The big picture in 2000 sold 75,000 first week and went gold
True story, being at Truman HS in the Bronx we all heard the news of his death but nobody knew who he was? We couldn't pick him out of a line up but all of a sudden he was this rap messiah. It really pisses me off how people try to down play Mase impact when he became a top 3 artist after Biggie's death mostly 1997/98. The same thing goes for Stacks, dude was a third option on DJ Clue roster after Fabulous and Budden. It didn't work out well for him and Paul Cain after the mixtape game started to die out then he jumped on Dipset bandwagon. Nothing much both of these artist never made impact or captured the masses just underground average rappers who couldn't make a song or had a single mainstream hit.
Easily overhyped and overrated. Especially when you have all these corny ass kids talking about "I wish we could bring back pac, big and big l"
Big fukin L?
yeah he had some hot verses, some cool punchlines but miss me with that bullshiiiiiit
Puns post death dikkriding gets a pass because he had a dope fukking album and a platinum plaque to his name before he died
L was a slightly better, less cornier version of Papoose
I dont think one was better then the other.
I'm talking about who was the better rapper. Not about commercial metrics.Like I said Finesse had 2 videos on heavy rotation in 95 after MVP.....and L didnt have anything in heavy rotation on BET after Finesse, so I dont see the surpassing u are refering to.
He did. I'm talking about rapping though. For me, when L was still alive, I was buying albums just so I could hear a new Big L verse. I didn't do that for AG or OC. OC was my second favorite member in DITC though.hat would be like saying L surpassed AG or OC while alive when both had highly recognized LPs...
This is exactly how it went for me.people loved Big L. we were 16/17 when he popped for us. My circle fukked with him after OCs Jewelz and he blew up on that DITC Album, Big Picture made him a legend
Anybody can call a radio station and say some dumb shyt. If you were a serious hip hop fan in early 99, it would have been impossible to not know who Big L was.I'm not arguing. I'm telling you the internet and Eminem are what gave big L his goat status
This thread is official. Like I said the day he died nggaz in NYC was call the radio like "WHO?"
Big L was being overrated
When are you saying Eminem hit? His first album dropped right around when L died.Yeah if anything his hyped died down once Eminem hit.
False.He was always just the other guy on the Jay Z freestyle
You call it a bytch move....I say he forced ol boy to break bread. I dont see nothing wrong with an old fashion taxing.
"give it up.....Let me take that of u lil man"
I think he's making the point that people were utilizing his vocals to make remixes.Did u really just use Napster and Kazaa as a reference?
Napster and Kazaa had everything, from lost songs to dj mixes...That doesn't count
I'm talking about the overall adoration of Big L.....Not songs available on filesharing sites.
Fresh is black and me and Ron are sp!cs
So i have no idea wtf u talkn bout.
Mind you I'm pretty sure YOUR a CAC who's a New York transplant
I was on SOHH around the same time and I don't remember Murs or Immortal Tech being hyped up in 01 or 02...although I could have just ignored it. Murs got his first big push with the album with 9th and for Tech it was Vol. 2 which was 2003 I think.Like I said, I been fukking with Messageboards since 2000.... And that whole "Murs/Deltron3030/aesop rock/Immortal Tech/El-p/Illogic/Eydea/Mr Lif" movement was what was hyped up on the internet circa 2001 - 2002. I dare you to say that those werent the names hyped up on the internet around that time and then I double dare u to say that Big L was in that same mix.
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Ebonics was pre death.L was dead, those artists werent, people started giving L that legend propup since 99-00, thats like saying nobody put pun in their top 5 till joe dropped lean back or something, soon as these guys died those props began. i remember kids on the bus calling L the goat in like 00-01...
and even witrh the talk online there was still a healthy amount of big L love on the net idk what yur really saying and i fukk wit ya but i dont get it...cause eminem had NOTHING to do with big Ls popularity. literally not a thing
the free with jay, deadly combo mixes, ebonics, etc were the things that resonated with people POST death. devils son got the same UG love some of those guys you posted about did