Being left open while the main threats on your team are being lockdown does not make you a superior offensive player. That simply means you were given a green light
. and why does Draymond numbers suffer when curry and klay are injured?
you tried.
They debating on Elon's app who had the better prime: Dennis Rodman or Draymond Green
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. and why does Draymond numbers suffer when curry and klay are injured?you tried.seemorecizzy
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Draymond is probably a more gifted player...
...but Rodman maximized his skillset like none other.
he knew his role and executed it flawlessly
it gets no better
This never gets old
Yes you goofy ass nikka
Draymond is just 32, you can't take their "individual accolades" straight up. Rodman hadn't even reached the Bulls yet at 32.
Yes, Rodman has 5 titles and Draymond "only" had 4. But at this stage in his career, Rodman only had 2 titles and he came off the bench for one of those. If Draymond gets traded to a team with the GOAT and a 3-peat already in their pocket, then I'm pretty sure Draymond won't have a problem passing Rodman in titles. Imagine him on the Bucks, the Celtics, the Lakers...but the Warriors are going to keep him because he makes them a title contender.
Yes, Rodman has 8 All-Defensive team selections and Draymond has "only" 7. But at 32, Rodman only had 5 of those. Draymond will almost certainly pass him up there.
Draymond has "only" 1 DPOY because he finished a couple points behind Kawhi in the closest DPOY vote ever in 2015. Draymond actually got 8 more 1st-place votes than Kawhi did, but barely finished third because too many idiot box score watchers put DeAndre Jordan ahead of him on the ballot. Then in 2016, Draymond finished 2nd again. In 2021, he finished 3rd.
That was the entire accolades argument for Rodman - it's basically just ignoring the fact that Draymond has only played half as long as Rodman and treating those 2nd-place finishes in DPOY voting as if they count for nothing.
Worm could have been a solid offensive player if he wanted to or was called to do so which he likely would have been playing today.
Put him in the league now, he'd be practicing, taking and making more threes. He was also a dope post passer.
It's a 15 minute long reel of him being a vital play maker for one of the most dangerous and effective offenses ever.
You can argue that Dray is more well rounded based on the fact that he's allowed and asked to do more offenisvely but I don't think that means he's better, especially on some plug and play shyt.
I know you aren't smart enough... But please use your finger to keep up and I'll dumb it down for you.Being left open while the main threats on your team are being lockdown does not make you a superior offensive player. That simply means you were given a green light
This argument is prime vs prime. I don't understand how people are coming into this thread not actually READING what the discussion is about. But even then, you're argument is that "he's only making shots cause he's open!"... Do you think teams were guarding up on Rodman or was he also open for jumpers, and teams daring him to shoot.
Rodman couldn't shoot like Draymond, couldn't pass like Draymond, couldn't play-make like Draymond, couldn't dribble like Draymond, was a worse FT shooter.... I mean do I need to go on?
You tried kid
He shot 54% on free throws. Why would have have practiced threes in this era when he didn't even practice free throws in his own era?
The truth is that Rodman always had an underdeveloped skill set because he was a late bloomer who didn't play high school ball. Unless you want to rewrite his entire life story, he was never going to be a good offensive player.
How do you know whether you'll get Spurs Rodman or Bulls Rodman or Lakers Rodman?
Two of the three squads who had Dennis Rodman between 1994 and 1999 gave up on him.
Why not? Scouts were gaga over Draymond when he was coming into the league, said he'd be a great do-everything forward who would immediately make his teammates better. The only reason he fell in the draft was because he was viewed as too short to guard NBA bigs and too slow to guard NBA perimeter players - which obviously turned out to be a false worry.
Draymond has been great on the 2015 Warriors and on the 2023 Warriors. He's great whether Steph is there or not, whether KD is there or not, whether he's playing with the starters or the bench. What about his bball IQ, distribution, and defense is in question anymore regardless of what squad he plays for?
BigE214
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Well I guess Dennis’ 7 defensive first teams in 8 seasons puts this thread to bed
Can't believe I'm saying this, but TheColi has somehow managed to let me down more than I thought was humanly possible.
Draymond >>Rodman and it really shouldn't be up for discussion.
Draymond >>Rodman and it really shouldn't be up for discussion.
Imyremeshaw
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Draymond, Paul Silas, Dan Roundfield, and Rodman are all comparable players which I would personally take Silas over the other 3 (played on 2 different championship teams while )
It's kinda hard to comment on this thread with all the bad outtakes not knowing even a little bit of the history of the game....
Rodman is very overrated in that he just focused on defense after the pistons, he sabotaged the Spurs and Robinson
Draymond gets overrated as well, while a HOF player in the context of the warriors, i could list a multitude of players that replicate his production on those warriors teams...
While the NBA has changed of sorts (perimeter play in 2023) it remains the same,
It's kinda hard to comment on this thread with all the bad outtakes not knowing even a little bit of the history of the game....
Rodman is very overrated in that he just focused on defense after the pistons, he sabotaged the Spurs and Robinson
Draymond gets overrated as well, while a HOF player in the context of the warriors, i could list a multitude of players that replicate his production on those warriors teams...
While the NBA has changed of sorts (perimeter play in 2023) it remains the same,
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Didn't read.. but I know you're not smart enough to understand why Draymond numbers suffers when splash nikkas aren't on the court
but bigging up game seven when he was left open like westbrook
DRAYMOND WOULDA BEEN PAUL PRESSY STATUS IN THE 90S
That is a lie.
Only one of those shots was he left wide open. His man is on him for the other 31 points and 9 assists.
why does Draymond numbers suffer when curry and klay are injured?
Draymond played amazing in the 2016 series against Portland and Houston when Steph was injured. Averaged 19-11-8 on elite shooting while maintaining elite defense, closed out Houston then took a 2-1 lead on Portland. How many players in the NBA can hold their team's defense together while also being the primary facilitator and #2 scorer?
Draymond has played well this year too with Steph and Wiggins injured. Warriors had a winning record with Steph out this year even though Wiggins missed most of those games too.
Looks like you're the one who "tried".
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None of those players is their team's primary distributor except for Draymond, and none of them had the impact on team defense that Draymond did.
Also, Silas did play on two different title teams but he came off the bench for the 2nd one.
Sure you could.