There’s a serious war going on right now regarding Kamala Harris blackness and her lineage

[xoxodede]

People are really letting racist whites define blackness for them.

No, you are. Black is race. But, in American - Black American/AA is an ethnicity/lineage as well. My Black is not your Black just cause of skincolor/race.

Black Americans are again saying we are a unique ethnicity/lineage/culture. It's not something where Black people from all over the world came and made. Therefore we all are all the same. It was already made and created based off our ancestors experience/life in this country. Other Black people from all over the world came to America and contributed to it - but not all of it -- not most of it. It's shared experiences -- but it's not "The Culture" like people like to boast.

Black Americans are saying that we are a unique ethnicity/lineage based on our ancestors and family experience in America - before it was America -- and their experience after Emancipation, Reconstruction, Jim Crow and even today.

Again:

 

[xoxodede]

Southern blacks and Northern blacks have distinct cultural differences.

Sorta -- not really though. Black Culture (American Culture) descends and rooted in The South/Black Belt.

It's just expressed in different ways - but the root is The South.

What cultural differences do you see as "distinct" from North and the South?

You do know about the two waves of the Great Migration right?





You also know that most Black Immigrants who immigrated in during the 1920's -- went to the North when they came -- which of course after a certain period had to influence the already Black Culture (American) that was already created/on-going. I don't deny that.

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

What Trump Jr did is play the Birther card. Questioning if she is really an American citizen.

What ADOS has done (we was on Kamala's neck since 2017!!) is just point out that Harris does not share our LINEAGE. We never questioned her citizenship status.

We have identified that she is not for Black Americans not due to some conspiracy theories but due TO HER OWN RECORD AS PROSECUTOR AND ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

Don't conflate the right wings new Birther angle against Kamala with ADOS reasons for not supporting her.

Tone and Yvette have to make this clear and not look like our criticisms of Kamala are the same as these Birthers.

Their was a thread not too long ago where Yvette was begging White evangelicals aka "birthers, maga, alt right, Trumpers" for assistance. She needs to choose her allies better. Also it's ok to have your issues with Harris, I have my own. Its just I have more issues with the Trump Klan and it's administration. Like I said Trump jr. Got what he wanted smh

 

[Concerning VLoLence]

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Studies have also shown that immigrant blacks outpace whites as selective schools as well. The conclusion was that it had more to do with resources of immigrant blacks than anything else.

That falls in line with trends showing well of families children are more likely to end up in college.

I'm not sure this has anything to do with race as much as it's an indicator that college admissions aren't merely based on merit and showing that blacks make up much of the core poor demographic in this country.

You didn't read the source l provided

Then made up your own source w/ conclusion as a counter argument

#MakeitUp ass

 

[Stone Cold]

Dede you know I respect you alot. You are one of my favorite posters on here but can you find me a clip or quote of Harris saying that she is ADOS? She is a black race woman in America. She looks like a black race woman and she described the plight of a black race woman to Joe Biden at the debate. Me, you or Trump jr have not walked in her shoes but I'm certain me and you can understand the she described. I'm not claiming that she is ADOS but I'm not going to discredit her blackness.

She’s ADOSO

 

[I Really Mean It]

at some of you contorting yourselves in such an extreme fashion to justify calling Kamala black.

 

[Ya?]

People are making this about everything else but what it's really about. This is about a White race American man questioning the experiences and authenticity of a Black race American woman. Putting her policies and likability aside, what Donald Jr did was problematic and he knows it because he deleted the tweet. Unless Harris is claiming she is ADOS, I dont see what she did wrong. She only talked about her plight as a Black race woman in the USA. She has a right to do that even if she is unlikable or has policies you do not agree with.

She isn’t black. Like damn!!!

 

[xoxodede]

Dede you know I respect you alot. You are one of my favorite posters on here but can you find me a clip or quote of Harris saying that she is ADOS? She is a black race woman in America. She looks like a black race woman and she described the plight of a black race woman to Joe Biden at the debate. Me, you or Trump jr have not walked in her shoes but I'm certain me and you can understand the she described. I'm not claiming that she is ADOS but I'm not going to discredit her blackness.

Thank you -- and you know you are one of mine as well. And I highly respect your opinion.

She never states she is. That's not the issue. She can be Black (race) but she is not Black American/AA ethnicity/lineage/culture.

The issue is White America -- and even some Black people think "Black" means ADOS/Black American/AA. They want to place anyone who is Black -- with Black skin -- throw them in to our ethnicity/culture -- when skincolor, discrimination, racism -- or living around ADOS/Blacks -- does not gain one entrance.

I am looking at this as ethnicity/lineage.

That is why Trumpsters are saying she is not "American Black" -- meaning her ancestors were enslaved in the US (Colonial/Antebellum/Confederate States). She does not share our story, lineage, history, experience -- or culture.

They think -- like many Black people apparently -- just being Black and have Black skin and dealing with racism and being seen as "Black" -- - makes you AA/Black American -- and we are saying NO -- she is not apart of our ethnicity/culture/lineage.

She is using "well I'm Black" -- and saying that in America - on a public stage -- Black Americans who look at being Black as an ethnicity/lineage in America -- are like Nah. You not -- and you can't speak for us.

Now, African-American/Black American means anyone who is Black. That's the issue.

A Irish, Italian, White Jew -- are now seen as White. But, their ethnicity/culture/lineage is Irish, Italian, Sicilian, Jewish. They are still now seen as White though.

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

She isn’t black. Like damn!!!

Says who? Trump?

 

[Ya?]

All of this is true, but she still grew up with the black experience because she's black.

Racism didn't overlook her because her dad is Jamaican or because her mom is Indian.

She ended up at an HBCU and joined a black sorority.

I doubt you'd find much distinction between her and any other black woman who followed the same path.

All Jamaicans are not black.

 

[Ya?]

Kamala Harris is BLACK, anybody disputing that is a goddamn IMBECILE to the fullest!!!!


This is why we got problems...too many dumbasses trying to be intellectuals and don't know WTF they're talking about .


You can see clearly she's BLACK from her features alone!!!


fukking idiots .

I love how this racial identities that you guys force are always on women. She isn’t black and you are bigger idiot to double down.

The point is, should one that has no rooted history in a black American history always be mouthpiece of a collective? Even when their agenda does not even align?

 

[Emoryal]

They are challenging her fathers blackness because he is half white. Halle Berry is half white yet she is a descendant of chattel slavery here in America through her father. If they start handing out reparations is Halle going to be denied her blackness or what rightfully belongs to her? Since people are making this about reparations when it's really about racist white people not minding their business

There is no such thing as blackness and I thought they were questioning her being black by way of her father. And wether you want to admit it or not white people will have an influence wether or not black people get reparations don't know why you

 

[Ya?]

Her father is actually a mulatto. I fail to see how Kamala who is only a 1/4 black is being considered black.

Cause she is a woman that’s why. None of these men would be doubling down if it was a man.

 

[Ya?]

I get that but here's the thing. What does that have to do with Trump telling a black race woman that she has no right to share what shared at the debate? People are legitimately c00ning for reparations in here. You can disagree with her stances and policies and you dont have to like or vote for her but I'm not going to let Trump jr. Play me like a puppet. I got no strings to hold me down to make me laugh or make me frown.

Her mom is Indian, her dad is mixed race how does that equate black.

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

There is no such thing as blackness

Trump jr. disagrees with you and he's the expert on blackness