They debating on Elon's app who had the better prime: Dennis Rodman or Draymond Green

Who prime was better?

  • Draymond

    Votes: 32 27.4%
  • Rodman

    Votes: 85 72.6%

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Braman

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It's Draymond and it's not really that close. You can make an argument either way for one or the other on defense.

Where the case gets closed is prime Draymond on offense chits all over Rodman. And he did it in the big moments.

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Oh, so stats DO matter when we analyze Draymond? :wtf: I thought his contribution can’t be shown on the box score??

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Well if stats are back on the table you might as well close the thread. Rodman averaged wilt numbers on the boards while Draymond hasn’t averaged more than 8 boards in 5 years.

And offensively he ain’t been doin shyt since 2015. Steph goes down and 29 year old Draymond in his prime gets you 8 ppg. Rodman at the same age was averaging more than that and he was still coming off the bench! :dead:

This Ngga really brought up stats in a pro-Draymond argument :laff:
 

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I think the first instinct for most people is to pick Rodman because he was really great with the Pistons.

He wasn’t as great with the Bulls. But he won championships with them and had the iconic video/gif falling over with Malone. It’s fairly easy to fall in love with Rodman because of his antics on and off the court. And 15-20 rebounds is something easy for the average fan to understand.

What Draymond brought to the Warriors in his prime really isn’t in the numbers, even though he’s had some good statistical seasons. It’s more in his intelligence and defensive versatility.

This isn’t close. Years ago I would have said Rodman. But with more understanding, it’s clearly Draymond. Like, laughably so.
 
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What in the entire fukk

I swear Draymond fans are a poison to sports culture. ‘rangz’ culture personified

And the irony is, Rodman has more rings than Draymond! But when we talk Rodman we don’t lead with ‘RAnGz’. We talk about something he tangibly did and his greatness

Draymond is closer to a robert horry—-a valuable and clutch contributor, but not that grata individually—- than he is to Rodman
Imagine thinking your opinion about Draymond matters when you posted this dumb shyt -
and oh yea, James wiseman 😆 Who’s OVER-qualified for a Draymond role but worst case scenario can do all that in his sleep
What in the entire fukk is right.

Stop talking hoops.

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Surprised people don't realise how superior Draymond is on off-ball defense.

Rodman basically didn't play off-ball defence. He guarded his one guy and that was it. When other players had the ball he hunted rebounds rather than closing defensively. That's why he never averaged even 1 block or 1 steal in any season despite being a defensively minded frontcourt player.

Draymond is an elite team defender. Led the league in steals in 2017 and has averaged 1+ blocks in six seasons. A big reason his rebounds aren't as high as they could be is because he's closing on shooters, filling the lane, and meeting guys at the rim. Plus he orchestrates the Warriors defense as the leader at all times. That was never Rodman's role.

Besides Draymond being a superior scorer, distributor, ballhandler, and team leader, he's also a far better team defender and Rodman ain't even in his league there. They're about even on individual defense, and Rodman is the superior rebounder.
@Rhakim great post!!!

Your thoughts and point cover alot of the things I was gonna speak too....

Rodman was great defender especially in his Pistons days but it's funny his Spurs days are overlooked, he literally sabotaged those spurs teams, if we call Westbrook on Vampire on those Lakers teams Rodman was Count Dracula on those spurs teams but he wins 3 championship on the bulls teams and the rest of history....
 

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Surprised people don't realise how superior Draymond is on off-ball defense.

Rodman basically didn't play off-ball defence. He guarded his one guy and that was it. When other players had the ball he hunted rebounds rather than closing defensively. That's why he never averaged even 1 block or 1 steal in any season despite being a defensively minded frontcourt player.

Draymond is an elite team defender. Led the league in steals in 2017 and has averaged 1+ blocks in six seasons. A big reason his rebounds aren't as high as they could be is because he's closing on shooters, filling the lane, and meeting guys at the rim. Plus he orchestrates the Warriors defense as the leader at all times. That was never Rodman's role.

Besides Draymond being a superior scorer, distributor, ballhandler, and team leader, he's also a far better team defender and Rodman ain't even in his league there. They're about even on individual defense, and Rodman is the superior rebounder.
@Rhakim great post!!!

Your thoughts and point cover alot of the things I was gonna speak too....

Rodman was great defender especially in his Pistons days but it's funny his Spurs days are overlooked, he literally sabotaged those spurs teams, if we call Westbrook on Vampire on those Lakers teams Rodman was Count Dracula on those spurs teams but he wins 3 championship on the bulls teams and he was revered.
 

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Nah the smugness has me weak

‘Draymond, and it’s not exactly particularly close :unimpressed:

*looks at results, 80-20 Rodman* :laff:

Draymond fans let me help you, you’re stuck in 2015. Before KD, yes Draymond had a certain role. They don’t win without him!! But his entire career arch shifted when then they add KD. Draymond became expendable. Draymond green, jamychael green, Tom green, ngga anybody at the 4 they was winning a chip.

Then in this new title run he’s not in the big 3, hell he might not even be in the big 4. Not only is he no longer their most important defender —-that was Andrew Wiggins—-the man single handedly almost cost them the series. Al horford busts his ass for 30. Draymond has a terrible first few games so much so that him simply not fukking up in games 3-6 had peope saying ‘Draymond back’ :heh: meanwhile for the series he shot 33% from the field and 2/16 from 3. 12%. He is the walking definition of ‘he wit us’.
 

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Draymond is probably a more gifted player...
...but Rodman maximized his skillset like none other.

he knew his role and executed it flawlessly

it gets no better :mjlol:


Dennis didn’t maximize shyt on offense lol. And Draymond is probably the definition of maxing out your game.
 

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Dennis didn’t maximize shyt on offense lol. And Draymond is probably the definition of maxing out your game.
thats kind of my point.
anyone else wouldnt even have a sniff of the NBA.

he was such an asset on the defensive end teams worked around him.
 
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