The way I remember it, when NWA were in their prime Public Enemy was always bigger.

[Taadow]

Milli Vanilli was bigger than both.

 

[Death6six6]

while I mos def fukked with P.E ,NWA most definitely changed the music industry and not just the rap game...........

 

[bigrodthe1]

Nobody in the streets was bumping it

actually in my neck of the woods ONLY the streets were bumping it

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

actually in my neck of the woods ONLY the streets were bumping it

The backwoods of Eastern Michigan don't count breh

But real talk I got peeps in the D

and u know damn well this album was bumping more in the streets of detroit more than P.E debut LP

 

[bigrodthe1]

The backwoods of Eastern Michigan don't count breh

But real talk I got peeps in the D

and u know damn well this album was bumping more in the streets of detroit more than P.E debut LP

Of course it was me personally I was rocking with YBRTS...contained a couple of my all time favorite PE cuts

 

[Art Barr]

When, nwa came out it changed the entire consciousness and also shifted any common man away from the general idea of black nationalism in a complete radical one sided wave.

White people were the ones who made pe more than they were to standard black people. As they were setting up the prison industrial marketing complex and economy. Where Republicans do as Republicans always do. Make some undercurrent narcissistic lack of good faith based business using the U.S. government. Then dually to keep from being found out or if found out. Try to cover their asses by explaining what counter measures narcissistically.
they instituted in lower non-help based numbers to cover their ass.
Nwa being made into the group culturally in America over pe for the prison industrial marketing economy and complex is what the beginning issue is.

Back then nwa was a globally sweeping mantra.
That was damaging in any and every genre and thought process of the uncultured negro and black nationalist ideals
It is the exact point of change in the black community that can be pointed out.
As soon as eazy appeared at the white house.
black American nationalist and aware culture was being steered towards its doom.
I wish I could agree but in rap since nwa. things have been lead astray since that exact time.

It did not just start with death row.
It began EXACTLY WITH RUTHLESS RECORDS AND NWA.
Especially, once the admin issues of cube were pr'd and disclosed as well.
Which created a splintering motion that separated the black nationalist and aware mind of black people into the doldrums of prison industrial economy marketed based mind state.
that cripples all of black America currently and for the present future.
As black America grasped onto the damning ideals featured in the marketing of the prison industrial economy and complex forever damning and retroacting the black nationalist mindstate in America for ever.

Art Barr

 

[Jerz-2]

Yep, I forgot about this song. My apologies on that point.

But no....I'm a long-time fan. Saw them live with Run DMC and Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince...Terminator X came outta the roof.

But Flava Flav was NOT the most popular rapper of 1989, in no way shape or form. THAT is 100% revisionist, breh. Despite that song, he wasn't taken seriously as a rapper....and he damn sure wasn't THE biggest/most popular rapper of that year....dawg, he wasn't even a bigger rapper than CHUCK in his OWN group.

What you are saying is just factually WRONG.

 

[hustlemania]

De La was not more popular then no PE in 89


You trying to say DOC was more popular then Flav in 89?


Lets just be honest here...Flav was more popular then everyone in PE including Chuck D. When they did the Fight The Power video in Harlem it was all eyes on Flav.

both De la, Beastie Boys (who i see you left out of your reaponse ), and DOC were more popular than Flava Flav..

matter of fact.. so was Eazy-E..

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

public enemy was more mainstream accessible.

while NWA was the tape that I couldn't touch.

sidenote: I didn't understand why I was allowed to play DOC's tape, seeing that he was their artist. didn't realize until recent years later that he didn't cuss.
lol. that last cut on the album with NWA tho......

 

[Ron Fox]

why do u insist on making dumb azz threads based on your warped East coast bias

NWA debut album was a nationwide hit

While P.E bum rush the show was a CERTIFIED FLOP

even though in my opinion it was a good record

It flopped....

Nobody in the streets was bumping it

It wasn't till IT TAKES A NATION lp that P.E got CAME

and even then they were NOT bigger than NWA

LOL.....read the thread title again. I'm talking about 88...not 87. You bringing up an 87 album when NWA came out in 88 makes absolutly no sense.

 

[Ron Fox]

both De la, Beastie Boys (who i see you left out of your reaponse ), and DOC were more popular than Flava Flav..

matter of fact.. so was Eazy-E..

I left out the Beasties because i'm talking about who was a more popular rapper. I dare u to say MCA solo was more popular then Flav.

You saying Eazy E and DOC was more popular then Flav tells me u arent being serious right now. Anything NWA related was underground and PE had more mainstream success at the time, especially when Fight The Power came out. Do The Right Thing catapaulted PE on a level that no one from NWA or DOC could match in 89.

 

[Billy Ocean]

Interesting thread. A lil bit before my time but older heads always tell me about how huge PE, their message and Hank Shoklee's sound was in the late 80's.

 

[Ron Fox]

NWA sampling PE all over this song





Eazy E sampling PE for the chorus and the intro

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

P.E didn't have the female fan base that NWA had..

 

[CoryMack]

I said he wasn't a rapper AT THAT POINT. How many LEAD songs did Flav have in 89? How many solo? 911 Is A Joke didn't even DROP as a solo joint until almost Summer 1990....like, WTF are you even TALKING about with this revisionist shyt?

The fact that you think he was the biggest rapper in '89 shows me that YOU DON'T know anything about rap or clearly have just now come to it in the past couple of years or so.

Why don't you put it to the rest of the forum?:

Will anyone who is old enough to know come in here and cosign OP that Flavor Flav was the most popular/biggest rapper of 1989?

He had that big song in house party which if I remember right led to some weak solo work. But he was definitely popular because he was one of the faces of PE, who was huge at that time.

He was kind of a novelty though like Bushwick Bill.

We gotta remember this is the Do The Right Thing leather Africa medallion era, and PE was big everywhere.

NWA was huge too, but not as big out east whereas PE was big everywhere because of the pro Black message.

They were big enough that Cube felt that working with their producers was the move to make at one point after leaving NWA.