Oh now you don't care,
I mean overall I don't care either yet here we both are
I'm just talking about how theses companies move, overall I don't really care either if we wanna go that route.
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Oh now you don't care,
I mean overall I don't care either yet here we both areI'm just talking about how theses companies move, overall I don't really care either if we wanna go that route.
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What does this tweet have to do with me "understanding contracts"
If only you knew
As far as why Capcom and especially all other major publisher take these deals it all goes back to the "monopolistic practices" that you love pinning on MS.
Sony can make "demands" because there marketshare is so massive. If Capcom doesn't agree, which they are free not too. They lose out on massive promotion, deals, and promotional benefits.
So yeah put it on gamepass, and lose out on any kind of promotion and spotlight from the company with a lion share of the market or just don't and make sure that the game is equivalent on both systems while locking down exclusive media promotions and as a bonus if Sony is interested they can do a exclusive deal with the option to renew it on a yearly basis or whatever time frame Sony sees fit.
So by combining the typical exclusive and timed exclusive deals with all that other stuff they essentially have locked Xbox out.
Literally the only solution to that changing is throwing money at. No amount of great exclusive games or "home grown 1st party titles" is going to put them in a position to compete with that in the foreseeable future.
The fact that MS is cutting these same type of deals makes your post complete fanboy nonsense. I'll repeat what I said in the other thread in point form so its easy for yall to understand.
We just saw MS do marketing deals for big AAA third party games this generation like Yakuza Like A Dragon, Battlefield 2042, Cyberpunk, etc.
They're constantly securing timed exclusives for Game Pass like The Medium, The Ascent, Tunic, 12 Minutes, etc. Last gen they secured games like Tomb Raider.
They announced several permanent or indefinite term third party exclusives like Stalker 2, Contraband, Scorn, Routine, and recently: the new Kojima game. Last gen they got Remedy, Insomniac, and Crytek to make them Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive and Ryse.
They have a deal with EA to put EA Play on Game Pass, which is conveniently not available for PS+ unless you subscribe separately. Persona 5 left the PS+ Collection (which no other game previously has) this year, while it was conveniently announced to be coming to Xbox later this year with the rest of the Personas, and some with exclusive current gen versions.
There is clearly nothing preventing MS from continuing to make these deals, because there is clearly evidence of them continuing to make these deals.
What this comes down to is you guys being upset that Sony keeps securing big games like FF16 as timed exclusive, while MS is worried about making bullshyt like Phantasy Star Online 2 exclusive to XSX for 2 years.
The fact that MS is cutting these same type of deals makes your post complete fanboy nonsense. I'll repeat what I said in the other thread in point form so its easy for yall to understand.
We just saw MS do marketing deals for big AAA third party games this generation like Yakuza Like A Dragon, Battlefield 2042, Cyberpunk, etc.
They're constantly securing timed exclusives for Game Pass like The Medium, The Ascent, Tunic, 12 Minutes, etc. Last gen they secured games like Tomb Raider.
They announced several permanent or indefinite term third party exclusives like Stalker 2, Contraband, Scorn, Routine, and recently: the new Kojima game. Last gen they got Remedy, Insomniac, and Crytek to make them Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive and Ryse.
They have a deal with EA to put EA Play on Game Pass, which is conveniently not available for PS+ unless you subscribe separately. Persona 5 left the PS+ Collection (which no other game previously has) this year, while it was conveniently announced to be coming to Xbox later this year with the rest of the Personas, and some with exclusive current gen versions.
There is clearly nothing preventing MS from continuing to make these deals, because there is clearly evidence of them continuing to make these deals.
What this comes down to is you guys being upset that Sony keeps securing big games like FF16 as timed exclusive, while MS is worried about making bullshyt like Phantasy Star Online 2 exclusive to XSX for 2 years.
None of that entails keeping content off playstation or preventing the devs from doing deals with sonys services.
Small indies need funding and marketing and most times don’t have the resources to drop a game on 6 platforms at once. The marketing/exclusive deals help them pay their bills while they finish the game. These are a net positive for the industry and consumers, Sony does these deals too. Nobody is complaining about Sifu or Kena.
2nd party deals where they fund the game. Nobody is complaining about bloodborne.
Sony turned down EA play, and removed persona. Don’t have shyt to do with xbox
They decided it wasn’t a winning strategy because sony has all the power. They were being left with scraps due to sony’s practices.
Sony is literally paying and forcing devs to NOT put content on xbox
Game was out on PS4-5 vita etc for years.
This is up to sega bringing the game to the U.S.
In all of this you try to conflate very different situations.
Sony continually pays devs NOT to put content on xbox and forces devs to sign anti-competitive contracts in order to do business with them.
