If they are i must have missed it ..most of the campaigns against these issues are full of misandry..i have yet to see one PSA that shows a male victim,Every sitcom dad is a bumbling idiot ,and please tell me this ad would ever air if the genders were reversed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mjRU6b4ecw
They might be full of negative stereotypes against men, but the problem is discerning where they come from, and the answer isn't "women created them." That ad you've shown is a perfect example. It was a Super Bowl ad, which is the biggest male audience of any event year-round. Men are meant to be the audience for that ad. And who produced it? Do you think women are in charge at most ad agencies? The idea that an ad that depicts a nagging, controlling wife is just misandry and nothing else is a curious one, too... I'm not sure how you don't see where that wife stereotype fits in.
It could also be argued that they are trying to raise awareness..the beginnings of any movement are always ugly and disorganized
It could be, but that would be a difficult argument to support, seeing as inchoate anger and bitterness doesn't do much for anyone.
Patriachy itself is a structure that actually benefits women far more than most people appreciate by placing nearly all the labor ,risk and responsibility on male shoulders.. matriarchy just takes most of the reward and some of the risk and still leaves the male as disposable labor...realistically none of those systems really benefits men...odd how that works.
All the labor, risk, and responsibility? This assumes that labor doesn't include domestic work, for one, which is a strange position. It's well documented that more women are primary caretakers for their children, and for non-child relatives, than men are. If that doesn't count as labor and responsibility, I don't know what to tell you, but of course, that cognitive bias itself is male in origin. As for risk- men aren't nearly as at risk for things like rape or domestic violence as women are, so it depends on how you define risk. Men are more likely to die in combat, yes, or be murdered (almost always by other men.) The other point that I find interesting here is that you don't see what labor, risk, and responsibility being taken on by men implies for women- in other words, less actual freedom. It's not as if women are enjoying great autonomy while men are taking on all those burdens. Additionally, among working women, most of them with kids take care of the children in addition to working full time- does that look to you like a society in which men take on most of the burdens?
As for matriarchy- it doesn't exist anywhere in the US, so I'm not sure what you're getting at with that, nor is it the goal of any mass movement, women's rights/feminism included.
True ive seen that too..most of these women tho are not feminists at least not the ones im used to seeing
I'm glad we can agree on this, but I don't know what feminists you're used to seeing. MRAs, like racists, love to use the minority of women who are extremists or believe in female domination or hating men or whatever else as representatives of feminism in general. As someone who has worked closely with womens' rights organizations in the past, I have honestly never met any such people in my life.
Are we talking about the same feminism that has turned family court into a nightmare for fathers,given false rape accusers immunity from prosecution,virtually destroyed families,removed any integrity from the divorce courts...its hard to take that seriously
Feminism isn't responsible for those things. That's an absurd suggestion, breh. How can a movement that was meant to destroy the stereotypes about women (like the stereotype that women are naturally caretakers, homemakers) be responsible for
increased custody bias against men, which depends on exactly that same stereotype?
As for false rape accusers, here's an estimate of how that looks (drawn from government stats, and then edited to include more false accusers):
As you can see, we could double, triple, quadruple, even multiply the number by 10, or even 20... it still wouldn't approach the number of actual rapes. It's not nearly as significant a problem as MRAs want it to be (which is not to say it doesn't happen.)
As for "destroying families," that's a ridiculous assertion. Considering, especially among Black folks, that most children are raised by single mothers and not fathers, I'm not sure how the women can be held responsible for "destroying the family," since they are integral parts of what family units do exist. More generally, though, you'd have to explain how feminism was responsible for whatever "family destruction" you're pointing to. Sounds to me like you've been getting your story on this issue straight from the MRAs, and not from actual history.
I agree the MRA movement could use a little less anger and a little more focus but we cant just write them off like that.
The point isn't to write them off. The point is that the "good" MRAs are already feminists, they just don't realize it yet, and they have no real reason to align themselves with the angry and bitter crowd that make up the majority of the visible movement. I know that you're not a homophobe, for example. The vast majority of MRAs are. Why? Because there's a split in the movement itself, between people who see that the rigid gender roles are the problem, and those who are confused and either hold a contradictory position about them or simply want to re-entrench them further (this latter group makes up the majority.)