The Underappreciated Genius Of K-Rino's Song Deprogrammed

[The Ruler 09]

Oh, the power of perception.

For me, i find the people who have been raving about K-Rino have been pseudo-intelligent, pretentious, and bigoted while some of the people who did not enjoy k-rino have been free thinkers and intelligent, or simply trolling to have fun.

The difference is you are going to continue believing that what you said are facts. While what i said is my opinion based on my perception of facts.

Still stand by my opinion of K Rino....He would be better off as a writer, his ideas about the world are asinine, for the most part, his followers are uneducated sheep desperate to find a counter-culture to fit into, his English teacher never told him the best way to describe something is to do it simply, and finally as an MC he has a good imagination for story telling but that's it.

Brother Ali > K rino's as far as "Real hip hop" is concerned.

"1 of the observations I had was most of the K-Rino fans in this thread were intelligent, knowledgeable, substance filled and articulate, while the hateful segment/trolls were ignorant, childish, simplistic with basic comprehension, don't understand percentages, narrow minded, disrespectful, ungrateful, negative, unpleasant individuals in general."

That's what I said, and this is more factual. As they WERE ignorant, which is a fact, were childish, simplistic with basic comprehension, some clearly showed they don't understand percentages, WERE narrow minded, disrespectful unnecessarily, very ungrateful, negative and unpleasant. So your perception objectively doesn't hold up, anybody who showed mutual respect I conversed with in a civil manner, the same can't be said AT ALL in reverse.

Again this post highlights the very truth of what I was saying. It's been brilliant in here how so many of the truths I originally said have been categorically proven by the very people trying to deny them. Nonsense and ridiculous statements which as usual don't stand up AT ALL, was 2 Pac counter culture in regards to popularity in Hip Hop? 1 of my GOAT artists, KRS-One? Sold a lot of units, Nas, Jay Z, Rakim, Big Pun, and MANY others I'm huge fans of... so again this doesn't have any logic and is clearly filled with bias and a simplistic mind state.

In regards to Brother Ali, Brother Ali is great too and you'll never see me shyt on Ali at all, I respect Ali and am a big fan of his. However he doesn't have the body of work to compete with K-Rino yet, K-Rino has also displayed even more diversity and is superior in countless other areas as an artist. But Ali is a true great and a good dude, I've had many interactions with Brother Ali over many years and trust me if he was here he would be criticising what you are supporting too. Lol at you thinking Brother Ali endorses disrespect and disdain for Hip Hop legends and pioneers and against muslims

You either haven't heard Brother Ali's work or are having convenient ....



Also Brother Ali is not simplistic and basic all the time either, he's a true artist, so nice divide and conquer attempt cause you know I am an Ali fan but didn't work

 

[The Ruler 09]

There is already one

Yep, for official news, updates, information etc. Will be posting again in that soon, but try to make that less scattered so information is more easily and readily available. Will also post information about his new projects in there...

 

[The Ruler 09]

So many quotables from overkill and abnormal. I would say these are some of his best but theres just too many to name

I just posted Amnesia, great song...

Dissing K-Rino is...

 

[Starski]

"1 of the observations I had was most of the K-Rino fans in this thread were intelligent, knowledgeable, substance filled and articulate, while the hateful segment/trolls were ignorant, childish, simplistic with basic comprehension, don't understand percentages, narrow minded, disrespectful, ungrateful, negative, unpleasant individuals in general."

That's what I said, and this is more factual. As they WERE ignorant, which is a fact, were childish, simplistic with basic comprehension, some clearly showed they don't understand percentages, WERE narrow minded, disrespectful unnecessarily, very ungrateful, negative and unpleasant. So your perception objectively doesn't hold up, anybody who showed mutual respect I conversed with in a civil manner, the same can't be said AT ALL in reverse.

Again this post highlights the very truth of what I was saying. It's been brilliant in here how so many of the truths I originally said have been categorically proven by the very people trying to deny them. Nonsense and ridiculous statements which as usual don't stand up AT ALL, was 2 Pac counter to popularity in Hip Hop? 1 of my GOAT artists, KRS-One? Sold a lot of units, Nas, Jay Z, Rakim, Big Pun, and MANY others I'm huge fans of... so again this doesn't have any logic and is clearly filled with bias and a simplistic mind state.

