Thecoli's favorite youtube feminist has made yet another documentary. This time about bucks and wenches

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He's said in previous videos that he doesn't cover the divestors because they are a small group, and covering them just makes them seem bigger than they are. But he has addressed divestors, he has a whole 30 min segment in this video about the black manosphere


Also it doesn't sound like you don't think he doesn't hold women accountable as you listed times he mentioned things but it sounds like you don't like how he doesn't go hard on women.

Yes I mean if the Divestors are too small to roast then especially since he says IR is small the Passport Bros and the SYSBM "movements" are too small to roast too.

Yes I also have a problem with the easy track of cricizing Black Men and giving Black women a pass literally all media does this so he's not saying or doing anything revolutionary.

The fact that he kinda gave low key props to Umar shows that he agrees with more Black Men's though than he lets on.
 

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Yes I mean if the Divestors are too small to roast then especially since he says IR is small the Passport Bros and the SYSBM "movements" are too small to roast too.

Yes I also have a problem with the easy track of cricizing Black Men and giving Black women a pass literally all media does this so he's not saying or doing anything revolutionary.

The fact that he kinda gave low key props to Umar shows that he agrees with more Black Men's though than he lets on.
He gave more time to the divestors in the video I posted than he did to passport bros in this video.

Its cool if your problem is that he doesn't bring it up more, but I don't think hes going to say anything different than he said in that video.
 

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@WIA20XX already said most of what I agree with.

The one thing I would like to add though is FD dances around the idea that swirling is a discussion that mostly takes place internal to the community and is directed by black women and I wish he would’ve touched on this because ultimately, there is a discussion about the conditions of black folks under white supremacy that drive the existential anger about black men dating out.

he could’ve talked about how black women drive the discussion because of the scarcity of eligible black men (he kinda talks about it in his video)…

He could’ve talked about how black women feel some type of way about black men dating out because men can use dating out as a means to escape the black experience in a way that black women cannot (I know some on TheColi might not agree with that).

He could’ve talked about how the Internet is creating a more shared culture and with the advent of hip-hop, black men are benefiting as essentially de facto cultural ambassadors and thus have more access to non-black partners.

Could’ve talked about how Internet porn is shaping the sexual appetites of young black men causing them out.

Could’ve talked about how coupled everything else I mentioned , proximity to whiteness shapes young black boys in a way where they are more likely to date out and this has even more harmful ramifications as these young black boys are probably outpacing their black Peers in educational and financial attainment because of their proximity to white people and the resources that come with whiteness.

I just feel like they were different directions this conversation could’ve gone but I feel like he either didn’t think of them or didn’t want to push buttons by doing the research and interviews to get to this data/conclusions. I think it’s funny that he actually didn’t even interview people who dated out in this video…. That’s actually one of my biggest problems with him is he doesn’t interview the people who are the targets of his dressdowns.
 

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He gave more time to the divestors in the video I posted than he did to passport bros in this video.

Its cool if your problem is that he doesn't bring it up more, but I don't think hes going to say anything different than he said in that video.
That's the problem Black Men are held super accountable for their failures but when it's time to check the women.... crickets

He and everyone else criticizes the Manosphere yet low key people agree with their basic talking points.

Going back to Umar homie admitted that he agreed with him but called him out for being the big ol'pander bear that he is by not talking about Black boys being funneled into special education programs, being declared Hyperactive and being force fed Ritalin

Like Umar you can and should blame the white people who control our education system but no one has smoke for Black mothers allowing their sons to be sent to the School to Prison pipeline.

So Umar knows where his bread is buttered so he talks about "bunny hopping". Same with F.D. used to be a teacher he noticed problems with Black Boy students but fails to call out the mothers

Same old same old the enemies of Black Love are white people and....Bunny hoppers.

The shyt about Divestors was a fig leaf for people who say he didn't address it he mentioned it and kept it moving.


I low key agree with him that Divestors on youtube is not an issue ( again he doesn't feel the same about even small Manosphere channels while not addressing intellectuals like B.G.S Imbor and even credenteld Men like Dr. T. Hassan Johnson) But diverstors are crazy but swirlers are way more influential and even though he used tje term swirl he barely mentioned it again calling out bed bucks but not swirlers.

