The uncomfortable moment when Noam Chomsky gives 9/11 twoofers 7 minutes of ether

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

he's emotional

You're a lying garbage-ass poster that's about as intelligent as one grain of salt.

so again, link something from Fluoridealert.org that has been PROVEN false or stfu

the FDA has fluoride listed as a drug in terms of water fluoridation.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/articles/50-reasons/
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1) Fluoride is the only chemical added to water for the purpose of medical treatment. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) classifies fluoride as a drug when used to prevent or mitigate disease (FDA 2000). As a matter of basic logic, adding fluoride to water for the sole purpose of preventing tooth decay (a non-waterborne disease) is a form of medical treatment. All other water treatment chemicals are added to improve the water’s quality or safety, which fluoride does not do.

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"The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) does not have regulatory responsibility for public water supplies; that is the responsibility of the Environmental Protection Agency. To my knowledge FDA has made no statements regarding approving substances added to water - I don't know why we would since it is not our area of responsibility. With regard to your question about whether the Agency has made statements about the safety and efficacy of fluoridation, I would say only that we have approved fluoride containing products, dentifrices and mouthrinses, for the prevention of caries."

John V. (Jake) Kelsey, DDS, MBA, Dental Team Leader
Division of Dermatologic and Dental Drug Products (HFD-540)
Food and Drug Administration
(301) 827-2020; (301) 827-2075 (fax); kelseyj@cder.fda.gov

You stupid, bumbling, idiotic, lying, piece of shyt.
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[OsO]

you idiot.

this is the exact dumb shyt you were doing in the fluoride thread.. posting erroneous rebuttals and passing them off as factual.


please tell me which one of these statements from your previous post:

Fluoride is the only chemical added to water for the purpose of medical treatment.​

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) classifies fluoride as a drug when used to prevent or mitigate disease (FDA 2000)​

As a matter of basic logic, adding fluoride to water for the sole purpose of preventing tooth decay (a non-waterborne disease) is a form of medical treatment.

All other water treatment chemicals are added to improve the water’s quality or safety, which fluoride does not do.

is refuted by anything in the paragraph you posted as a response:

"The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) does not have regulatory responsibility for public water supplies; that is the responsibility of the Environmental Protection Agency. To my knowledge FDA has made no statements regarding approving substances added to water - I don't know why we would since it is not our area of responsibility. With regard to your question about whether the Agency has made statements about the safety and efficacy of fluoridation, I would say only that we have approved fluoride containing products, dentifrices and mouthrinses, for the prevention of caries."

NADA.

and the worst part is you dont even know your rebuttals are wrong, even after i explain it to you. but at least the rest of HL gets to see what an intellectual midget you are.

im just dragging your dead body behind my carriage at this point lol... but keep digging that hole funkdoc







oh and...

You're a fool. Stopping water fluoridation would put more people at risk for developing fluorosis since the adjustment accomplished by fluoridation actually LOWERS the amount of naturally-occurring fluoride for the majority of the population receiving optimally-fluoridated community water.

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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

you idiot.
this is the exact dumb shyt you were doing in the fluoride thread.. posting erroneous rebuttals and passing them off as factual.

Those are far from erroneous, you bumbling excuse for whale excrement. Meanwhile, you have NO objections that I haven't destroyed.......like your credibility.

Your entire stance is based on lies and excuses that you can't support so you resort to bullshyt.....like quote-mining to make it appear that I'm not destroying every objection you raise in that thread.

You're an imbecile.

An utter, complete moronic LIAR.

YOU LOSE.

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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

so basically we're drugging the entire population lol

OBJECTION: Fluoridation is compulsory medication in that everyone is compelled to drink fluoridated water.

APPRAISAL: Lull, Secretary and General Manager of the American Medical Association, has answered this objection directly. He has stated "It is claimed by some that the community has no right to force them to take undesired medication. This is a double-barreled fallacy because, to begin with, fluoridation is not medication; it is adjustment to normal of a deficient fluorine content in water in certain areas where needed. In the second place, no one is forced to use the public water supply; bottled water can be purchased. The public water supply is in the nature of a public utility, like gas or electricity; it is a convenience but is in no sense a right. Although commonly run by the municipality, it may be a private enterprise in the same manner as electricity or gas, which in some areas are publicly owned and in others, privately."