In regards to Brother Ali, Brother Ali is great too and you'll never see me shyt on Ali at all, I respect Ali and am a big fan of his. However he doesn't have the body of work to compete with K-Rino yet, K-Rino has also displayed even more diversity and is superior in countless other areas as an artist. But Ali is a true great and a good dude, I've had many interactions with Brother Ali over many years and trust me if he was here he would be criticising what you are supporting too. Lol at you thinking Brother Ali endorses disrespect and disdain for Hi Hop legends and pioneers and against muslims

You either haven't heard Brother Ali's work or are having convenient ....



Also Brother Ali is not simplistic and basic all the time either, he's a true artist, so nice divide and conquer attempt cause you know I am an Ali fan but didn't work

IK brother Ali would disprove of my opinions, so it's great i do not listen to his artistic work for his approval. And yes, in today's climate Hip hop that is very "lyric" based w/ little regard for flow/beat/ect. is a counter-culture...why do you think K-rino isn't known? As you said today is all about "turn up" so K-rino and people like him are the counter culture of hip hop TODAY. I brought up Ali to show that one can listen to both "real" hip hop and "turn up"....something most "real hip hop" heads do not understand..and you can appreciate both artists for what they do respectively, so no it was not a "divide and conquer tactic"...(K rino listeners are so conspiratorial )

Agree to disagree w/ everything else it is obvious you aren't budging.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Also, anybody who wants to make these critiques, how come they don't want to get into a substantive debate where we can actually break down shyt I show them? Cause they will be disproven? I offered to do this on an individual basis so there would be no saturation either and in many different areas but ZERO takers.

Also lol @ being free minded when jumping on a bandwagon of hate lol, clearly the free minded ones who are the ones who spoke on the substance of the topics, not to ones who decided to troll and reply simultaneously in big groups.... Basically much of this has been about people being sheep, and following the crowd, it's ironic to accuse people who are in the minority and actually obviously ARE free minded as they are NOT following the crowd not being free minded lol. Another simplistic nonsensical "point" shattered....

at not hearing an artists's work yet having such hatred and bitterness for said artist lol.

But anyway, the trolls are serving a purpose in this context so cool, think this has around 8200 views now and I've lost count of replies, approaching 800?

The rebuttals clearly just...

 

[The Ruler 09]

IK brother Ali would disprove of my opinions, so it's great i do not listen to his artistic work for his approval. And yes, in today's climate Hip hop that is very "lyric" based w/ little regard for flow/beat/ect. is a counter-culture...why do you think K-rino isn't known? As you said today is all about "turn up" so K-rino and people like him are the counter culture of hip hop TODAY. I brought up Ali to show that one can listen to both "real" hip hop and "turn up"....something most "real hip hop" heads do not understand..and you can appreciate both artists for what they do respectively, so no it was not a "divide and conquer tactic"...(K rino listeners are so conspiratorial )

Agree to disagree w/ everything else it is obvious you aren't budging.

I'm just saying to you it's ironic you bringing up Brother Ali of ALL people (just cause you know I'm an Ali fan, and don't lie about that cause I saw you in that other thread) when he would vehemently disagree with your opinions and criticize it, because he is real, you are not. So all the real people are on 1 side and the ridiculous ignorant trolls on the other, unless you also think Brother Ali is the criticism you tried to level at us? Which I assume you don't, but then you just said you know he would disprove of what you said so that would be a contradiction of your own analysis....

Lol, at this dumb shyt, I've offered to you or anybody to actually get into a debate where I show you shyt and then you explain to me how your comments are valid, we could break it down in depth...

K-Rino isn't as known as some artists because he turned down major record deals because he wanted to keep his creative control and would NOT budge on subject matter. J Prince wanted to sign him. DESPITE this he is known worldwide, as his multi millions of views on youtube suggest, THAT in itself is a testament to his quality, he's 30 years deep in Hip Hop plus and STILL doing national and international shows.

Doesn't make sense, Nas is still popular today, J Cole even had some content on his album and is popular, others too.

Like I said we can go much deeper into this if you want

How much K-Rino have you heard anyway?

I've said I'm willing to get into substantive debate, so don't ...



If I offer that and people don't want to do it...

 

[dezert_storm]

Oh, the power of perception.

For me, i find the people who have been raving about K-Rino have been pseudo-intelligent, pretentious, and bigoted while some of the people who did not enjoy k-rino have been free thinkers and intelligent, or simply trolling to have fun.

The difference is you are going to continue believing that what you said are facts. While what i said is my opinion based on my perception of facts.

Still stand by my opinion of K Rino....He would be better off as a writer, his ideas about the world are asinine, for the most part, his followers are uneducated sheep desperate to find a counter-culture to fit into, his English teacher never told him the best way to describe something is to do it simply, and finally as an MC he has a good imagination for story telling but that's it.

