The term Black or African American & Nationality

[WaveGang]

CAn u confirm this accurately my breh?

shyt started off with
Started off with an Arab General Amr ibn al-'As, who rose through the ranks in Arabia after converting to Islam in 629. Prophet Muhammad died in 632. by 640 he led an Army to invade Syria, Palestine, Egypt etc which the Romans had taken from Black People.

by 670 Uqba ibn Nafi had taken over, nephew of Amr ibn al-'As who began Islamic conquest of the Maghreb Where the muslims took present-day Algeria, Tunisia, Libya and Morocco
The Umayyad Caliphate ( was the second of the four major Islamic caliphates established after the death of Muhammad.

A caliphate is an Islamic state led by a supreme religious as well as political leader known as a caliph (meaning literally a successor, i.e., a successor to Islamic prophet Muhammad

Amr ibn al-'As
'Amr ibn al-'As - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tariq ibn Ziyad- led the Muslim conquest of Spain. The name "Gibraltar" is the Spanish derivation of the Arabic name Jabal Tāriq meaning "mountain of Tariq",[named after him. Jibal Al Tarik- Gibraltar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_ibn_Ziyad

Muslim conquest of North Africa
Muslim conquest of the Maghreb - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Umayyad
Umayyad Caliphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Umayyad Caliphate at its greatest extent.

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mb for the presentation, not in the mood to type. my hands fukked

 

[WaveGang]

you get the message though, its just historical fact. Anybody with minimal knowledge of history can tell you this

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Yall are American Africans imo, to me yall are a tribe within a nation of other formerly captive Africans on the Western Hemisphere forming a Greater Diaspora not to be confused with the much later African Diaspora formed from the modern civil/political unrest of the continent. Like a Brazilian African and an American African may look similar in that their black but of course they're different in terms of culture, aside from their blackness what links them is the oppression they've faced through the generations. So to me yall are part of a much larger group spanning all of the Americas where slavery left its mark. Kind of like I'm an African but I'm an Ethiopian in terms of tribe, nation, culture, etc and you could have another African that's Togolese in their own right, we're both Africans and black but we go about it in different ways. Yall are part of a huge population of Africans that came here through the same fateful boat ride, yall were the ones that survived all the bullshyt thus far. Yall struggle is one of the many for black people throughout the Americas.

Whether or not those were Moors is up to the knowledge we have but I wouldn't call all of yall Moors since many of the Africans had religions and cultures contrary to Moorish character.

 

[RAX 010]

Wikipedia Tho @HoopDreams94

Those are not credible sources however i will take your word for it until i conduct my own independent research of course

 

[GMOGMediaTV]

You can accept the term 'Black' or African American all you want but again that is not a recognized Nationality through International Law.

 

[RAX 010]

MOORS GATE

 

[Supercoolmayo]

You can accept the term 'Black' or African American all you want but again that is not a recognized Nationality through International Law.

Why not just be an American then? Thats a nationality no?

 

[theworldismine13]

hell the fuk no, we are not moors

 

[theworldismine13]

You can accept the term 'Black' or African American all you want but again that is not a recognized Nationality through International Law.

to be recognized internationally all you need is a passport, your passport tells you what your nationality is

 

[GMOGMediaTV]

Why not just be an American then? Thats a nationality no?

Lists of people by nationality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

International Law recognizes 'Americans' as a Nationality but how are so called 'Black Americans' or African Americans recognized is the real question

The answer is those terms legally aren't recognized as I already previously stated.

We just need to step to the UN and come up with a Universally accepted Nationality.

 

[Blackking]

That's the whole point. The term 'Black' isn't legally recognized as a nationality in international law.

My thing is if us 'blacks' trace our ancestral lineage back to Africa. Then we will see what nation our bloodline/ancestry is from.

I think we need to do a consensus on this to find out how many of us come from the many nations of Africa.

Once we establish a consensus we can than go about deciding on a name that we can approach the UN with.

1. Are we really ready to separate?? Meaning the masses... we can't bring up these points with still being uncomfortable at the idea of not being the US governments/societies bottom of the barrier pets and entertainment. I don't know many black people who are ready for that leap.

2. The lines in Africa were influenced by cac colonies. The word Africa, and the fact that we are here in N and South America.. are because CAC, so I say call it black... that is the thing that identifies us. Actually we are brown, but still... we are known as the black race and black power has a good ring to it.

3. What would that show the world if American blacks sparked this movement. It would show a lot.. plus the world seems to be on some hyper revolutionary shyt right now (I'm not sure y??) So they would hop on the shyt on the US bandwagon... and CAC in the US would push back against blacks hard... and as we see from slave revolts, the 1930's , 1950's and 60's that push back is covert, effective and fierce... Do we have the unity to push back against that shyt? Plus we have madd snakes.. look at it like this.. nikkas go to jail forever - for committing crimes and murdering people. The nikkas who worked with the FBI to kill Malcolm X all got out of jail- 21 gun shots to his chest and nobody gets life. smh. other black people who betray black get rewarded with money, political positions and TV spots.

4. fukk international law.. what is that? At certain points international nations traded black people like stocks and bonds. Also, international law should have our government and military leaders in chains for international crimes... and our leaders are some of the least criminal in the world, tbh. Also international laws don't protect us from oppression in the US from 1800 - 2013 so fukk that. The UN needs to hear out black people as a group and recognize why should be considered a Nation. We are a nation. They illegally created the Nation of Israel and killed people to give those people a nation... The only group that actually deserves that type of treatment is us, imo.

 

[theworldismine13]

Lists of people by nationality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

International Law recognizes 'Americans' as a Nationality but how are so called 'Black Americans' or African Americans recognized is the real question

The answer is those terms legally aren't recognized as I already previously stated.

We just need to step to the UN and come up with a Universally accepted Nationality.

i just told you, your passport tells you what your nationality is, black americans or african americans or americans

the UN cannot give you a nationality, i dont know what would give you that idea, if you want a nationality you have to have your own nation, but you cannot have a separate nationality while living in another nation unless you are an immigrant, that is why african/black americans' nationality is american

 

[Blackking]

No, because we wouldn't have been called Moors. They're entirely different peoples however of the same race. Why do people not know The Moors were under Arab command? my sig stays relevant

I'm no advocate of blacks sold blacks into slavery as it is used as an excuse of white supremacy. But it's clear The Moors, arguably under arab wishes... Put the Portguese on to 'the people of the book' who had fled to West Africa and fallen under harsh times. After the end of Moorish (Arab) rule of Iberia (Portugal/Spain) the Moors put up a peace offering to get out there safely.

So what are you saying?

Moors weren't or were black?
Europeans didn't know about West Africa until the Moors told them?
We are or are not moors, in your opinion?

 

[GMOGMediaTV]

to be recognized internationally all you need is a passport, your passport tells you what your nationality is

My passport says my Nationality is: United States of America.

So according to the Department of State your Passport Nationality is the country of your birth and/or where you hold your citenzship.

What is recognized by International Law is totally different.

 

[WaveGang]

Wikipedia Tho @HoopDreams94

Those are not credible sources however i will take your word for it until i conduct my own independent research of course

thats why I bolded the key words for you to search, like I said its just basic history really. Nothing you cant find info on in 10secs