Dietz, Assistant Attorney General of the State of California has analyzed the contention of compulsion to drink fluoridated municipal waters in relationship to constitutional guarantees of freedom. Dietz has stated that the freedom of belief is absolute whereas the freedom to act is not. Therefore, a person may think and believe as he wishes, for or against fluoridation. However, fluoridation does not limit his right to act as he sees fit. Specifically, there is no legal compulsion. The objector may drink, or not drink fluoridated water, as he wishes. Dietz cited numerous decisions of courts to substantiate his conclusions. Black cites numerous additional cases which support further this philosophy in court decisions, including one by the Supreme Court of the United States.

The evidence indicates clearly that fluoridation is neither medication nor compulsion and that the objection is invalid.

LOL @ 'erroneous rebuttals passing them off as factual'.

You freakin' moron.

I'll make sure EVERYONE sees you for the absolute imbecile that you are every post.

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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

the facts is fluoride is listed by the fda as a drug, not a nutrient. therefore by definition they are putting a drug into the water supply. this is pretty straightforward, and your post refutes nothing.

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"The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) does not have regulatory responsibility for public water supplies; that is the responsibility of the Environmental Protection Agency. To my knowledge FDA has made no statements regarding approving substances added to water - I don't know why we would since it is not our area of responsibility. With regard to your question about whether the Agency has made statements about the safety and efficacy of fluoridation, I would say only that we have approved fluoride containing products, dentifrices and mouthrinses, for the prevention of caries."

John V. (Jake) Kelsey, DDS, MBA, Dental Team Leader
Division of Dermatologic and Dental Drug Products (HFD-540)
Food and Drug Administration
(301) 827-2020; (301) 827-2075 (fax); kelseyj@cder.fda.gov

Dumbass.​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

lol who the fukk is Dean and why should i even care? what are "Dean's" credentials? What were the logistics of the experiments from which "Dean" drew his conclusions?

Henry Trendley Dean (August 25, 1893 – May 13, 1962), was the first director of the U.S. National Institute of Dental Research and a pioneer investigator of water fluoridation in the prevention of tooth decay.

Dean was born in Winstanley Park, Illinois (now part of East St. Louis) on August 25, 1893, the son of William Ware and Rosalie Harriet Dean; his mother's maiden name was Trendley. He received his dental degree from St. Louis University in 1916 and entered private practice that year in Wood River, Illinois. During World War I, he served with the United StatesArmy until 1919, when he returned to his practice. Dean married Ruth Martha McEvoy on September 14, 1921. In 1921, he also entered theUnited States Public Health Service and was stationed in several US Marine Corpshospitals until 1931 when he was placed in charge of dental research at the National Institute of Health, advancing to director of the dental research section in 1945. After World War II, he directed epidemiologic studies for the Army in Germany. When Congress established the National Institute of Dental Research in 1948, Dean was appointed its director, a position he held until retiring in 1953.

Dean's legacy comes almost entirely from his research into fluoridation. At the urging of Dr. Frederick McKay and others concerned with the brown-staining of teeth in certain regions of the country, Dean was asked to make this his first assignment at the Institute. With the help of his fellow investigators and the cooperation of dentists and other health workers in the field, it was established that high amounts of fluorine in drinking water caused mottled enamel on the teeth, while at the same time precipitating lower rates of dental caries (cavities). The rest of Dean's professional life was spent finding the optimal level of fluorine that would prevent tooth decay yet avoid staining teeth.

After his retirement, Dean joined the American Dental Association as Secretary of its Council on Dental Research. In this role, he continued to advocate and defend the addition of fluorine to public drinking water. He was frequently called to speak on the subject in the United States and abroad, mostly to refute the arguments of those who opposed water fluoridation. He died in 1962, after a long-time battle with asthma and emphysema.

The International Association for Dental Research has an award named after Dr. Dean, called the H. Trendley Dean Memorial Award, recognizing meritorious research in epidemiology and public health.