Brother Ali > K rino's as far as "Real hip hop" is concerned.

You dont enjoy and respect K-Rino's artistry because you are not a stand up individual...look at the person in your picture. Is that who you call hip hop??? Lol...The fans of K-Rino have shown that they have a genuine love and respect for the culture.

 

[Starski]

I'm just saying to you it's ironic you bringing up Brother Ali of ALL people (just cause you know I'm an Ali fan, and don't lie about that cause I saw you in that other thread) when he would vehemently disagree with your opinions and criticize it, because he is real, you are not. So all the real people are on 1 side and the ridiculous ignorant trolls on the other, unless you also think Brother Ali is the criticism you tried to level at us? Which I assume you don't, but then you just said you know he would disprove of what you said so....

Lol, at this dumb shyt, I've offered to you or anybody to actually get into a debate where I show you shyt and then you explain to me how your comments are valid, we could break it down in depth...

K-Rino isn't as known as tists because he turned down major record deals because he wanted to keep his creative control and would NOT budge on subject matter. J Prince wanted to sign him. DESPITE this he is known worldwide, as his multi millions of views on youtube suggest, THAT in itself is a testament to his quality, he's 30 years deep in Hip Hop plus and STILL doing national and international shows.

Doesn't make sense, Nas is still popular today, J Cole even had some content on his album and is popular, others too.

Like I said we can go much deeper into this if you want

How much K-Rino have you heard anyway?

I've said I'm willing to get into substantive debate, so don't ...


If I offer that and people don't want to do it...

I brought up Ali cause Im listening to US rn cause i haven't listened to him for some months until i saw that video....

@ Bold.....You literally are the text book stereotype of a K-Rino fan. Frlom a philosophical perspective i laugh at the idea of realness, and the ego boost one gets when they think they are "real",

I have listened from the Annihilation of the Evil Machine to theRapeutic...With a alot of random songs from different albums on youtube...I have listened enough to realize his redundancy and his M.O.

I gave my opinion on page 11 i think, my post was MY honest truth and i believe the very next page you said you would reply, and you did not. Ironically i see a lot of great criticism of K-rino you keep on ignoring on here. It wasn't until i started, trolling for a lack of a better word, i actually got a reply from you. I understand your whole M.O (Go back to my first post to understand why) and i realize the stubbornness that goes with it.


BTW Nas and J cole and others push units because they focus on content AND the music, k rino thinks it's just about the content...Sonically it sounds the same and he never takes risks.

I'm done here, i understand the disgusting mind state of K rino and "real" hip hop fans, because i was once one and im reminded of it all the time by your posts, youtube comments, ect.. There is no arguing with you guys, no budging, just basking in a pool of pretentiousness.

 

[Starski]

You dont enjoy and respect K-Rino's artistry because you are not a stand up individual...look at the person in your picture. Is that who you call hip hop??? Lol...The fans of K-Rino have shown that they have a genuine love and respect for the culture.

Bruh.... i have it as my profile picture because it's funny lmao.


And for the final time view my oringinal post on page 11 for K rino, never did i say i hate him and appreciate what he dose....but the fact he has a worse fan base than Eminem and his asinane ideas about the world i no longer enjoy the music, and the fact he is sonically dull. IMO he would be a better writer then a MC.

 

[Yoda]

I brought up Ali cause Im listening to US rn cause i haven't listened to him for some months until i saw that video....

@ Bold.....You literally are the text book stereotype of a K-Rino fan. Frlom a philosophical perspective i laugh at the idea of realness, and the ego boost one gets when they think they are "real",

I have listened from the Annihilation of the Evil Machine to theRapeutic...With a alot of random songs from different albums on youtube...I have listened enough to realize his redundancy and his M.O.

I gave my opinion on page 11 i think, my post was MY honest truth and i believe the very next page you said you would reply, and you did not. Ironically i see a lot of great criticism of K-rino you keep on ignoring on here. It wasn't until i started, trolling for a lack of a better word, i actually got a reply from you. I understand your whole M.O (Go back to my first post to understand why) and i realize the stubbornness that goes with it.


BTW Nas and J cole and others push units because they focus on content AND the music, k rino thinks it's just about the content...Sonically it sounds the same and he never takes risks.

I'm done here, i understand the disgusting mind state of K rino and "real" hip hop fans, because i was once one and im reminded of it all the time by your posts, youtube comments, ect.. There is no arguing with you guys, no budging, just basking in a pool of pretentiousness.

well put.
anytime i try to be nice to ruler, he always ignores me.
but lemme put on my troll hat and he will think thats the real me and start typing full articles about how im a poser and he is "real"

 

[user1]

My bad lol, there's mostly males on here lol.

