The way I remember it, The Big L hype online didnt start until after the Em shout out on GRODT

[OnlyInCalifornia]

You know what, this is what I get @SunZoo @ZEB WALTON

All those years of being a young head shytting on Galvatron for being in his mid 30s, not listening because I was young, only to have struggle debates with thread starter/kids who were too young during that wave.

+rep Sesan82.

 

[Cheech&Chong]

This is exactly how it went for me.
I'm out in CA seeing the videos for Put it On and the summer smooth remix of MVP. I like both I don't cop the album.
Then I hear his shyt on Dangerous
I went out and bought Lifestyles immediately
And i loved it

i bought lifestylez... years after big picture, never liked it till recently. still never gets burn. Go to L is Big Picture. I cant beleive the L iggnorance in this thread. Big Picture was huge. Was it Big Pimpin or Ruff Ryders Anthem big, no. But people knew Big L this thread is crazy

 

[Ron Fox]

I thought this was a troll thread with three posts in a row cosigning OP

Anybody who claims Big L didn't have internet hype before Em ( no one even remembers this shout-out) wasn't on rap forums in the early days.

It's stating the obvious that L's hype came after death but it had nothing to do with Eminem.

Y'all are either too young or didn't get on the internet till too late with this revisionist history

You misquoted......I'm speaking on the overhype that is popular on the net all after the fact that didnt exist when L was alive. U not the only one who made that mistake.

 

[Ron Fox]

Big Picture was huge. Was it Big Pimpin or Ruff Ryders Anthem big, no. But people knew Big L this thread is crazy

You misquoted......I'm speaking on the overhype that is popular on the net all after the fact that didnt exist when L was alive. U not the only one who made that mistake.

 

[EndDomination]

L was semi-well-known in the rap-community after his death, which gave him a boost in popularity.
He was on no one's "GOAT" list, and was not nationally revered as a top-lyricist/rapper until Eminem shouted him out.

I feel like this is the same argument people have when talking about some semi-unknown Southern artist who's "hot in the streets" yet has almost known recognition outside of the area, just because they're "hot" in your small area does not mean that popularity transfers in the main stream.

 

[Ron Fox]

L was semi-well-known in the rap-community after his death, which gave him a boost in popularity.
He was on no one's "GOAT" list, and was not nationally revered as a top-lyricist/rapper until Eminem shouted him out.

I feel like this is the same argument people have when talking about some semi-unknown Southern artist who's "hot in the streets" yet has almost known recognition outside of the area, just because they're "hot" in your small area does not mean that popularity transfers in the main stream.

Thank you.

 

[Cheech&Chong]

You misquoted......I'm speaking on the overhype that is popular on the net all after the fact that didnt exist when L was alive. U not the only one who made that mistake.

its def cuz he died, happens with every rapper that passes. no one was calling him the goat or top 10 when he was here. ill agree on that. Although his best work was after he died

 

[KnowledgeOfSelf17]

L was dope but I admit this, I ain't know about him until the night he passed. It was weird when it happened because, I was looking for Capone from CNN coming home from prison around that time. I remember channel 9 news said Harlem rapper BIG L was killed. I was like who's Big L? I def copped Big Picture because, all the underground and NY legends was co-signing how dope he was. When you have Pete rock and premiere on your album. That shyt got to be dope back then and even now.

 

[ZEB WALTON]

Lol at everyone "misquoting" and the repetition in this thread. The lack of evidence. Just blatantly not asswering questions and getting mad cuz others disagree. Bringing up lord finesse for some weird reason. The wild assertions that are just WRONG (internet not being big until youtube lmao)..

Im not even tryna be a dikk i just feel like im being trolled with these replys which say nothing but the same thing over and over ie. "big l hype was after he died" (that NOONE disagreed with yet mind you) and "you misquoted" which noones doing..

Eminem: the guy with the most cacish, shock pop oriented, only like white rappers, "im out that rap phase" fan base EVER and somehow put L into the goat conversations... the guy who most minorities on here swear they never listened to and ish trash... yet ems actual named goat who he shouted out in his PRIME POPULARITY wouldnt crack 80% of eminem fans top 50.

Were literally fighting here over a guy who sold a million records being in peoples top 10s cause of a shout out when big L sold more records than 90% of the hip hop world. He sold more records than 3 of my top 10 and im sure a lot of yalls top 10. he sold those records BEFORE GRODT.

The guys part of the hip hop conciousness.. and has been since the night he died. hes not herb mcgruff. Hes a super accessible rapper with 2 good albums; the same amount as 2 other so called goats have in big and pun. Another set of guys who were names goats the second they died. Justified or not.