That's the problem with all Black Media today criticizing Black Men as a whole without critcizing Black women. It would be better to just say that IR is basically a myth and leave it at that. If youre gonna criticize the Men with bad haircuts who date white women you got to call out the women with the wierd weaves that deal with white guys.
 
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He talks largely about how rare interracial relationships actually are despite the media putting them everywhere and he calls out divestors and people who make swirling their whole personality.

Basically "if you wanna date out, go ahead but don't talk shyt about black men or women to justify your actions"
i was talking about this very thing with a woman im just starting to date....she believes that a majority of black men date out i told her thats not the case at all...it just seems that way because it stands out to her....
 
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@WIA20XX already said most of what I agree with.

The one thing I would like to add though is FD dances around the idea that swirling is a discussion that mostly takes place internal to the community and is directed by black women and I wish he would’ve touched on this because ultimately, there is a discussion about the conditions of black folks under white supremacy that drive the existential anger about black men dating out.

he could’ve talked about how black women drive the discussion because of the scarcity of eligible black men (he kinda talks about it in his video)…

He could’ve talked about how black women feel some type of way about black men dating out because men can use dating out as a means to escape the black experience in a way that black women cannot (I know some on TheColi might not agree with that).

He could’ve talked about how the Internet is creating a more shared culture and with the advent of hip-hop, black men are benefiting as essentially de facto cultural ambassadors and thus have more access to non-black partners.

Could’ve talked about how Internet porn is shaping the sexual appetites of young black men causing them out.

Could’ve talked about how coupled everything else I mentioned , proximity to whiteness shapes young black boys in a way where they are more likely to date out and this has even more harmful ramifications as these young black boys are probably outpacing their black Peers in educational and financial attainment because of their proximity to white people and the resources that come with whiteness.

I just feel like they were different directions this conversation could’ve gone but I feel like he either didn’t think of them or didn’t want to push buttons by doing the research and interviews to get to this data/conclusions. I think it’s funny that he actually didn’t even interview people who dated out in this video…. That’s actually one of my biggest problems with him is he doesn’t interview the people who are the targets of his dressdowns.
very well put breh....

especially this part:

Could’ve talked about how coupled everything else I mentioned , proximity to whiteness shapes young black boys in a way where they are more likely to date out and this has even more harmful ramifications as these young black boys are probably outpacing their black Peers in educational and financial attainment because of their proximity to white people and the resources that come with whiteness.

i think the above is one of the main reasons that black women have a problem with it....and notice it...its the brehs who are doing well financially that are with WW that bother them the most....regular brehs making $40k...they dont care if they get with ww...
 

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Dudes don't like FD Signifier because he is liberal and an LGBTQ ally and even I don't always agree with him but when he hits he hits hard.
Nobody is really roasting him in this thread but nikkas is just pointing out his pander bear talking points.

shyt never works women don't even listen to "liberals". unless they're dunking on Black Men.

I haven't heard shyt from that other nikka who's name I forgot who wrote the Black Men are the white people of Black People

have you?
 

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One other point Youtube Feminists as opposed to swirlers and Divestors love to literally utlitize their own facts, when backing up their claims they use other feminist scholars like Dr. Kimberle Crenshaw and bell hooks. Miss hooks has gone to glory and Dr. Crenshaw ain't going to Crenshaw or coming on youtube but Dr. Johnson ( the other Dr. Johnson) T. Hassan Johnson is right there. Why not give him a call?

Green Gorrilla did a masterful countrpoint to Dr Crenshaw. BGS is probably the world's formost authority at least on youtube about the Moynihan Report, the Moynihan scissors ( that probably led to the epidemic of Black women scissoring each other) and the works of Black Sociologists like E. Franklin Frazier but no one ever talks to them to get a counterpoint to the Black Men failed, Black Men destroyed the Black comminity narrative.
 

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That idiot actually said Farrakhan shaped the thinking of the black community :mjlol:
nikka basically accused Farrakhan of being a Con man despite all the good work that Farrkhan put in and he's a nikka just talking on the internet.

He acknoledged that he had to walk light because people would move on Farrahkan's say so wheras he knows that the sheas that he rides so hard for wpuldn't acknowledge his existance.
 
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