There’s a serious war going on right now regarding Kamala Harris blackness and her lineage

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I generally agree with the points that you have made.

However, I think it’s too early in the game, especially as it relates to the current slate of candidates, to have jumped to point 2. It’s too early. I don’t care what Kamala has said at the early stages of her campaign. This is politics. Everything is negotiable. And with the right amount of pressure from influential people you can get someone to change their position. The question is, do we have the “right people” in high places communicating the ADOS message, and if we don’t, how do we get them? I currently don’t think we do. Carnell and Brown are not heavy hitters. No one knows them outside of the Coli and probably now a few journalist catching wind of the movement on social media and their strategy right now should be trying to appeal to black influencers who have the ability to communicate their message on Kamala’s level. Coates was good start. But it’s not enough.

I’m concerned with cohesiveness first and the ability to get all parties working together to get what they want. You have to work at it. And then you have to work at it some more. That is the reality of politics. If everything has been done to try to make that happen and it doesn’t, then we can proceed to the nuclear option of upending the Democratic Party. But we’re not even close to being at that stage yet. At least I don’t think so.

In these early stages, we still have time to make that appeal. However, you need the right people with the right amount of influence to carry the message because the current coterie of ADOS individuals ain’t it.

I’m not the biggest fan of Kamala, but I do know she’s on track to getting a big share of the black vote. My line of thinking is how can we work this with those that we know are going to support her regardless. And can we work this with those that we know who are going to have her ear in this campaign.

Yvette and Brown should be doing a marketing campaign around HBCUs especially the heavy hitters. They should also be targeting BGLOs at their conventions. Those are the people that have the platform to influence this issue in Kamala’s campaign. But they should just not stop there.

I think it’s tricky because the term AA has encountered a reappropriation of sort over time. The necessity of its creation stemmed from the question of BLACK AMERICAN identity and us grappling with our history of slavery and who we were beyond that ancestrally. It was a term directed at reclaiming our deeper roots beyond our existence in American Slavery, Jim Crow, Civil rights etc. During its popularisation in the late 80s that was its original etymological function.

However we aren’t a xenophobic/exclusivist people or culture so there’s a very Pan-Africanist acceptance of black immigrants who don’t come from that original lineage and by the time they are second generation Americans, one wouldn’t necessarily resist them blending into being “African Americans” as a whole. It becomes difficult tho because that term was originally used to describe our lineage and now it’s used in a much looser way and that presents unforeseen, rather interesting socio-political issues (like the one we’re having considering Kamala’s candidacy).

It also begs larger political questions like, if someone doesn’t come from that ADOS lineage, can they truly represent those interests effectively on a political stage? And even more interestingly, if not, then what do we do?
what alot of people have to consider.. is thecoli.com isnt very steeped in reality..

alot of this divisive talk, isnt something you hear around Black folks.. realistically, if majority of people had to show their face.. or, say most of these WS talking points w/a face attached to it.. im sure their online sentiments would be nowhere near the things you see here/online.. :francis:

remember when Jesse Jackson tried sh!tting on Obama, for instance..? alot of Black folks, wasnt with that sh!t.. if anything, it made people fukk with Obama more.. and, Jesse came off as a hater..

him juelzing, and attempting to explain- was even more embarrassing.. :snoop:



im personally, just watching alot of sh!t unfold.. its interesting to say the least.. and, in due time- alot of it will all make sense..
 

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what alot of people have to consider.. is thecoli.com isnt very steeped in reality..

alot of this divisive talk, isnt something you hear around Black folks.. realistically, if majority of people had to show their face.. or, say most of these WS talking points w/a face attached to it.. im sure their online sentiments would be nowhere near the things you see here/online.. :francis:

remember when Jesse Jackson tried sh!tting on Obama, for instance..? alot of Black folks, wasnt with that sh!t.. if anything, it made people fukk with Obama more.. and, Jesse came off as a hater..

him juelzing, and attempting to explain- was even more embarrassing.. :snoop:



im personally, just watching alot of sh!t unfold.. its interesting to say the least.. and, in due time- alot of it will all make sense..

Good ol messy Jesse, I forgot that happened.. so embarrassing :russ:
 
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Good ol messy Jesse, I forgot that happened.. so embarrassing :russ:
ironically, with the Jesse scenario.. thats exactly how alot of White folks in office, and even his political allies- felt about Trump..

but, they all stayed on code when it came time to get sh!t poppin..



 

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If a Democrat is not serious about Reparations then they don't deserve the African-American vote plain and simple. We need to hold the Democrats accountable by having them lose due to not getting the African-American vote.

There is a Democrat who has pledged aggressive support of reparations: Marianne Williamson.