There are zero recent examples of microsoft doing the same. They shifted their strategy when they decided to expand their own studios.
he fact that MS is cutting these same type of deals makes your post complete fanboy nonsense. I'll repeat what I said in the other thread in point form so its easy for yall to understand.
We just saw MS do marketing deals for big AAA third party games this generation like Yakuza Like A Dragon, Battlefield 2042, Cyberpunk, etc.
They're constantly securing timed exclusives for Game Pass like The Medium, The Ascent, Tunic, 12 Minutes, etc. Last gen they secured games like Tomb Raider.
They announced several permanent or indefinite term third party exclusives like Stalker 2, Contraband, Scorn, Routine, and recently: the new Kojima game. Last gen they got Remedy, Insomniac, and Crytek to make them Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive and Ryse.
They have a deal with EA to put EA Play on Game Pass, which is conveniently not available for PS+ unless you subscribe separately. Persona 5 left the PS+ Collection (which no other game previously has) this year, while it was conveniently announced to be coming to Xbox later this year with the rest of the Personas, and some with exclusive current gen versions.
There is clearly nothing preventing MS from continuing to make these deals, because there is clearly evidence of them continuing to make these deals.
What this comes down to is you guys being upset that Sony keeps securing big games like FF16 as timed exclusive, while MS is worried about making bullshyt like Phantasy Star Online 2 exclusive to XSX for 2 years.
Microsoft is not making the same kind of deals. It's really just that simple.
You keep going on about timed exclusives, when that's not even the big thing. Everybody does it and expects it
It's really the parity clauses from Sony doing 2 things, creating exclusives and locking out other content and systems.
It's not something exclusive to Sony they all do it to protect themselves and the consumer. However Sonys are strict, and invasive and because they are the market share if you have to bend to one of the 3 you probably bending to Sony unless you taking a bag from MS because you can't meet or don't have the resources to fulfill it.
It's crazy you think MS is just skipping out on like final fantasy, and all the premium square games some how don't make it to Xbox.
Okay. A documented history of the same shyt is put in your face and yall still wanna Juelz.
Point is .... THEY ALL DO IT AND HAVE DONE IT. EVEN NINTENDO
“Have done” is the operative word. Microsoft’s current strategy doesn’t employ those practices.
Phil denounced them a while ago and had thus far stood by his word.
“Have done” is the operative word. Microsoft’s current strategy doesn’t employ those practices.
Phil denounced them a while ago and had thus far stood by his word.
Man please, the same Phil that has been promising every year this?
This same Phil?????
All facts, but because nobody has leaked the details of the contracts microsoft signs people will just assume publishers and developers are making these decisions themselves.The fact that MS is cutting these same type of deals makes your post complete fanboy nonsense. I'll repeat what I said in the other thread in point form so its easy for yall to understand.
We just saw MS do marketing deals for big AAA third party games this generation like Yakuza Like A Dragon, Battlefield 2042, Cyberpunk, etc.
They're constantly securing timed exclusives for Game Pass like The Medium, The Ascent, Tunic, 12 Minutes, etc. Last gen they secured games like Tomb Raider.
They announced several permanent or indefinite term third party exclusives like Stalker 2, Contraband, Scorn, Routine, and recently: the new Kojima game. Last gen they got Remedy, Insomniac, and Crytek to make them Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive and Ryse.
They have a deal with EA to put EA Play on Game Pass, which is conveniently not available for PS+ unless you subscribe separately. Persona 5 left the PS+ Collection (which no other game previously has) this year, while it was conveniently announced to be coming to Xbox later this year with the rest of the Personas, and some with exclusive current gen versions.
There is clearly nothing preventing MS from continuing to make these deals, because there is clearly evidence of them continuing to make these deals.
What this comes down to is you guys being upset that Sony keeps securing big games like FF16 as timed exclusive, while MS is worried about making bullshyt like Phantasy Star Online 2 exclusive to XSX for 2 years.
Like why would Atlus deliberately choose to only release next gen enhancements for Xbox when playstation is where most people play those games? It's obvious they signed a contract, but because the details haven't leaked people assume they're doing it for shyts and giggles.
You've seen the parity clauses for Nintendo and Xbox?
The court documents provided by MS and Sony are for the same thing but drawn up very different.
The thing that they all do is reach out for timed exclusives
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like i said, they all do it. All of em.
Not even sure why you keep posting this dumb shyt. Has nothing to do with what i said and it isn’t and never has been the indictment you think it is.Man please, the same Phil that has been promising every year this?
This same Phil?????
This is just sony stan fan fiction. It’s all coming out in court and microsoft’s contracts have been leaked plenty of times.
It’s only sony doing this shyt right now. And if y’all actually cared about fairness or consumers you’d admit that.
But all you really care about is defending sony at all costs