You stupid fukk.​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

if water fluoridation was at safe and optimum levels, then why did the government mandate the levels be lowered in 2011?

Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA's Standards

March 2006

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The 'optimal' concentration of fluoride in drinking water for preventing tooth decay was set at a range of 0.7 to 1.2 mg/L more than 40 years ago by the U.S. Public Health Service. The recommended range for artificial fluoridation is below the EPA standards and was designed for a different purpose, so it is important to note that the safety and effectiveness of the practice of water fluoridation was outside the scope of this report and is not evaluated. This report only evaluates EPA standards.

A 1993 report from the National Research Council had concluded that the EPA standard of 4 mg/L was an appropriate interim standard until more research could be conducted. However, following a comprehensive review of the research conducted since 1993, this report concludes the EPA standard is not protective of health because fluoride exposure at 4 mg/L puts children at risk of developing severe enamel fluorosis that can compromise tooth enamel function and appearance. Fluoride exposure at 4 mg/L could also weaken bone and increase the risk of fractures.

They lowered it from 4 mg/L to the HHS standard which was ALREADY IN PRACTICE YOU DUMB FUKK.

You are the absolute WORST poster in HL.​

 

[OsO]

LOL @ 'erroneous rebuttals passing them off as factual'.

You freakin' moron.

I'll make sure EVERYONE sees you for the absolute imbecile that you are every post.

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now you're using an entirely different post no intellectual integrity whatsoever

anyways, read the highlighted yellow from the link:

Fluoride, when used in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation,
treatment, or prevention of disease in man or animal, is a
drug that is subject to Food and Drug Administration (FDA)
regulation.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/wp-content/uploads/fluoride_drug.pdf


keep digging that hole funkdoc

They lowered it from 4 mg/L to the HHS standard which was ALREADY IN PRACTICE YOU DUMB FUKK.

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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

now you're using an entirely different post

You LOST.

You're the shyttiest poster on this site and I already proved fluoridealert was full of lies.

Just like YOU.

I absolutely BURIED you and you're the ONLY one who can't see it because you're a moron.


GTFOH

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[CouldntBeMeTho]

And this just further proves you're an idiot unused to critical thought.

The CT-crowd claim that the speed could ONLY be accomplished through controlled demolition.

Demolition experts and the NIST concluded that wasn't necessary since structural integrity was compromised by falling debris from Tower 1 and uncontrolled fires for several hours.

http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC STUDY 8-06 w clarif as of 9-8-06 .pdf
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so you quote an article by someone who as far as I can tell has no qualifications. no degrees, or certs. how about listening to people who are actually qualified to speak on the subject.



in this feature length documentary with cutting-edge 9/11 evidence from more than 50 top experts in their fields - high-rise architects, structural engineers, physicists, chemical engineers, firefighters, metallurgists, explosives experts, controlled demolition technicians, and more.

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How about some pilots telling you the maneuvers were impossible too.





there's 48 documentaries regarding 9/11 on this website here. http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/category/911/ I've watched every single one. they cover all the points of view. you can deflect and post tin foil smilies all you want. that's condescending and indicative of a troll.

I actually used to believe the official story, it was through YEARS of research I came to my current stance.

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[CouldntBeMeTho]

now you're using an entirely different post no intellectual integrity whatsoever

anyways, read the highlighted yellow from the link:

Fluoride, when used in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation,
treatment, or prevention of disease in man or animal, is a
drug that is subject to Food and Drug Administration (FDA)
regulation.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/wp-content/uploads/fluoride_drug.pdf


keep digging that hole funkdoc

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he's a troll and not actually here for a intellectual discussion. he just wants to post tin foil smillies and keep his fingers in his ears while screaming...

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Believe that a plane can destroy the highest tower in the world brehs

believe that you can knock down 3 buildings with 2 planes breh

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

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so you quote an article by someone who as far as I can tell has no qualifications. no degrees, or certs. how about listening to people who are actually qualified to speak on the subject.

