I had a convo with Brown Pride and they are convinced that the bible says unbaptized children do enter heaven. Even though there are several passages in the bible that you have to know Jesus in order to get into haven.
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I had a convo with Brown Pride and they are convinced that the bible says unbaptized children do enter heaven. Even though there are several passages in the bible that you have to know Jesus in order to get into haven.
You might be right.
And if you read more into it, the Catholic church is the one who introuduced the idea of hell into Christianity.
Hell is a pagan leftover from Greek/Roman mythology. But the catholics wanted to build a "super religion" that pleased everyone both Christian and those of other pagan religions. The word Catholic means "universal"
Theres no mention of people in the old testament going to an eternal torment of hell when they died. They were just in a "place of the dead" or something like that.
Nowhere did I say it was funny.You clearly didnt read my post.
Do that before you speak, please.
Thanks.
You sure did delete the "lol" and the drake smiley after my reply though.
Making light of children drowning and dying on a nice saturday morning?
Its so demonic, friend.
If you go further, you will find hell is not even real.
Not only was it a pagan creation, but the original(well the supposed copies of the originals since no originals exist) text never mention it.
And this is from a christian site.
16. Hebrew and Greek words mistranslated to mean Hell
But wouldnt it be a GREAT tactic by the powers that be to keep people in line?
You sure did delete the "lol" and the drake smiley after my reply though.
Making light of children drowning and dying on a nice saturday morning?
Its so demonic, friend.
Saturday afternoon
And there was no Drake smiley...stop lying. The "lol" was replace by the
Works better. But you must have clicked on the thread as soon as I posted it b/c I edited it before I left the pageyeah being that Jesus was Jewish I do not think he would endorse the concept of hell.
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kids in the bible were pretty much viewed as property (see the treatment of job's kids or that baby killing plague against the egyptians), and baptism was for people old enough to make commitments. that's some ancient semite stuff, and we are not ancient semites, so attitudes toward kids no longer line up with the bible
dennis roadman
nuclear war in my bag
Matthew 18:10
"See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven."
also rabbinical judaism details Gehenna, a place of punishment where those that didn't abide by Mosaic law on earth have to atone. it's temporary hell, in essence.
now who wants to argue about how many angels i can get to dance on the head of a pin?
"See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven."
also rabbinical judaism details Gehenna, a place of punishment where those that didn't abide by Mosaic law on earth have to atone. it's temporary hell, in essence.
now who wants to argue about how many angels i can get to dance on the head of a pin?
Mr. Somebody
Friend Of A Friend
Matthew 19:14
But Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven.”
Luke 18:17 "Truly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it.”
Matthew 18:14 'Your Father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should be lost.'"
But Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven.”
Luke 18:17 "Truly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it.”
Matthew 18:14 'Your Father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should be lost.'"
Brown_Pride
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yeah me and bud went back and forth on this and ultimately we can fall back on a few scriptures and what is told to David when he loses his son. We can also fall back on the nature of God.
That nature as I understand it is one of a father. Both loving but stern capable of love and punishment.
Part of the struggle people have with this is they try to view a very unwieldy concept through their own pea brain type eyes. Assume for a second God does exist. If you believe this you believe he's all knowing, all poweful...He's god right?
Now let's assume that God knows what's in the heart of each child and how each child will turn out. Could God judge them on that? Possibly, but we don't know. God judges that's one of the things he does. He's also just. Given that then I'm more inclined to believe he handle each soul justly...whatever that may be.
The concept of hell now is a crazy subject. I'm not entirely sold on the whole fire and brimstone thing but as my plan are to avoid whatever deviation of hell exist i've not really studied the matter in to much depth. I've heard arguments that Hell is a place devoid of God and his love
That nature as I understand it is one of a father. Both loving but stern capable of love and punishment.
Part of the struggle people have with this is they try to view a very unwieldy concept through their own pea brain type eyes. Assume for a second God does exist. If you believe this you believe he's all knowing, all poweful...He's god right?
Now let's assume that God knows what's in the heart of each child and how each child will turn out. Could God judge them on that? Possibly, but we don't know. God judges that's one of the things he does. He's also just. Given that then I'm more inclined to believe he handle each soul justly...whatever that may be.
The concept of hell now is a crazy subject. I'm not entirely sold on the whole fire and brimstone thing but as my plan are to avoid whatever deviation of hell exist i've not really studied the matter in to much depth. I've heard arguments that Hell is a place devoid of God and his love
Broke Wave
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The concept of hell now is a crazy subject. I'm not entirely sold on the whole fire and brimstone thing but as my plan are to avoid whatever deviation of hell exist i've not really studied the matter in to much depth. I've heard arguments that Hell is a place devoid of God and his love
Well you better be sold....hell is real.
God is a mercy God but he is also a just God.
Hell is very real.