The term Black or African American & Nationality

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In my opinion the term African American should only be implied to some one who was born in Africa and moved to the USA.

Blacks born in America are Americans, of course you have African descent but you lived here your whole life and not even familiar with the African language your ancestors spoke.

Not trying to sound ignorant if it comes off that way either. Just my insight on the topic.
 

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In my opinion the term African American should only be implied to some one who was born in Africa and moved to the USA.

Blacks born in America are Americans, of course you have African descent but you lived here your whole life and not even familiar with the African language your ancestors spoke.

Not trying to sound ignorant if it comes off that way either. Just my insight on the topic.

I have to slightly disagree breh. As soon as an African or a Caribbean man comes to the US he subject to everything else a "black American" faces. Remember the Amadou Diallo shooting? He was treated no different than Sean Bell. I think an African can have a duality of being a black American and African (whatever nation or tribe h/she is from). Identities are complex but you can take great pride in all of it.

I have an identity as a Houstonian, Texan, Longhorn, Biafran (not Nigerian), Igbo, black or African American

I have just as much passion for the black American struggle as I do for the Biafran struggle. Both which are under control of elite whites that control this world. My dad who was born in Africa came here in the early 70s experienced serious racism when he stayed in Arkansas. Those experiences immediately aligned him with the mindset of what it was to be black in America. My dad was in Nigeria when the TM verdict came out and he was pissed off cause he identifies with TM even though he was born in Africa. Don't think that a lot of Africans are not riding with black Americans.
 

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I have to slightly disagree breh. As soon as an African or a Caribbean man comes to the US he subject to everything else a "black American" faces. Remember the Amadou Diallo shooting? He was treated no different than Sean Bell. I think an African can have a duality of being a black American and African (whatever nation or tribe h/she is from). Identities are complex but you can take great pride in all of it.

I have an identity as a Houstonian, Texan, Longhorn, Biafran (not Nigerian), Igbo, black or African American

I have just as much passion for the black American struggle as I do for the Biafran struggle. Both which are under control of elite whites that control this world. My dad who was born in Africa came here in the early 70s experienced serious racism when he stayed in Arkansas. Those experiences immediately aligned him with the mindset of what it was to be black in America. My dad was in Nigeria when the TM verdict came out and he was pissed off cause he identifies with TM even though he was born in Africa. Don't think that a lot of Africans are not riding with black Americans.

I never looked at it from that stance but that's a really good point.
 

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In my opinion the term African American should only be implied to some one who was born in Africa and moved to the USA.

Blacks born in America are Americans, of course you have African descent but you lived here your whole life and not even familiar with the African language your ancestors spoke.

Not trying to sound ignorant if it comes off that way either. Just my insight on the topic.

I'm a give you a dose of reality breh.

Blacks were never considered citizens of the United States of America. African American, Black, Negro all are considered 'Civiliter Mortuus which is latin for 'Dead in the eyes of the law'. The 14th amendment was designed to make artificial persons (people controlled by the government) out of natural persons. These terms such as, Black, Negro, African American are not living people that are not backed by a Nation with a flag.

We simply do not have the same rights and protection as naturalized white americans because the system was designed to protect and enable them.

Do your own research and you will begin to connect the dots. Until then this is just the reality until we all can bring awareness to this issue and come to a consensus about this.
 

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I'm a give you a dose of reality breh.

Blacks were never considered citizens of the United States of America. African American, Black, Negro all are considered 'Civiliter Mortuus which is latin for 'Dead in the eyes of the law'. The 14th amendment was designed to make artificial persons (people controlled by the government) out of natural persons. These terms such as, Black, Negro, African American are not living people that are not backed by a Nation with a flag.

We simply do not have the same rights and protection as naturalized white americans because the system was designed to protect and enable them.

Do your own research and you will begin to connect the dots. Until then this is just the reality until we all can bring awareness to this issue and come to a consensus about this.


