The UFO/UAP disclosure thread

MIKE SPLEAN

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From what Mellon, Reid, and Elizondo have stated-- the original footage is properly high definition. It's intentionally degraded to conceal our capabilities from adversaries. Remember how folks in the intelligence community were flipping out when Trump tweeted that image from one of our spy satellites? Actual experts on satellite imagery were stunned that it could take such detailed images-- they thought it was from a drone or plane. Former DNI Director Ratcliffe said we have satellite imagery of these things as well-- so that further corroborates that the available data is hi res.

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I was wondering if anyone actually read this entire article and what they thought about it? It's by someone who quite seriously writes on military technology for a living.

Adversary Drones Are Spying On The U.S. And The Pentagon Acts Like They're UFOs


He qualifies that he's not trying to explain "all" the sightings this way, but pushes very strongly that some if not most of the sightings near military craft are due to this effort. The part where I'm not entirely sure if he's accurate is where he suggests that the Pentagon is not taking them seriously. I would assume that if the Chinese/Russians have been getting the drop on US forces, the Pentagon would not publicize that at all and purposely leave other options on the table, both so that it doesn't look bad in general and more specifically so the Chinese/Russians are left guessing what the DOD does and doesn't know regarding their incursions.
 

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Just remember the most important statements the report can make is it’s unidentified and it’s not US tech. Those two statements if made are game changers. Can’t walk back from that. The US has a military budget greater than the next 10 countries combined. That shyt ain’t China or Russia and they just waiting for everybody else to realize it.
 

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Weird he doesn't mention spheres which are way more common than "tic tacs'. Otherwise he's just repeating shyt about sightings that's public information.



And someone explain to me where my calculations are wrong, cause he's not making any sense:

Elizondo describes the triangles as moving slowly, then he claims that the changing colors of their lights could be the result of a "Doppler shift".

A visible doppler shift in light only happens at insane speeds, it's the sort of thing you use to measure how fast entire galaxies are flying through space. To achieve a red to blue doppler shift, you'd need to be traveling about several hundred million miles an hour. In other words, FAR too fast to even tell the object was ever there, much less watch its lights change color.

It would seem this is one of those lazy moments where he's just parroting scientific terms without even doing any background research and assuming he'll get a pass cause his audience doesn't understand what those words mean either. Why would you think it was a doppler shift when you can just saying, "it was a plane with multiple different lights of different colors"?



edit: He also claims that extremophiles have forced us to come up with new definitions of life and redefine what a life form is. Then he gives examples are stretching the point - neither a lifeform based on thermal vents outside photosythetic chains nor a virus based on RNA forced any meaningful reconsideration of wh
 
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Yo, an 80-minute conversation and he didn't say anything other than "I don't know" or "I can't tell you." Can you point to ONE new piece of information learned from the conversation? Any one new thing he shared at all?



In that clip he says that the disclosure will be a whole lot of nothing because, "At this point we still don't know if these things are some kind of foreign adversarial technology or if they're something else.....There's not a whole lot you can say about that.....We still don't know what we're dealing with." So those who think that Elizondo has any information about ET or ET tech at all, does this mean he's lying now when he says they don't know? And doesn't this contradict things he said in other podcasts as well as a lot of things Tom DeLonge has said in the past?



"The UAP task force was only 2 people working part-time" and that's why the government doesn't know much. Then he goes on for a long time juelzing about why the government doesn't have anything interesting to put into the report, even claiming that six months isn't enough time to analyze the data (shouldn't the data already have been analyzed?) and saying that Covid has gotten in the way lol. Doesn't that at the very least re-confirm that this is something the government doesn't take seriously? And that the government obviously doesn't have a "disclosure" moment forthcoming like many have assumed?



Yet later at the end of the interview, when asked how the public would react if they knew what he knew, he said they would be "somber....there would be an exhalation for a day then a turning inwards to try and understand what this means for our species and ourselves....people will have serious soul-searching to do." Um, I'm sorry, that sounds like a lot of bullshyt when you already said at the beginning of the interview that you don't even have any answers and don't even know ?



Sort of crazy to me when he was asked about mutilations and says that he doesn't have any idea cause he's not a medical doctor....so did he just ignore mutilation events the entire time he was "running" AATIP? Never once consulted a medical doctor or got informed on the subject all those years, just ignored it?



His juelzing about NDAs was sensitive as fukk, he just repeated the same emotional shyt for 10 minutes. Basically said that even if the future of society is at stake he wouldn't break an NDA because it would be like cheating on his wife and his own personal integrity in not breaking promises is more important than his responsibility to civilization. :mjlol:



After all that bullshyt about NDAs, he refused to give any direct answers about Skinwalker Ranch even though that wouldn't have anything to do with his NDAs, that was all Robert Bigelow and totally outside of Elizondo's government work. He just juelzed for 10 minutes about the size of the universe without even starting to give any information about events at Skinwalker Ranch or share anything useful at all.



Quite interesting that he says he's never met Bob Lazar and knows nothing about him or whether anything he says is credible.



LOL at saying that he's not into self-promoting and that he doesn't get paid to do this. :russ:
 
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Luis Elizondo is actually the main reason why I lost so much initial interest in the whole AATIP/UAP Pentagon disclosure, etc a few years ago. I have no idea what his endgame is but he's mastered the art of telling you absolutely nothing new or providing any updates about the topic. But he sure loves to get on TV or on stage and put up a front like he's about to open the floodgates with revelations.
 

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Do we really think that this report would ever confirm this to be a secret US technology? Seeing people rule that out just because the report says so is laughable.
 
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