Thanks for the info, 1 of the things I like about K-Rino is his appeal is quite diverse so can appeal to all kinds of people.

A few of my previous partners have also been big fans of his. I would suggest you listening to Deeper Elevation, I think there is songs in there you may really like from reading your response. So I think I would say that would be a good starting point. But eventually you will probably want to check everything.

It's nice to see a real female Hip Hop head like that, I know many in real life and they have a lot of knowledge and insight in Hip Hop and I enjoy their perspectives.

Please if you get the chance hear these 2 songs for the message...





And feel free to share, I feel like females deserve a lot more respect and recognition in Hip Hop and in general. There's a lot of dope female MC's too really putting great work in.

If you want any more information on K-Rino or any other recommendations just let me know and would be more than happy to help.

Much respect.

Thank you. And much respect.

And it's nice to find someone on here with respect in general. Most of these dudes hate women and it's sad. Hurt people hurt people I guess.

And I will definitely check out those tracks and those albums.

As for the topic of women in hip hop, I'm usually conflicted. I grew up loving the art form but the older I get the less I can stand the misogynist material from both men and women. It's like most females in hip hop just go along with it to be accepted and it sucks. And I have enjoyed some really misogynistic tracks both past and present but I don't love or feel them anymore like I used to. And the lack of female emcees that aren't rapping like super sexed up whores or super masculine chicks is really depressing. I never liked the Foxy Browns or Lil Kims for the most part because I never found it "empowering" to rap about how well they could suck a dikk. I don't really like hearing dudes rap about how many chicks they "toss" either.

But the genre is definitely missing the female MCs that could rap and were still being women. Early Queen Latifah, MC Lyte, Da Brat (at times), Salt N Pepa, Lauryn Hill were all artist I grew up and saw that they could hold their own but be classy. Now all I can really respect is Rapsody. She speaks in a way I can connect to and I've experienced a lot of what she talks about.

Anyways, good talk lol. I will check out K-Rino. Peace brother.

 

[The Beast]

50 pages

 

[user1]

[QUOTE="dezert_storm, post: 12445681, member: 23014"]Exactly...it takes a certain breed of fake and cowardice to diss a legendary MC like Rino. Im convinced that the realness and sophistication of certain MCs just intimidates weak minds like certain people in this thread. Theyd rather listen to Lil Wayne rap about downing sizzurp than hear some real shyt like this

For real brother, respect for your real words. You worded it perfectly, it takes a certain BREED of fakeness and foul disgusting individual to disrespect a good brother like K-Rino who is a Hip Hop legend an pioneer, like why would you disrespect him for? Unless you are a despicable devilish scumbag. There is just no need, it's anti righteousness, this goes way beyond music, no-one has to like the music, they can even critique it if hey want, but when you start having disrespect for a brother like K-Rino, that won't be tolerated without a rebuttal, and I'm certain there would be a strong rebuttal shall we say if this was offline, but as it's online the real people got to represent. It isn't just even solely K-Rino, it's all Hip Hop pioneers and legends, like show some fukking respect. All these brothers and sisters allowed Hip Hop to thrive and flourish, they have given so much to us, and scarified for us, they paved the way, and what people gonna try do? shyt on them? For what purpose? To troll and bait someone on a internet forum? That is an example of no morals of principles, or care, concern of love for Hip Hop. I would never diss a legend and pioneer without merit like that, should have some dignity when speaking on them. If we want people to respect Hip Hop, we should start respecting the people who REALLY are Hip Hop, I do and so do others, but some just have careless unnecessary disrespect and hatred in their heart, it's not productive at all, it's counter productive because then the world looks at us fukked up, and disrespects us in the past, present and will do in the future, if one doesn't respect themselves how can they expect to receive respect from others?. Yes no doubt, intimidation again is the perfect accurate word, that's what it is, some peo hate realness, substance and power, they get shook and project it into warped bitterness.[/QUOTE]

 

[user1]

Now that i think about it...i'd probably say clear top 10 as opposed to borderline top 5...i'd definitely put Stories From the Black Book, Danger Zone, Worst Rapper Alive, Triple Darkness Vol.2, Book Number 7 above it & probably Time Traveler & Solitary Confinement as well...still a A1 album

I'm gonna check these out. Thanks

 

[The Ruler 09]

Just come back on here and reading through the posts, oh seen lol... so basically I challenge people to actually speak about shyt in depth, but then they say they are done and leave? Lol........