However, her attempt to inject reparations into the last televised debate was abruptly cut off not by Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders or Pete.Buttigieg -- she was stopped by: Kamala Harris.

ADOS currently have a candidate in the race willing to fight for the issue.

Now, will the community come out to support Williamson as she advocates a push for reparations?
 

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I won’t be getting “on-code” this time if there’s no black agenda/policy and the candidate isn’t serious about reparations. I did that for Obama, and I’m not doing it again. MW is getting my vote in the primaries.

My fiancé isn’t too happy about it, as she’s a “get Trump out at all cost” type, but it is what it is. I still plan on taking part in the election process, though. I doubt my lil bro was going to vote anyways, and my mom and pop are MW or Warren. My pop is moreso Warren, because he has now taken on helping with my bro’s student loans, but he’s on the black agenda wave as well.
 

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There is a Democrat who has pledged aggressive support of reparations: Marianne Williamson.

However, her attempt to inject reparations into the last televised debate was abruptly cut off not by Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders or Pete.Buttigieg -- she was stopped by: Kamala Harris.

ADOS currently have a candidate in the race willing to fight for the issue.

Now, will the community come out to support Williamson as she advocates a push for reparations?
I feel you, You think Williamson has a realistic chance tho?
 

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when its all said & done- alot of Black folks gonna get on code when its time to vote for Harris..

we saw it happen with Obama.. and, for whatever reasons it may be- alot of folks aint trying to see that happen again.. :mjpls:
On code for someone who said she won’t do shyt for Black people
Ok
 

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I feel you, You think Williamson has a realistic chance tho?

After Trump, anybody has a chance if they have the right game plan.

If the community supports Williamson's reparations advocacy, that will have an impact on how
the other candidates pivot on the issue.

But if the "black vote" rallies behind candidates that demonstrate either vague or invisible support for
reparations, then expect the issue to disappear soon from the political radar.
 

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She is going to get the larger share of the Black middle and professional class vote.

Howard University is going to put weight behind her so they can make the claim that they can count an alumna as President. And I’m sure other HBCUs will as well from the angle that an HBCU graduate made it to the Office of the Presidency.

The AKAs and the rest of the BGLOs are going to put weight behind her so they can claim a President among their ranks.

And the Links, and by default, the Boule, are going to put weight behind her so they can make similar claims.

Obama didn’t come from their ranks. Harris, at least on paper, does. So she is going to get a lot of support from the HBCU/BGLO crowd.

NYT just came out with how Kamala’s “secret weapon” are the AKAs that she got rallying behind her.

Kamala Harris’s Secret Weapon: The Sisterhood of Alpha Kappa Alpha

Lots of black professional clicques got stakes in her presidency, something that Obama didn’t have.
This in away will be her exact undoing.
Having the HBCU crowd who is only at most 20% of the Black population doesn’t mean you have the entire Black vote.

Her being linked to them is exactly why she feels she can ignore working Class ADOS just like her Boule Cliques do.

Some people love to hype up the dumbest shyt.
You’d rather brag about an AKA making it to office instead of rejoicing and uplifting a candidate that has a solid Black agenda.
 
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There is a Democrat who has pledged aggressive support of reparations: Marianne Williamson.

However, her attempt to inject reparations into the last televised debate was abruptly cut off not by Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders or Pete.Buttigieg -- she was stopped by: Kamala Harris.

ADOS currently have a candidate in the race willing to fight for the issue.

Now, will the community come out to support Williamson as she advocates a push for reparations?
I won’t be getting “on-code” this time if there’s no black agenda/policy and the candidate isn’t serious about reparations. I did that for Obama, and I’m not doing it again. MW is getting my vote in the primaries.

My fiancé isn’t too happy about it, as she’s a “get Trump out at all cost” type, but it is what it is. I still plan on taking part in the election process, though. I doubt my lil bro was going to vote anyways, and my mom and pop are MW or Warren. My pop is moreso Warren, because he has now taken on helping with my bro’s student loans, but he’s on the black agenda wave as well.
just to be clear on what im reading: so, because someone mentioned something about reparations.. and, clearly has no chance of going very far- if were being realistic.. their getting your vote..

in other words.. if Trump supports reparations(which, he possibly could.. seeing thats all it takes.. and, he doesnt have to deliver, ie: the wall... just some simple lip-service)- he can have your vote, too..



 
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On code for someone who said she won’t do shyt for Black people
Ok
i mean.. you was ready to vote for Hilary even if she called you a "n!gger".. :mjpls:

Saying ppl aren’t voting for Democrats because they call ppl names is dumb...Hilary could have called me a ****** and I still would have voted for her in the primary because of the other side:francis:
 
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