You are preaching to the choir. My parents are from Nigeria. Named by the white man. Niger is latin for black. -ria means area. We went through a period of trying to establish independence from the rest of Nigeria only to be denied by the same UN that says they recognize the right to self-determination. The country of Nigeria is controlled by the British and its western allies til this day because its name and sovereignty comes from white people. That is power. In the same way, "black" "colored" "negroes" are named by whites and they even until today have a level of sovereignty over us.

Its the reason why I am against being called a Nigerian or even a Nigerian-American because I refuse to expect a name they my people were not called before the white man came and messed things up. So I'm on that double conscious. I have studied constitutional law and have already known that "blacks" are not and have never been US citizens. Citizens don't have to fight for Civil or Equal Rights. If you have to fight for it, you were never a citizen to begin with.
 

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I have to slightly disagree breh. As soon as an African or a Caribbean man comes to the US he subject to everything else a "black American" faces. Remember the Amadou Diallo shooting? He was treated no different than Sean Bell. I think an African can have a duality of being a black American and African (whatever nation or tribe h/she is from). Identities are complex but you can take great pride in all of it.

I have an identity as a Houstonian, Texan, Longhorn, Biafran (not Nigerian), Igbo, black or African American

I have just as much passion for the black American struggle as I do for the Biafran struggle. Both which are under control of elite whites that control this world. My dad who was born in Africa came here in the early 70s experienced serious racism when he stayed in Arkansas. Those experiences immediately aligned him with the mindset of what it was to be black in America. My dad was in Nigeria when the TM verdict came out and he was pissed off cause he identifies with TM even though he was born in Africa. Don't think that a lot of Africans are not riding with black Americans.

That would make you nigerian/biafran-american. Black american is a specific ethnic group much like jamaicans,trinidadians,kenyans etc We are our own group
 

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Crazy that we've been in this country for this long and still havent had a name to define us legally. Whatever name it is, it needs to simple and effective. I've always liked what Paul Mooney decided to call us.....Stolen Africans.
 

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I'm a give you a dose of reality breh.

Blacks were never considered citizens of the United States of America. African American, Black, Negro all are considered 'Civiliter Mortuus which is latin for 'Dead in the eyes of the law'. The 14th amendment was designed to make artificial persons (people controlled by the government) out of natural persons. These terms such as, Black, Negro, African American are not living people that are not backed by a Nation with a flag.

We simply do not have the same rights and protection as naturalized white americans because the system was designed to protect and enable them.

Do your own research and you will begin to connect the dots. Until then this is just the reality until we all can bring awareness to this issue and come to a consensus about this.
Good post. This is why I hate it when nikkas be fighting for that piece of shyt flag. In the military or Olympics. That is a cac symbol, nothing more. Lebron's gold medal is not the same as Michael Phelps. Notice how happy all the cacs get when Phelps wins. NBC was a Phelps Fest last year and in 08.

I wish people would stop supporting that "usa" shyt. It's bowing down to cacs. Don't sing that anthem, and fly a flag that reps black culture instead.
 

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Good post. This is why I hate it when nikkas be fighting for that piece of shyt flag. In the military or Olympics. That is a cac symbol, nothing more. Lebron's gold medal is not the same as Michael Phelps. Notice how happy all the cacs get when Phelps wins. NBC was a Phelps Fest last year and in 08.

I wish people would stop supporting that "usa" shyt. It's bowing down to cacs. Don't sing that anthem, and fly a flag that reps black culture instead.
well.. I'm not 100% against black men getting military training and getting their education paid for without loans... this isn't our nation, but we are trapped here - so it's hard to c00n it up with limited options. There are nikkas that might have been a destructive force for our communities that turned that shyt around in the military...

But I say red black green flag.. i went to school on academic scholarship - i didn't need to join the military, so yea.. I was c00nin hard, but anyway, I had the redblackgreen flag up at all times even on deployment.. CAC hated it, but couldn't say shyt.


The Olympics is an important stage. think about 1969 or whatever year that was that they raised the Black fist. I'm not against politics, sports, entertainment, or anything that gives us a stage- as long as we use it in the right way.
 
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