The way I remember it, The Big L hype online didnt start until after the Em shout out on GRODT

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Ebonics was pre death.

Yea shortly before he died tho right ?

I didnt know who big l was until the source covered his death the next month. Bought the big picture first week i know that was on it. I know it was a single i think. Just saying it got popular after he died. I know it was listed in the source as one of top independent aongs of 98 i remember
 

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:umad:I've never even heard of you in these Coli skreets or had a conversation with you but it's good to know that I'm on your mind.

U came in here trolling talking about I'm a Cac when everyone knows what the fukk I look like excpet you. You had nothing to offer the conversation but irrelevant nonsensical bullshyt.

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The funniest thing to me is how he was a middle of the pack MC WHILE alive. He came off as a bootleg Big Daddy Kane to us NY heads in the mid 90s. Doesn't mean he was trash, but how he became "the go to" guy to say he was an unknown great years later is more about folks wanting to prove they "know hip hop." I remember being on a podcast with some white dude who that it was sacrilegious for me to say that, but I was like "I'm speaking from my experience when he was around."
 

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Yea shortly before he died tho right ?

I didnt know who big l was until the source covered his death the next month. Bought the big picture first week i know that was on it. I know it was a single i think. Just saying it got popular after he died. I know it was listed in the source as one of top independent aongs of 98 i remember
Nah - it was out for a while before he died. I don't remember exactly when it dropped though. But it was definitely 98.
It was the basis for the Rocafella deal.
 

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Other than Ebonics, what would his "claim to fame" be to a 14 year old in 2001, who doesn't live in NY?

Its not a slight to say he was "the other guy" in a freestyle with the best rapper at the time.
Do your homework. Jay-Z was virtually unknown in 95. Big L brought him along to Stretch and Bob.
If you were too young to know what was what, that's fine, but don't go making pronouncements about things you aren't fully aware on.
 

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I was on SOHH around the same time and I don't remember Murs or Immortal Tech being hyped up in 01 or 02...although I could have just ignored it. Murs got his first big push with the album with 9th and for Tech it was Vol. 2 which was 2003 I think.
I also don't remember there being a huge resurgence in Big L after GRODT dropped. :yeshrug:


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Yeah u must have ignored the Immortal Tech hype because it existed. As a harlem native and hearing u say u were online in 2001 I find it kinda funny how u talking all this "I was a Big L fan" but wasnt up on Immortal Tech when he first came out. Dance With The Devil was pretty popular and he was popular in the battle arena. He was part of that whole "pumpkinhead /immortal technique/c ray walz/Poison Pen" mix. He even had "Rhyme of the month" in the source magazine in 2001 for his 2nd verse from the song "Revolutionary." So basically u werent even paying attention to what was in The Source around that time.



and I'm not talking about a Big L resurgence after GRODT......I want u to listen to me closely. I'm talking about the Big L overhype on the internet a lil after GRODT that didnt exist when L was alive....But i get this feeling that u gonna just say the opposie of everything I'm saying. If I say they werent talking about L like that u gonna respond with "OH no he was the goat when he was alive"

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Do your homework. Jay-Z was virtually unknown in 95. Big L brought him along to Stretch and Bob.
If you were too young to know what was what, that's fine, but don't go making pronouncements about things you aren't fully aware on.
I heard him on Stretch and Bob that day. My boys did a show with Jay, Foxy and Smooth the Hustla the year prior at Culture Club. Funny enough, it was Wendy Williams and her husband that promoted the show.

To say Jay was unknown in 95 is you trying to hard bruh. He was known just as much as Big L in the city then.
 

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U came in here trolling talking about I'm a Cac when everyone knows what the fukk I look like excpet you. You had nothing to offer the conversation but irrelevant nonsensical bullshyt.

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The funniest thing to me is how he was a middle of the pack MC WHILE alive. He came off as a bootleg Big Daddy Kane to us NY heads in the mid 90s. Doesn't mean he was trash, but how he became "the go to" guy to say he was an unknown great years later is more about folks wanting to prove they "know hip hop." I remember being on a podcast with some white dude who that it was sacrilegious for me to say that, but I was like "I'm speaking from my experience when he was around."



Thank you

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You see this is how I remember it.....I think that a lot of the responses that are opposing what I originally stated fall in that same category of what u said about "wanting to prove they know Hip Hop."

And thats why I'm calling it out now because its stands out that the overhype he gets now wasnt there when he was alive. Now dont get me wrong....in this case I think its good that he actually gets the overhype, he's someone who i think desreves it but I cant play the game of saying it was that way when he was alive. And thats my overall point.
 

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The funniest thing to me is how he was a middle of the pack MC WHILE alive. He came off as a bootleg Big Daddy Kane to us NY heads in the mid 90s. Doesn't mean he was trash, but how he became "the go to" guy to say he was an unknown great years later is more about folks wanting to prove they "know hip hop." I remember being on a podcast with some white dude who that it was sacrilegious for me to say that, but I was like "I'm speaking from my experience when he was around."

Exactly.
 
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