They debating on Elon's app who had the better prime: Dennis Rodman or Draymond Green
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Draymond literally has games where he dominated every faceted of the game
Rodman is not in the same league as Draymond skill wise
Rodman is not in the same league as Draymond skill wise
Paul Pressy's era was the 1980s not the 1990s, but this is a surprisingly non-terrible comp. Pressy was a very good player. His only issue was size, he wasn't nearly as strong and bulky as Draymond so he wasn't able to have the interior impact that Draymond did.
Pressy is basically what Draymond would be if he was stuck in Alex Caruso's body. Draymond is more like a cross between Paul Pressy and Wes Unseld.
The funny thing is, if Rodman played in this era the people who hate Draymond would DESPISE Rodman even worse.
You're telling me that a player who:
1. Doesn't score
2. Ugly, awkward game
3. Takes dirty shots and flops regularly
4. Dresses in women's clothing
5. Bisexual and flamboyant
6. Openly quit on his team during the playoffs
7. Always doing goofy stuff off the court.
Would be celebrated by these posters? They would hate him worse than they hate Draymond, Pat Beverley, and Dillon Brooks combined. There isn't ONE modern player with any of Rodman's qualities who is liked here. Rodman would get so much hate on these boards from so many different directions it would be unreal. They just want to pretend otherwise because they have the 90s nostalgia angle as their sole guide.
You're telling me that a player who:
1. Doesn't score
2. Ugly, awkward game
3. Takes dirty shots and flops regularly
4. Dresses in women's clothing
5. Bisexual and flamboyant
6. Openly quit on his team during the playoffs
7. Always doing goofy stuff off the court.
Would be celebrated by these posters? They would hate him worse than they hate Draymond, Pat Beverley, and Dillon Brooks combined. There isn't ONE modern player with any of Rodman's qualities who is liked here. Rodman would get so much hate on these boards from so many different directions it would be unreal. They just want to pretend otherwise because they have the 90s nostalgia angle as their sole guide.
Draymond the last 5 years is 28%Breh he shot 23% from 3pt for his career, 15% in the playoffs.
Rodman was a 54% free throw shooter, his shot was ass pure and simple.
That ngga better hurry and retire before his stats tank even more. He has a legit shot to end his career averaging less ppg than Dennis Rodman.
Literally the only angle you have is to play up his assists, which would cause you to lose all credibility bc even you know his assists are inflated from just dribble hand offs and Steph/klay work off screens.
Calling Draymond a playmaker bc he got assists is akin to saying James harden was a great defender bc he got steals. So which is it lose the argument or lie to yourself and lose credibility. Tough choice
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This muh'fukka @Boxscoreman still yapping in here?
Imagine thinking your opinion about Draymond matters when you posted this dumb shyt -
Imagine thinking your opinion about Draymond matters when you posted this dumb shyt -
and oh yea, James wisemanWho’s OVER-qualified for a Draymond role but worst case scenario can do all that in his sleep
Draymond the last 5 years is 28%
Why lie? He shot 30% last year and is shooting 33% from 3pt this season, only 2 of his last 10 seasons were 28% or below. And the OP said prime, which all y'all seem to have forgotten about. Draymond shot 39% in 2016 and has shot 37%, 39%, and 41% in three postseasons.
Or are y'all gonna just toss out the OP criteria too?
That ngga better hurry and retire before his stats tank even more. He has a legit shot to end his career averaging less ppg than Dennis Rodman.
Why just make shyt up? He's not even approaching that - Draymond's worst scoring years in the last decade are better than Rodman's average year.
And not only are you ignoring the OP question, but Draymond career playoff average is 12ppg. Rodman's is 6ppg. They're not even close.
You just exposed yourself to everyone who saw you write that. Draymond has been known as an elite passer since he was in college and gets plenty of assists whether Steph/Klay are in the game or not. He wouldn't be leading the Warriors in assists for eight straight seasons if he was just doing "dribble hand offs". Why would the best team in basketball over the last eight years put its fate in the hands of a player who wasn't good at distributing?
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How we defining prime? If it 1 season 2016 Dray is so far ahead of any Rodman it's disrespectful to even compare. He was a top 10 player that season. Robbed of DPOY, most versatile defender in the league, 14/10/7/2/1. Top 3 passing big and 39% from 3 also one of the best spacing bigs. He got the era of unskilled frontcourt bodies like Roy Hibbert outta there with how he sped the game up. You couldn't leave him open.
And he was doin that shyt with or without Steph if nikkas wanna play that card. Prime Rod is Bad Boys Pistons era and he has Zeke and Dumars anyways if nikkas wanna bring up Steph and Klay (then he has MJ and Pippen but he wasn't in his prime then)
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19/11/8/2/1 on 44/39/71 shooting in playoffs and a +75 in those games... WITHOUT Steph when he was hurt and out.
They went 4-2 without Steph those games and close to 5-1 if Harden didn't get a last second game winner in.
Rodman never came close to 2016 Dray. Anyone actually debating that or saying Rodman was ever on that level is lying or don't know WTF they talkin bout.
For extended seasons 2015-19 Draymond still better than any Rodman stretch. Rodman kills him in every aspect of rebounding and was a better post defender. Switch defending is arguable. There's nothing else he did better and most others it's Draymond by a big margin.