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God, you're an insufferable idiot and didn't read the very first page......​

This report is authored by Brent Blanchard, Senior Editor for Implosionworld.com and Director of Field Operations at Protec Documentation Services, Inc. (www.protecservices.com), Rancocas, New Jersey. Additional contributions and research assistance was provided by Protec employees Earl Gardner, Gary McGeever, Michael Golden and John Golden.

Protec is one of the world’s most knowledgeable independent authorities on explosive demolition, having performed engineering studies, structure analysis, vibration/air overpressure monitoring and photographic services on well over 1,000 structure blasting events in more than 30 countries. These include the current world record-holders for largest, tallest and most buildings demolished with explosives. Protec regularly documents the work of more than 20 explosives contractors who perform structure blasting as a primary source of revenue (including extensive experience with every American company) as well as dozens more who blast structures in a part-time capacity.

Beyond the above, Protec possesses several additional types of data and experience that place the firm in a unique position to analyze and comment on this event:

1. Protec technicians were operating portable field seismographs at several construction sites in Manhattan on 9/11. These seismographs recorded the events at Ground Zero, including the collapse of all three structures. These measurements, combined with seismic and airblast data recorded by other independent entities, provide an unfiltered, purely scientific view of each event.
   
2. In the weeks following 9/11, several Protec building inspectors and staff photographers, including this author, were contracted by demolition teams to document the deconstruction and debris removal processes at Ground Zero. These processes included the mechanical pull-down of the remains of the U.S. Customs Building (WTC 6) and various other activities occurring simultaneously throughout the site. Our teams took thousands of photographs and personally examined untold amounts of debris, including countless structural elements from WTC 1 and 2. While these photographs and video recordings were not originally intended to specifically prove or disprove evidence of explosive demolition, they do provide substantial visual evidence that relates directly to this analysis and place us in a position to speak first-hand of conditions on site rather than relying on outside testimony or hearsay.
   
3. Protec has been given access to thousands of personal photographs taken by laborers and site foremen employed by the demolition companies responsible for deconstructing the Ground Zero site. The companies include Tully Construction, D.H. Griffin Wrecking, Mazzocchi Wrecking, Yannuzzi Demolition, Gateway Demolition and Manafort Brothers. (Any other demolition company claiming to have worked on the Ground Zero site either worked under the supervision of one of these firms or is misrepresenting their participation.) In addition, Protec documented the only public discussion of the 9/11 clean-up attended by all of the demolition teams (National Demolition Association Convention, Orlando, Florida, 4/22/03). While the original intent of Protec’s two-hour video was to archive the unprecedented challenges faced by these teams, various questions and commentary from the speakers are relevant to this analysis.
   
4. Because building implosions are often promoted as live news events, Protec’s offices are equipped to record multiple television broadcasts at all times. Our company’s archived recordings of original news broadcasts from the morning of 9/11 begin well prior to the collapse of the first tower and continue uninterrupted beyond the collapse of WTC 7. These original unedited recordings have allowed us to compare and scrutinize the collapse of all three structures free from any possibility of image tampering or modification. In addition, we have examined dozens of freelance and amateur video recordings incorporated into various documentary programs chronicling 9/11 and studied countless ground-based and aerial images captured by private, press and government-contracted photographers.

Protec and its employees have not been paid or hired by anyone to analyze this event, nor do we possess any political affiliations or contribute to any political party or individuals. We have undertaken this endeavor entirely at our own expense, with the singular goal of facilitating constructive dialog and providing a factual voice of reason to our friends and associates who were affected by the attack.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

he's a troll and not actually here for a intellectual discussion.

There is no 'intelligent' discussion in here so long as you keep trying to foist your bullshyt 'theories'. You didn't bother reading what I posted. You didn't even try to do the math in-regards to the towers and what you posted from the NIST report pretty much deaded your argument about the Towers and Building 7 being controlled demolitions.

You and your 'fukk-buddy' need to get a room and stop polluting the forum with your nonsense.

There is NO evidence that the WTC Towers or Building 7 were in any way, shape or form demolished using explosives of any type.​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

LOL, I can't BELIEVE you posted a vid with that charlatan, Richard Gage, and his garbage site.......

He's a liar and an imbecile.....just like LeyeT.....



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