The term Black or African American & Nationality

[Blackking]

i just told you, your passport tells you what your nationality is, black americans or african americans or americans

the UN cannot give you a nationality, i dont know what would give you that idea, if you want a nationality you have to have your own nation, but you cannot have a separate nationality while living in another nation unless you are an immigrant, that is why african/black americans' nationality is american

Don't you feel It's kinda weird to call yourself a nationality that you or your ancestors didn't even migrate to? If you are kidnapped today and woke up in Russia...and couldn't leave - are your children Russian? AfricanRussian?

 

[theworldismine13]

My passport says my Nationality is: United States of America.

So according to the Department of State your Passport Nationality is the country of your birth and/or where you hold your citenzship.

What is recognized by International Law is totally different.

no its not, you are basically full of shyt and you dont know what the hell you are talking about

in fact its the opposite of what you are trying to say, the only internationally recognized "thing" that identifies your nationality is a passport, if you dont have a passport you are stateless and nationless because no country will recognize you

 

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[GMOGMediaTV]

i just told you, your passport tells you what your nationality is, black americans or african americans or americans

the UN cannot give you a nationality, i dont know what would give you that idea, if you want a nationality you have to have your own nation, but you cannot have a separate nationality while living in another nation unless you are an immigrant, that is why african/black americans' nationality is american

no its not, you are basically full of shyt and you dont know what the hell you are talking about

in fact its the opposite of what you are trying to say, the only internationally recognized "thing" that identifies your nationality is a passport, if you dont have a passport you are stateless and nationless because no country will recognize you

And what exactly does your passport say?

 

[theworldismine13]

Don't you feel It's kinda weird to call yourself a nationality that you or your ancestors didn't even migrate to? If you are kidnapped today and woke up in Russia...and couldn't leave - are your children Russian? AfricanRussian?

what you call yourself and your nationality are 2 different things, there are a lot of people that have russian nationality but arent russian

as to your hypothetical, lets put it this way, i would not allow myself or my kids to become stateless people without a passport, that is the the first thing, but i would be flexible about what we call ourselves

 

[WaveGang]

So what are you saying?

Moors weren't or were black?
Europeans didn't know about West Africa until the Moors told them?
We are or are not moors, in your opinion?

offcourse the moors were black, but they were under arab rule. This is just basic stuff, nothing outlandish
The first public sale of African slaves took place in Lagos, Portugal. 1441, during the last years of Moorish rule. Which one can only speculate was a peace offering by the Moors/Arab to not have their arses whipped while their empire declined slowly. I actually had the figures for tha mount of Moors in Iberia before n after the expulsion which is interesting



Those victims of African Diaspora are from all over Africa, no one set place. It's clear the Moors played a part in the exploitation of the black nation as slaves, and were slaves themselves to the Arab empire.

Claiming to be Moors is another destination where lack of knowledge has led the Black Nation

 

[Blackking]

what you call yourself and your nationality are 2 different things, there are a lot of people that have russian nationality but arent russian

as to your hypothetical, lets put it this way, i would not allow myself or my kids to become stateless people without a passport, that is the the first thing, but i would be flexible about what we call ourselves

lol @ you saying ... as to my hypothetical, but then not answering the question.

 

[theworldismine13]

And what exactly does your passport say?

it says im american, what else is it suppose to say?

 

[GMOGMediaTV]

no its not, you are basically full of shyt and you dont know what the hell you are talking about

in fact its the opposite of what you are trying to say, the only internationally recognized "thing" that identifies your nationality is a passport, if you dont have a passport you are stateless and nationless because no country will recognize you

it says im american, what else is it suppose to say?

That's my point.

My ancestry has nothing to do with America.

 

[theworldismine13]

lol @ you saying ... as to my hypothetical, but then not answering the question.

i dont have any strong opinions about labels, the only label i dont like and i dont want my hypothetical kids to be called is ****** and nikka, but to me african or black is the same difference, african russian is fine with me

 

[theworldismine13]

That's my point.

My ancestry has nothing to do with America.

that's true of all americans except native americans, what's your point?

 

[GMOGMediaTV]

that's true of all americans except native americans, what's your point?

I already stated my point.

If you don't understand or you think i'm full of shyt I could care less.

Move on.

 

[Blackking]

offcourse the moors were black, but they were under arab rule. This is just basic stuff, nothing outlandish
The first public sale of African slaves took place in Lagos, Portugal. 1441, during the last years of Moorish rule. Which one can only speculate was a peace offering by the Moors/Arab to not have their arses whipped while their empire declined slowly. I actually had the figures for tha mount of Moors in Iberia before n after the expulsion which is interesting



Those victims of African Diaspora are from all over Africa, no one set place. It's clear the Moors played a part in the exploitation of the black nation as slaves, and were slaves themselves to the Arab empire.

Claiming to be Moors is another destination where lack of knowledge has led the Black Nation

So basically...Africans had African slaves.... African's continued to have African slaves... but some of the owners were under Arab rule - so the Africans who owned those slaves were forced to enslave Africans????

So none of the black tribal leaders who converted to Islam and then went on to conquer parts of Europe had control over their own motivations or ideas??... they were just sheep unable to think for themselves and only woke up and ate breakfast because Arabs told them to? That's crazy because even when CAC got together in France and other places to push back against these nikkas.... some of the white people didn't want to participate in the slaughter. I guess only Arabs and whites could think for themselves back in the day..


Anyway, I do agree that we shouldnt be running around calling ourselves moors.

 

[theworldismine13]

I already stated my point.

If you don't understand or you think i'm full of shyt I could care less.

Move on.

the most significant document when it come to identification in "International Law" is a passport, that is the main thing you need to understand, there isnt anything else that supersedes that

if we want to talk about forming our own nation of Moors that issues its own passports that is a legit topic, but its not legit to suggest that being a moor is a type of nationality or citizenship, that is pure BS, moors are not recognized internationally because there is no nation called moors, you cant be part of a nation that doesnt exist

 

[Blackking]

i dont have any strong opinions about labels, the only label i dont like and i dont want my hypothetical kids to be called is ****** and nikka, but to me african or black is the same difference, african russian is fine with me

nikka please.

I'm joking- I don't use the urban terms around people who don't like it... but about calling yourself African Russian... in that situation you can't see how you remain a pointless powerless pet under Russian control in that position. The Jews got fukked over in Europe.. they could have stayed there after what happened. They didn't have a land... You can't be completely clueless as to why even with owning banks, even with having unity and economic power blacks... they decided that having 1 land and 1 place was the most important thing to fight for and continue to fight for. Sure they could not have Israel, but they would have been the step children of their 'nationality' lands. The oppression would have continued. They were smarter than that.. and that's why even those who live in the fake lands that stamps their passports... they still fund, support, and lobby for Israel as a group, for the most part.

We have separated from African culturally and geographically so I don't think we can just say African this and that. That word is even a CAC word. We need something more unifying.