The WWE did everything and yet still suffering record low numbers

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Brought Lashley back and pushed Kofi over him...dudbt do Lashley vs Lesnar? Disgraceful.

They held Sasha back when she was scorching hot in 2016..she was endorsed by everyone..Austin more than anyone and they still had Charlotte and Bliss go over to such a degree that both blondes dont even matter in today's grand scheme.
 

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Alot of things are wrong..they brought Rocky back but tried to FORCE Cena as a good guy and a underdog

They had CM Punk strike gold with the pipe bomb stuff but they FORCED Nash and Cripple H in the process....lol. Craziness.

They basically had to be threatened by fans to go all the way with Daniel Bryan...they turned on 3 straight PPVs and finally listened.

WTF was Sheamus given 3 title reigns for? UTTER SCUST.

Charlotte failed over and over again yet they gave her a undefeated ppv record gimmick and marginalized over acts like Sasha and Asuka...made the built up to this year's main event absolutely ridiculous when they had the Rumble winner go through hoops and then BROUGHT Asuka down a 2nd str8 year:laugh:

AJ Styles had a long reign but it was boring as fukk.

Lesnar is comically lazy...little odd squashes and segments disguised as main events.

Tag team wrestling still being buried for no reason

Nexus was cut off at the knees to give Cena his wins back..basically what anyone always knew would of happened if prime Nwo ever came across 98-99 Austin.

Botched 90% of Reigns main event run.
 

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Brought Lashley back and pushed Kofi over him...dudbt do Lashley vs Lesnar? Disgraceful.

They held Sasha back when she was scorching hot in 2016..she was endorsed by everyone..Austin more than anyone and they still had Charlotte and Bliss go over to such a degree that both blondes dont even matter in today's grand scheme.

Kofi didn’t get pushed over him. Kofi was pushed pretty much by accident (similar to Bryan....) dude to Mustafa Ali’s injury, and the WWE just rode that momentum (finally). Neither were ever on the same brand to even get pushed over one another. Lashley got screwed cause they brought him in with no hype at all, no build or vignettes, and for weeks they wouldn’t even allow him to do the Spear nor Powerslam cause of Reigns, Shane, Charlotte, and Braun:mjlol:they had him using a delayed vertical duplex as his finisher :laff::hhh:
 
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Kofi didn’t get pushed over him. Kofi was pushed pretty much by accident (similar to Bryan....) dude to Mustafa Ali’s injury, and the WWE just rode that momentum (finally). Neither were ever on the same brand to even get pushed over one another. Lashley got screwed cause they brought him in with no hype at all, no build or vignettes, and for weeks they wouldn’t even allow him to do the Spear nor Powerslam cause of Reigns, Shane, Charlotte, and Braun:mjlol:they has him using a delayed vertical duplex as his finisher :laff::hhh:
I know..Kofi is a mistake..which makes it all the more shameful. Then Bryan had to make it right behind the scenes..all because Ali got injured.
 

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They pushed too much tv and too big of a commitment onto fans. They also never fixed the problem with their brand split.

It just isn't setup to retain fans or add new ones.

And that's before even getting into the terrible booking decisions.
 

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We like to shyt on Corny but dude is right. The dirtsheets expose the business. Remember back in the days where that shyt was legit foreign to the human eye. Now you have folks casually talking about kayfabe, going over, and all sorts of shyt that would make Ole Anderson unload the clip on a high school indie wrestling gym. Look, we all know the shyt is fake but breh, can we at least keep it that way :mjtf:? Why must wrestlers cater to the audience that don't mind bumming a promotion on an illegal site? These are the same fans that would think a hate crime is a work:beli:. Maybe it's time to grow the fukk up or just follow the Lucha Underground blueprint, yet look where they are at :aicmon:. DDT trying to restore the feeling but folks will continue to watch a product that will shyt on them off GP, yet they will keep watching the shyt. We got a buffet table of wrestling but the promoters still tone deaf to whats suppose to sell in 2019. Bottom line, wrestling is dead and it will be exposed once WWE end up enduring a fall of epic proportions. I know folks want the promotion to fall like the ball but trust when I say this...be careful of what you wish for. Not even AEW can ressurect the feeling of whats about to happen in 2020 :francis:. When it does, I want my daps and reps at alarming speeds. Just wipe me down with them shyts :ehh:
Couldn't have said it better myself!
 

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I watched Kofi and for a couple of months afterward but it got boring again and WWE is just boring. They got a lot of good speakers and they speak better than the 90's by a mile but those guys had better characters. Even the C list guys like Al Snow had interesting characters like Head and stuff. Val Venis. Godfather. It was like you wanted to see the lower roster guys. These days, most of these guys are boring even if their speaking is good and their technical skills are WAY better than the 90's.

