The UFO/UAP disclosure thread
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I was having an interesting conversation along these lines a while back with someone, we associate aliens purely with being extraterrestrial, but what if they were indigenous inhabitants of this planet before our species? What if they were extraterrestrial but are now dozens of generations into being inhabitants of earth?
With so much being unknown, there is very little that justifies our perception of aliens. They very well could be humans from another planet or galaxy and are indistinguishable from us. The concept of "little green men" or "the greys" feels like man made fan fiction because the truth would be a lot less fantastic.
That's what Lou Elizondo (the former head of AATIP) has been hinting at in multiple interviews. Perhaps we were unable to detect them before, but they've been living here forever
Can you flesh out what you mean by this biologically? Like, a different line of humans that somehow evolved far faster than ours but left no trace in the historical record? Or a different line of lifeforms entirely, but which only produced one single intelligent lifeform and not all the other low-level forms that would have had to lead up to it?
Are you talking like some sort of genetic seeding where humans were planted on many different planets?
Agreed, because grays straight up appeared in sci fi almost immediately before they were first reported in alien abduction stories. However, FWIW the idea that humans have been planted all over the galaxy and other aliens are humans too is a sci fi trope as well.
How come none of you are doing anything about this?
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Only as far as we know today
I'm not saying that something can't happen in real life just because it's a science fiction trope. I'm saying that we should be skeptical of eyewitness reports that develop soon after science fiction tropes.
The idea that humans were seeded on a bunch of different planets has been in science fiction a long time (Ringworld, Hainish Cycle, etc.). That doesn't mean it couldn't have happened, though it's not easy to see how it would happen considering how much of the evolutionary process we are able to follow.
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"I should also state clearly for the record that, in our research, AARO has found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, offworld technology, or objects that defy the known laws of physics."
That's a strong blow to a lot of earlier claims that were made by supposed experts who exaggerated their degree of involvement in the relevant government studies. Also, really doesn't sound like something the government would say if they were planning on 'disclosure' anytime soon.
That's a strong blow to a lot of earlier claims that were made by supposed experts who exaggerated their degree of involvement in the relevant government studies. Also, really doesn't sound like something the government would say if they were planning on 'disclosure' anytime soon.
what i find interesting is how some of these guys seem to specifically qualify their statements with comments like "..found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, offworld technology, or objects that defy the known laws of physics..." it's as if they're intentionally avoiding making statements that would close the door on the possibility that it could be terrestrial activity or onworld technology or laws of physics they may be aware of, but unknown to the general public and/or that our scientists are unable to replicate or apply.
admittedly i'm a bit of a alien/ufo/uap agnostic. i'm not fully convinced they're "aliens", but i do believe there are examples of unexplainable encounters and likely secret intel not available to the public and/or covered up. whether it's because they don't really know what it is, or they have an idea of what it is, but it's not of human origin (as we know it) and want to control the narrative or some other justifiable reason (in their minds), or some other reason altoger like misdirection.
i just find it very interesting that after all this time of denying, then pivoting to there may be something, then actually allocating funds to further exploration and releasing statements and teaser footage....this, to me, suggests they're working their way up to an event and/or priming us for the day when they can no longer keep the geenie in the bottle. i guess i'm just a bit more open minded and can accept there may be things we don't know that we don't know about this topic.
Keep in mind that AAROW hasn't even really started doing it's work yet.
The Pentagon has not released funding for the AARO UAP program because it is still in the early stages of development. The program was created in November 2021, and it is still working to develop its capabilities and collect data. The Pentagon has said that it will release funding for the program once it has a better understanding of its needs.
There are a few reasons why the Pentagon may be hesitant to release funding for the AARO UAP program. First, the program is controversial. Some people believe that the program is a waste of money, while others believe that it is important to investigate UAPs. The Pentagon may be waiting to see how the program is received before it releases funding.
Second, the Pentagon may be waiting to see if the program is successful. The program is still in the early stages of development, and it is not yet clear if it will be able to identify and explain UAPs. The Pentagon may want to wait and see if the program is successful before it releases funding.
