Broke Wave
The GOAT
Bruh... Try to rationalize it all day... But its not going to happen
the one with the big corporate money... Either Rubio or Walker. nobody else
There is absolutely no chance Jeb Bush loses the 2016 presidential election
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Trump polling higher in FL right now,
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Trump polling higher in FL right now,
From his time as governor I mean. Unemployment, growth, etc
This is still America, and money is God. Negative ads sure read like lightning from above sometimes
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Jeb has raised nearly twice as much money as any other nominee from either party though.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/election-2016-campaign-money-race.html
I'd be surprised if he even has a campaign manager by the beginning of 2016 with all the idiotic statements he's made. The damage has already been done.
Broke Wave
The GOAT
Its very very early with regards to fundraising. He will be the VP IMO but most of the money starts pouring in at the end of the primaries. They still have to decide who gets the wallstreet money, Koch money etc. lots of money to be distributed.
I think you'll be surprised then breh
U thinkin of Puerto Ricans. Central American Latinos are hella religious n drive pickup trucks. Dont sleep :mido:
i think democrats are winning 2016 easy but i have a lot of fun doing this 270towin shyt so im gonna try to create a situation where the gop takes it.For anybody who thinks the GOP can win -
2012 Presidential Election Interactive Map
That's the electoral map from last election. Please enlighten us on what states you think they're likely to win that would give them the 270.
Even if I spot them Florida and Ohio, they still lose. Hell, I can give them Florida, Ohio, and VA (GOP winning all these is a real stretch) and they still don't come out on top.
i think colorado can potentially vote red in 2016. iowa likely will (they voted for that ernst psycho in the senate election), so ill put those states in.
i think presidential elections are generally decided not by policy but by image (if a candidate flip-flopped, if theyre seen as too weak, etc.), especially in politically stratified and midwestern states like wisconsin, ohio, and iowa. it is very important not to be seen as an insider in these states, which is mainly why obama (a little known young senator) beat mcccain (a washington insider) and romney (who flip-flopped hard on health care). its also why bush beat kerry (was seen as an insider who flip flopped on funding for the iraq war).
because of this i think jeb bush, widely seen as an insider who has flip flopped on damn near every stance of his has very little chance of taking the election. in any circumstance. even against hillary, who's pretty much just an insider who has flip flopped but has more name recognition.
scott walker, however, isnt super well known outside of wisconsin, and hasnt flip flopped really on anything (even though his positions are very conservative). he is largely seen as kind of goofy yet down to earth...the perfect type of person to get middle america's votes.
so if iowa and colorado go red, and it ends up being say walker v clinton, i can see states like ohio, wisconsin, maybe new hampshire voting for him. hes still behind but if flordia votes for walker too he takes it. 278-260
the percentage difference in ohio and florida was extremely close in 2012, and it isnt impossible to see these states voting for a republican candidate, as long as hes seen as strong and not someone who flip flops. hillary would still probably win but if walker played it perfectly he would have a shot
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
They don't vote based on religion though. And there isn't a sharp contrast in religiosity between Hillary and Jeb.
White people LOVE the Bush family. That old money, almost royal history, family success etc... don't get it twisted. Jeb got at least the nomination wrapped up.
Little off topic; I think the "blue wall" of electoral states is overplayed a bit. It's not gonna take much to get turnout for democrats down enough in states like Iowa, Virginia, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Florida for a republican to win. A negatively viewed candidate like Hiliary's vs a GOP candidate who soft sells social issues, like John Kasich, could win those states.
The losing culture war really is an opportunity for the GOP I think. Democrats have defined themselves on social issues for so long that they're economic talking points are thin. A republican who can avoid saying dumb shyt about women, gays, blacks, Hispanics, is a real contender.
The losing culture war really is an opportunity for the GOP I think. Democrats have defined themselves on social issues for so long that they're economic talking points are thin. A republican who can avoid saying dumb shyt about women, gays, blacks, Hispanics, is a real contender.
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
This is why the RNC is pulling their hair out about Trump. It's also why I think Jeb's best strategy is to just fall back a bit and let the circus play itself out. Stay in the top 3, be inoffensive, continue to hammer his talking points and survive. This is a marathon, not a sprint.
Totally agree. He needs to remain competitive till January, let trump and a couple others collapse, and then start into superpac ads dropping haymakers on people.
Trump has made Walker totally unelectable though. That's the biggest story that no one has touched on about this. Walker is now swimming in Trumps wake even more than Cruz. He keeps agreeing and going to bat for trumps xenophobia. Walker wouldn't have a shot to take 35% of the Hispanic vote even with Rubio on his ticket at this point.