Vince gotta improve it and make wrestling fun again to watch. I will say this, the women's division is night and day better than the 90's in EVERY SINGLE WAY.

I don't really care for Breh Wyatt but his character is pretty entertaining. I watch him when he's on screen.
 

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I know..Kofi is a mistake..which makes it all the more shameful. Then Bryan had to make it right behind the scenes..all because Ali got injured.
Kofi's run was well-deserved and was the only well-booked title run this year (minus the terrible ending to his reign). The only mistake was who Kofi dropped the title to.
 
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First and foremost, sorry for this long ass reply :pachaha:

Wrestling may be dying period. AEW & WWE should be working together honestly. But for the WWE. Failure to build new stars (at least not correctly), and bad creative is their main problem. Also, most of the people they bring back is not there every week (they shouldn`t be needed in the first place if you have legit "superstars" on your program).

So why would people tune in when they know no one like The Rock for example is going to be there? Plus the superstars we watch every week is held back by bad writing that prevents them from being as engaging, or charismatic as the wrestlers from back in the day. It`s like they`re not allowed to be charismatic, or it`s against the rules. On top of that. Most matches there aren`t any high stakes and mean nothing, the same matches again, and again, bad payoffs, cheap finishes because they wrote themselves into a corner etc

I use to think them being PG was the problem. It`s not. The people who run the show gives off a vibe that

A) they don`t know what the fukk they`re doing
B) they don`t care

So most fans stopped caring\watching....or they`re smart, and just watch the highlights on YouTube. Why waste 2 to 3 hours weekly when you can catch up in minutes. Most of the time, you`re not missing anything of any importance.

Lesnar is always holding the main title, and doesn`t show up to 90% of the shows the WWE do every year.
The Rock isn`t there every week
Goldberg isn`t there every week
Sting isn`t there every week
AJ Styles is cool but i doubt he draws in millions
DX isn`t there every week
NXT superstars goes to the main roster and are focused on for 4 weeks, then Vince doesn`t like them, then to the bushes they go.
Nobody was asking for Cain Valesquez to sign to the E
Mysterio has been misused since he came back until maybe a few months ago
Rousey is cool but she can only bring in but so many viewers
Kurt Angle isn`t there every week, and at this point i doubt he brings in many viewers
DanIel Bryan:bryan:
Cena was forced for so long he drove fans away imo.
Reigns wasn`t mid carding until his return earlier this year. A majority of this decade he was forced just like Cena. Not really his fault but :manny:
Kevin Owens won the WWE Title, but i truly think just the internet loves KO. The internet is tricky. You can have 3 million followers, and only 4% support you and tune in
Finn Balor won the WWE title, got injured, relinquished the title, came back, and never got a chance at the title again until he faced Lesnar earlier this year. Misused
They brought Lashley back and put him in terrible programs. He hasn`t been in one good angle since returning
People complained about Big Show, Kane, and Mark Henry.. They should be on the creative team alongside most of the people you named.
Punk had a year run :ehh:
Batista isn`t there every week
Brought Austin back to host shows....host shows...Also not there weekly. Should be in creative
Brought the Hardyz Back, cool WM moment, but everything afterwards is a blur. What did they do after that WM moment that had any importance.
Brought Matt back as Broken Matt and couldn`t capture the magic of the character from TNA because creative is terrible
Kofi becoming the first black champ was dope, but everything afterwards made him look like a paper champion imo. They could`ve done more with him.

Basically, you named some awesome things that were big steps forward. But the fans aren`t gonna stick around because the WWE has a track record to mess up good things. They say they give their fans what they want. When in reality they give their fans what Vince wants them to want. Hell. When shyt got real bad last year they promised change, but what changed really. If AEW went out of business tomorrow, people think they aren`t trying now. They would be on cruise control again.

So to sum it up. Too much bad, with some good few and far between= people losing interest\ratings drop
 
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The only good to tolerable stuff they did was because the fans forced their hand and since they're stubborn they ended up booking it like shyt. Just so they can be like "Well we gave you what you wanted".(Daniel Bryan was the only one who didn't fall victim)

How you have Bobby Lashley back in the company and not even do anything with him and Lesnar is a fukking travesty


Moral of the story is, if you're fed shyt everyday you might find some positive here or there and even that's pushing it.
 

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I can't wait for Lesnar & Lashley to finally do a random match out of nowhere just for the reaction when it's the same Lesnar match that he does pretty much every single time out :heh:

Lesnar would do a bunch of suplexes, get his head ran into the post, Lashley would have 2 minutes of offense probably including Lesnar kicking out of his finish, & then Lesnar hits 1 F5 & pins him. Internet complains that Lashley looks weak & the wheel keeps turning.
 

