can move the goalpost whenever they want and call it sexual assault
she never told him no one time or attempted to leave
like god damn bytch said he gave me white whine i prefer red.. i dont like the fact i wasnt given a choice like wtf did u ask for red wine wtf :hhh:

im secretly recording audio of every sexual encounter from now on for my own protection :yeshrug:

As soon as I read that part about the wine, I could tell what kind of bs it was gonna be. Im surprised that alone was not somehow perceived as sexual assault.
 

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Thats the thing though...this dude violated the ENTIRE night and she still ends up at his place.

The fukk?!
How was he in the wrong, bytch even clearly said she gave him HEAD. What the fukk was he supposed to think.....

:gucci:

Article keeps saying she was giving physical cues... bytch why not outright tel the man you're not with it! She setiously gave the dude head....

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I get where it's "fuzzy" but everyone really must agree to look at this shyt simply and safely. We simply need to reestablish ground rules.

IMO:

Anything other than a clear yes, is no. You can't be "kind of" having sex or "almost" sucking the dikk in your mouth.

If it ain't yes, just leave it alone physically. In an world where a woman can wake up and feel violated after the fact...just keep it totally real. If it ain't yes, stay dressed. lol. deadass.

Any chick that wants you to play this cat and mouse game is mentally fukked up and you shouldn't fukk them anyway. Recommend a therapist or group meeting or something.

And if you as a dude ain't gonna be looking at the non-verbal cues, you really shouldn't be fukking someone you don't even know. A woman's version of "being direct" is not the same as a man's. If you ain't gonna be sensitive to that, don't fukk the person. Being "truly sorry" isn't always enough.

Funny thing about all these celebs tho...it's like...breh, just have her sign a NDA/sex contract if you don't know what the hell you're doing.


I see feminist trying to change the mantra from "no means no" to "only yes means yes" but that just doesn't jive with reality. Most sexual encounters would not go down if you have to explicitly and verbally ask and affirm that the encounter will go down.

We need to stop coddling women and completely absolving them of any responsibility in these encounters. I get that in certain situations they may feel too afraid to verbalize a "no" (although it usually makes no logical sense if you're getting fukked unwillingly anyway without saying anything), but this don't seem like one of those cases. Aziz doesn't seem like an overpowering, violent guy, plus she went to the bathroom to "compose herself" cause she was so shaken, yet she came out and continued to "chill".

Don't get me wrong, I'm not excusing Aziz, my first response in this thread was highlighting his creepiness. But as an adult woman, you have to make adult decisions. Don't put yourself in a situation where you're alone with a guy that you would be scared to say "no" to.
 

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:gucci::hubie:u cant win this war breh bytches can move the goalpost whenever they want and call it sexual assault
she never told him no one time or attempted to leave
like god damn bytch said he gave me white whine i prefer red.. i dont like the fact i wasnt given a choice like wtf did u ask for red wine wtf :hhh:

im secretly recording audio of every sexual encounter from now on for my own protection :yeshrug:


Exactly! We're in disgusting times these days. These be the same bytches that if a dude was hella hesitant, she'll call him "shy" "scared" and etc :mjlol:
 
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I see feminist trying to change the mantra from "no means no" to "only yes means yes" but that just doesn't jive with reality. Most sexual encounters would not go down if you have to explicitly and verbally ask and affirm that the encounter will go down.

We need to stop coddling women and completely absolving them of any responsibility in these encounters. I get that in certain situations they may feel too afraid to verbalize a "no" (although it usually makes no logical sense if you're getting fukked unwillingly anyway without saying anything), but this don't seem like one of those cases. Aziz doesn't seem like an overpowering, violent guy, plus she went to the bathroom to "compose herself" cause she was so shaken, yet she came out and continued to "chill".

Don't get me wrong, I'm not excusing Aziz, my first response in this thread was highlighting his creepiness. But as an adult woman, you have to make adult decisions. Don't put yourself in a situation where you're alone with a guy that you would be scared to say "no" to.
I totally agree and I ain't a feminist, for the record. I'm talking strictly on the level of safety. You saying it's not realistic, I'm legit curious to how? No offense, but it reminds me of that whole "putting on a condom is gonna kill the mood" rhetoric from back in the day.

And you're saying a lot of sex wouldn't go down...well, apparently a lot of it isn't consensual anyway so where is the problem? :heh:

A very simple "Are you ready?", "Can I ____?", "Do you like that, baby?" is all that is needed. And if they don't answer yes, then it's your call from there to read the non verbal cues. But if you can't read it or are at all skeptical, do the smart thing and stop.

Yes..."only yes means yes". "No" obviously doesn't mean anything, besides the worst case scenario of "welp, too bad because here we go :birdman:". I would venture to assume that most creeps/rapists don't care particularly about the no.
 

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Hipster bytch that lives in Brooklyn, fits the profile of a #metoo scammer

This is why ii you're a celebrity you can't fukk with basic bytches.
 

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I totally agree and I ain't a feminist, for the record. I'm talking strictly on the level of safety. You saying it's not realistic, I'm legit curious to how? No offense, but it reminds me of that whole "putting on a condom is gonna kill the mood" rhetoric from back in the day.

And you're saying a lot of sex wouldn't go down...well, apparently a lot of it isn't consensual anyway so where is the problem? :heh:

A very simple "Are you ready?", "Can I ____?", "Do you like that, baby?" is all that is needed. And if they don't answer yes, then it's your call from there to read the non verbal cues. But if you can't read it or are at all skeptical, do the smart thing and stop.

Yes..."only yes means yes". "No" obviously doesn't mean anything, besides the worst case scenario of "welp, too bad because here we go :birdman:". I would venture to assume that most creeps/rapists don't care particularly about the no.


Nah.

Assuming a guy isn't a rapist/violent, there are multiple times you can end a date you aren't interested in.

I keep noticing a pattern with these stories where women have a gut instinct that this isn't a good date or they lose that tingly feeling but instead of just saying thanks and getting an Uber, they feel "obligated" to oblige this dude's pushiness with affection. Which reinforces that the bad social etiquette was okay.
 
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