Finally, the Pentagon may be waiting for more information about UAPs. The program is working to collect data on UAPs, but it does not have a lot of information yet. The Pentagon may want to wait until it has more information about UAPs before it releases funding.
The Pentagon has said that it is committed to investigating UAPs, and it is likely that the program will eventually receive funding. However, the Pentagon is taking a cautious approach, and it is not yet clear when the program will be fully funded.
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Biologically the original species. We are an intentionally modified genetic version or an evolutionary offspring of previous versions. If we start with the premise that the earth came into existence tens of millions, if not billions, of years ago, then all species would have evolved or devolved thousands of times over. Every organism known to us plays a role in the ecosystem ( nature ) other than our species. Yet through the thousands of years of recorded human history we've only identified minor evolutions of certain species that exist today and a short list of extinct species.
If we set dogma, ancient stories, and beliefs to the side and look at it from a purely logical standpoint, if everything in our existence is the product of evolution, why have we only seen behavioral adaptations and no real signs of genetic evolution (micro) in our existence? When did evolution decide to start and then stop?
Seeding, no. More like a natural desire to preserve life through migration based on behavioral or circumstantial adaptation.
That plays into the idea that homo sapiens have only existed here on earth and nowhere else in an existence that appears to be infinite. Only man's ego could make him believe he was made in the image of an omnipotent being or is solely that being's greatest creation.
I was really into studying evolutionary psychology in college. Humans, in our current form, are still very young in evolutionary terms. Evolution can take a very, very long time.
But this is killing the premise many posters were holding back in 2020, which was that the Pentagon already knows all about extraterrestrials and is just looking for the right way to disclose it to the public.
There's been certain con men "sources" posted here who have claimed the government is already in possession of off-world material, or reverse-engineering alien spacecraft, or even in contact with extraterrestrials. And this is the top Pentagon official testifying under oath that those narratives are false.
Again, all of which goes against the narrative that the Pentagon already has a ton of info and is only deciding how to disclose it.
Are you claiming that the same species would have evolved multiple times independently? That's virtually impossible, the genetic code is far too complex for that. It's like saying that just because there's billions of people on Earth, someone with your same DNA is going to be born somewhere else so you have an unrelated person who is still your twin. Nah, that shyt doesn't happen.
Humans are a very specific type of advanced primate that comes as the product of a long chain of tens of millions of years of mammal evolution which couldn't even really begin until the dinosaurs died out. The first very primitive primates appeared ~65 million years ago, the first monkeys around 25 million years ago, and the first apes around 10-15 million years ago. The human evolutionary line split from the chimpanzee line around 6 million years ago, our Homo genus about 2 million years ago and our exact species around 300,000 years ago.
I'm not seeing where in that process you could have had our species appear again and again in different ways. The precursors for it to evolve from just didn't exist.
Of course we play a role in the natural ecosystem. We just happen to have inserted ourselves into a lot of extra ecosystems in addition to our original role. But other species do that too when they invade new areas.
Major evolutionary changes in large organisms take tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of years. We've only been classifying species scientifically for about 400 years and we've been looking at their DNA for just 60 years, so you're exaggerating how much observation has been going on. But when artificially helped along the process can go much faster. In human history we've seen dramatic genetic changes in crops and livestock. Dogs today are very different genetically from the wolves our ancestors adopted 10,000 years ago. Corn bears hardly any resemblance to the wild grain it was derived from.
Breh, you literally just watched Covid evolve genetically multiple times in the course of three years. To claim we haven't seen genetic evolution is ridiculous. Or look at the bacteria that evolve antibiotic resistance - that's a clear genetic evolution that we've seen occur in real time.
Of course, bacteria can double every hour and viruses can produce tens of thousands of copies of themselves every few hours. And they are composed of comparatively few genes, thus dramatic changes are easier. Whereas more complex beings that take years to grow up and are composed of tens of thousands of genes are going to evolve much, much slower.