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First and foremost, sorry for this long ass reply :pachaha:

Wrestling may be dying period. AEW & WWE should be working together honestly. But for the WWE. Failure to build new stars (at least not correctly), and bad creative is their main problem. Also, most of the people they bring back is not there every week (they shouldn`t be needed in the first place if you have legit "superstars" on your program).

So why would people tune in when they know no one like The Rock for example is going to be there? Plus the superstars we watch every week is held back by bad writing that prevents them from being as engaging, or charismatic as the wrestlers from back in the day. It`s like they`re not allowed to be charismatic, or it`s against the rules. On top of that. Most matches there aren`t any high stakes and mean nothing, the same matches again, and again, bad payoffs, cheap finishes because they wrote themselves into a corner etc

I use to think them being PG was the problem. It`s not. The people who run the show gives off a vibe that

A) they don`t know what the fukk they`re doing
B) they don`t care

So most fans stopped caring\watching....or they`re smart, and just watch the highlights on YouTube. Why waste 2 to 3 hours weekly when you can catch up in minutes. Most of the time, you`re not missing anything of any importance.

Lesnar is always holding the main title, and doesn`t show up to 90% of the shows the WWE do every year.
The Rock isn`t there every week. Why would he? He is a Hollywood Star.
Goldberg isn`t there every week. he is old.
Sting isn`t there every week. injured and too old.
AJ Styles is cool but i doubt he draws in millions
DX isn`t there every week. HBK is retired and works with the undisputed era in NXT.
NXT superstars goes to the main roster and are focused on for 4 weeks, then Vince doesn`t like them, then to the bushes they go.True.
Nobody was asking for Cain Valesquez to sign to the E. Agreed.
Mysterio has been misused since he came back until maybe a few months ago. Wrong, he put over Almas and Lesnar.
Rousey is cool but she can only bring in but so many viewers. No, she brings in women and UFC marks.
Kurt Angle isn`t there every week, and at this point i doubt he brings in many viewers. He is old, banged up . He isn’t a factor anymore.
DanIel Bryan:bryan:. Best talent on the roster. Put Kofi over. Put Bray over. Had the best match with Lesnar. Should dethrone him at mania.
Cena was forced for so long he drove fans away imo. In your opinion but wrong. Big Match John put over Punk, KO, Lesnar . Even put over trash Roman.
Reigns wasn`t mid carding until his return earlier this year. A majority of this decade he was forced just like Cena. Not really his fault but :manny: it was his fault. He has no charisma or personality. He is Baron Corbin with long hair and a Vest.
Kevin Owens won the WWE Title, but i truly think just the internet loves KO. The internet is tricky. You can have 3 million followers, and only 4% support you and tune in
Finn Balor won the WWE title, got injured, relinquished the title, came back, and never got a chance at the title again until he faced Lesnar earlier this year. Misused. Agreed.
They brought Lashley back and put him in terrible programs. He hasn`t been in one good angle since returning. Roman killed his push. Him losing chance to fight Lesnar to Roman and then shaking his hand was disgusting.
People complained about Big Show, Kane, and Mark Henry.. They should be on the creative team alongside most of the people you named. No. Absolutely not. Big Show interest in getting into acting. He has 2 shows coming out. Let in retire in peace. Kane is a damn mayor. Mark Henry is there still.
Punk had a year run :ehh:
Batista isn`t there every week. Same as Rock. Avengers money or wrestling? He is an actor.
Brought Austin back to host shows....host shows...Also not there weekly. Should be in creative. what would a 55 year old Austin with a back neck and knees be doing other hosting shows?
Brought the Hardyz Back, cool WM moment, but everything afterwards is a blur. What did they do after that WM moment that had any importance.
Brought Matt back as Broken Matt and couldn`t capture the magic of the character from TNA because creative is terrible. Wrong Jeff got injured and then drunk. Matt was wasted and out everyone you names should actually be in creative because he actually is creative.
Kofi becoming the first black champ was dope, but everything afterwards made him look like a paper champion imo. They could`ve done more with him. Wrong. The only thing done terrible was the Lesnar match and lack of follow up. That was trash.

Basically, you named some awesome things that were big steps forward. But the fans aren`t gonna stick around because the WWE has a track record to mess up good things. They say they give their fans what they want. When in reality they give their fans what Vince wants them to want. Hell. When shyt got real bad last year they promised change, but what changed really. If AEW went out of business tomorrow, people think they aren`t trying now. They would be on cruise control again.

So to sum it up. Too much bad, with some good few and far between= people losing interest\ratings drop
This was a long rambling post.
 
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