And he was doin that shyt with or without Steph if nikkas wanna play that card. Prime Rod is Bad Boys Pistons era and he has Zeke and Dumars anyways if nikkas wanna bring up Steph and Klay (then he has MJ and Pippen but he wasn't in his prime then)
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Draymond Green Stats Without Steph Curry In 2016 Playoffs | StatMuse
Draymond Green averaged 18.8 points, 11.0 rebounds and 8.2 assists in 6 games without Stephen Curry in the 2016 playoffs.
19/11/8/2/1 on 44/39/71 shooting in playoffs and a +75 in those games... WITHOUT Steph when he was hurt and out.
They went 4-2 without Steph those games and close to 5-1 if Harden didn't get a last second game winner in.
Rodman never came close to 2016 Dray. Anyone actually debating that or saying Rodman was ever on that level is lying or don't know WTF they talkin bout.
For extended seasons 2015-19 Draymond still better than any Rodman stretch. Rodman kills him in every aspect of rebounding and was a better post defender. Switch defending is arguable. There's nothing else he did better and most others it's Draymond by a big margin.
I’m looking at career averages, men lie, women lie,…How are people this ignorant?
Rodman only averaged double digits once, in 1988. That year pace was 100 and average scoring was 108ppg. When the league slowed down in the mid-90s, he dropped to 5ppg.
Draymond first matched Rodman at 11ppg in 2015, when pace was 94 and scoring 100ppg. Next year he averaged 14ppg, when pace was 96 and ppg 103. All four years he averaged double-digits the pace and scoring were lower than in Rodman's peak scoring year.
In fact, even this year with pace up, it is STILL lower than it was for Rodman's first three years. The 100.6 pace of Rodman's third season has never been matched again since then.
Rodman's era overall was faster paced than Draymond's, not slower. The only advantage this era has is more threes, and Rodman ain't shooting no threeball in any era.
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Draymond is a better offensive player obviously but not really saying much since he isn't actually a good offensive player and that was never Rodman's role. Rodman put up historic rebounding numbers year after year in the best era of Centers the NBA has ever seen
He was in his late 30's by the time he hit Dallas and LA he was washed
Rodman led the league in rebounding and was All Defense both years in San AntonioWhat was Rodman on Dallas, San Antonio & LA
He was in his late 30's by the time he hit Dallas and LA he was washed
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I know you never watched pistons Rodman nor saw him in college. As Rodman is a better player in every facet incomparison to Draymon.
I watched Drayton in high school to college and pros and kn no day was he ever anywhere near Rodman as a player.
Never.
I went to msu too.
So stop the bullshyt.
Y'all be talking and cognitively never saw none of the shyt y'all ever speak on.
When you got youtube to catch up on what you wanna converse about as well.
Miss me with you watched. If you did. Get ta rant'n. That goes fa all of youse.
As none of y'all worth a damn in any discussion because y'all never know none of the source material from hiphop to sports. Where it is obvious.
over the quarter century I been here and readily noticeable. Most of y'all do not know. wtf y'all are ever talembout.
I will be waiting to read these rants. From y'all which will never exist. As it would easily expose y'all in general never know wtf any of y'all talembout ever.
If you did. You would have real life contemporaries and be a legend anytime yo name brought up.
All you have to do is know the material.
Yet none of y'all do.
Imma still be in the best shape of life and y'all gone be flabby and sick before I ever read any knowledgeable rant from y'all.
Y'all inept as fukk.
When everything is there to ramp too.
Art Barr
Rodman led the league in rebounding and was All Defense both years in San Antonio
He got suspended by the team multiple times and got benched at several points during the playoffs while openly bytching about the team. He also missed a month of one season due to a motorcycle accident that the coaching staff had warned him about. As a result he only played 49 games his 2nd season there, just 26 of them were starts, and the Spurs dealt him for cheap the moment the season was over.
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Rodman Turns Leave of Absence Into Suspension Without Pay
Dennis Rodman was suspended by the San Antonio Spurs for the second time this season Wednesday when he failed to return from a 3 1/2-week paid leave of absence.
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RODMAN LOSES INTEREST, SHOES
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It's strange that people keep claiming his impact was huge in 1998, but then say he was washed in 1999.
And folk forget that he had a lot of problems in Chicago too.
1997 NBA Finals or not, it’s time for the Chicago Bulls to dump Dennis Rodman before Game 5
The biggest thing is it's no longer smart to keep Dennis Rodman on the Chicago Bulls roster. It's time to release him. Before Game 5.
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Bulls star rips Rodman and others after rare playoff loss
CHICAGO (AP) _ Just one loss is all it took to set off Scottie Pippen, who ripped Dennis Rodman for leading the team in technical fouls rather than rebounds and tore into the Chicago Bulls' big men for playing like wimps. Michael Jordan said Chicago shouldn't panic or become a team divided...
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THE N.B.A. PLAYOFFS; Rodman Is a Problem, the Bulls' Problem (Published 1998)
Chicago Bulls hold 2-0 lead over Indiana Pacers in Eastern Conference finals, but Dennis Rodman has played indifferently after Coach Phil Jackson benched him in first game because he arrived late for practice; photo (M)
Rebounding is the most overrated action in all of hoops.
We've got cats who've truly never watched Rodman play talk about his rebounding when the muh'fukka was Westbrook before Westbrook, hunting for rebounds instead of sticking to his defensive assignment. It was a running joke on those Bulls teams, even Phil called him out on it. He got called out for it in SA too.
We've got cats who've truly never watched Rodman play talk about his rebounding when the muh'fukka was Westbrook before Westbrook, hunting for rebounds instead of sticking to his defensive assignment. It was a running joke on those Bulls teams, even Phil called him out on it. He got called out for it in SA too.