Its a moot point cause it cant be proven. Might as well tell me your top 5 is the definitive in hip hop history.

Cant wait for that next thread in ten years when ima hear that noone put doom in their top 10s til kendrick shout him out on his album and he wasnt even popping online like that until then 2015.

 

[The_Third_Man]

Big is the most overrated rapper ever.

 

[Ron Fox]

Lol at everyone "misquoting" and the repetition in this thread. The lack of evidence.

I gave u evidence....the overhype online all after the fact about him being this and that which didnt exist when L was alive, Yet U keep saying he was on the same level as BIG and Pun. You are the overhype I'm talking about.




And that MF Doom reference was stupid. MF Doom first came on the scene doing the Gas Face


"Oh shyt! Another gas face victim"...


Zeb Walton gets the gas face

 

[The Dust King]

You stretchin it breh...

nikkas KNEW who L was in NYC when he passed. COC, DITC, Clue freestyle etc etc

NYC born Jersey raised...cats was geniune sick when L passed.

My nikka I didn't say any of that

YOU was genuine sick, most fans was like WHO???

I knew him 10 yrs before but that's me. As evidenced by the callers on the day of his death plenty of new yorkers didnt kno him

@mobbinfms people didn't call up hot97 from outside the tristate area in 99

Junior mafia went gold and everyone knew them but if I ran up on heads in 97 and said who was on the aaliyah song?

Nobody could name the members.

Big L was known in the underground and was poised to blow BUT putting him on the level of pac, pun, and BIG after his passing was ridiculous

It only got to that point through 2 steps; the internet and Eminem name dropping him

Lines like "ask beavis I get nothing but head" and songs like "devil's son" gravitated him toward those same fanbase who were championing Eminem but knew lil of the culture

 

[ZEB WALTON]

I gave u evidence....the overhype online all after the fact about him being this and that which didnt exist when L was alive, Yet U keep saying he was on the same level as BIG and Pun. You are the overhype I'm talking about.




And that MF Doom reference was stupid. MF Doom first came on the scene doing the Gas Face


"Oh shyt! Another gas face victim"...


Zeb Walton gets the gas face

Talking to you is like having a discussion with charlie browns teacher breh.

Again repeating yourself.. WE ALL KNOW THE HYPE IS AFTER HE DIED NOONE YET HAS SAID DIFFERENT. Hes literally in the same position pun is. Acting like they arent similar is another strike against your comprehension.

YOU SAID ITS CAUSE OF EMINEM. 4 people agree with you. The rest with me.

Seems like yur mad cuz people like big L by the way your bribging up lord finesse for no reason and saying murs/eyedea/etc got more hype than L while L outsold their entire careers Combined Before eminem mentioned him.

Theres no evidence you can give that would establish eminem caused the hype. None.

Your ducking the redman question still 3 days later. Theres no basis for you to compare it to, no prior examples of em doing this before.

Again eminem is a pop rapper whos fans arent even real hip hop fans yet hes responsible for UG big L being popular. Your the one acting like its weird for a guy who sold 800k albums in the united states to be in peoples top rapper lists when we all have way less popular rappers in ours.

That is a BIG L

 

[Ron Fox]

4 people agree with you. The rest with me.

Yeah ok....Men lie, women lie but the numbers dont

1st page the first respons and the first person who co signs me has 35 daps

the the second response, is the 2nd person who also co signs and has 40 daps


Meanwhile the first post u made in this thread has 0 daps



@SunZoo dapping u now cuz he being fake but he didnt even dap your first post.

 

[thatrapsfan]

L was semi-well-known in the rap-community after his death, which gave him a boost in popularity.
He was on no one's "GOAT" list, and was not nationally revered as a top-lyricist/rapper until Eminem shouted him out.

I feel like this is the same argument people have when talking about some semi-unknown Southern artist who's "hot in the streets" yet has almost known recognition outside of the area, just because they're "hot" in your small area does not mean that popularity transfers in the main stream.

How old are you breh? I dont even remember this Em line being discussed like that on AHH or SOHH back in the day. The Em verse that really had the internet buzzing back then was the Renegade one. This shyt wasnt even on the top of the agenda as far as GRODT is concerned, yet it supposedly propelled Big L's post-death popularity

The Big Picture went Gold in 2000. GRODT was released in 2003. Its the nature of Big L's death itself (in his prime) that helped boost him. People love "what wouldve happened" stories. Think Len Bias.