The term Black or African American & Nationality

[jadillac]

my skin is not black, it's brown. I've never met a black person before. If you look at a black cow, that's a true black. No human I've ever seen is that color black.

Black is just a faulty man-made label but it's not what you really are.

African-American is just as stupid to me, b/c some white families have only been in America for 2-3 generations and they go by "American"....meanwhile some black lineages have been here since the 1600's and are caled "African Americans"......it's all stupid.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

There 100% should be a separate Black Nation. With its own flag, anthem, Olympic team, everything.

Cacs would have little to celebrate. There would be no Dream Team for them anymore. It would be great. They should stick to their own, and stop mooching off others.

I'm sick of having to deal with the "stars n stripes" and dumb anthem. That shyt is for cacs.

Instead of wasting time on nonsense, we should unite to make a separate Black Nation a reality.

This yall flag whenever yall ready to claim it....

 

[The Coochie Assassin]

We're all Africans living in the Americas. Pick an African country. End of story.

Naw playa. I have a country already.

 

[CASHAPP]

my skin is not black, it's brown. I've never met a black person before. If you look at a black cow, that's a true black. No human I've ever seen is that color black.

Black is just a faulty man-made label but it's not what you really are.

African-American is just as stupid to me, b/c some white families have only been in America for 2-3 generations and they go by "American"....meanwhile some black lineages have been here since the 1600's and are caled "African Americans"......it's all stupid.

And no human I've ever seen is that color white....
















































No you have No retort so don't bother. Your point just failed. We are Black just understand that.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

We are black americans....you are born in America...that is your nation fukk what the UN says about it. Before America there were virtually no people that looked like most African people. Like it or not, we share european/native/African blood. That mix was an impossibility until a certain period of time. Basically what im saying is the "races" (i quote it because the term is flimsy and race doesn't really exist), that is truly found in America and ONLY america are Black people and Native americans.

 

[jadillac]

And no human I've ever seen is that color white....

No you have No retort so don't bother. Your point just failed. We are Black just understand that.

of course, nobody is white, nobody is red(Indians), nobody is yellow(Asian).......my point hasn't failed. YOU failed for believing in the tags the world/humans have placed on you. Humans are flawed b/c we are limited in ways we can describe things. But that doesnt mean the things we describe/label are actually what it is.

 

[RAX 010]

I dont usually agree with @theworldismine13

However some good points have been mentioned about focusing on education and organization

I really would like to give props and reps to all you brehs this thread is vital and i am excited to see us agree now we must put these plans in motion and argue some moor to decide what we will name our nation

As far as the flag :I would still like to see the stars and stripes in some fashion maybee rearranged or subdued red black and blue

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[Captain Crunch]

Alright, since people want consensus, I'll shoot some things I agree on.

1. Let's go to the UN as a collective to make our plight known internationally.

2. Support our businesses. The "Around The Way" app is a must have, it basically outlines black businesses in your city, and it's easy to add black businesses to it as well.

3. Practice group economics, stack up money a few G's with your family, to establish capital(businesses, real estate in developing markets like Detroit).

4. Create our own schools, it doesn't take much. If 5000 people in your neighborhood put up $600, that's $3 million, which should be enough in most areas to buy the land; construct the school, get permits, pay teachers and staff a yearly salary, insurance. If you have any ideas on curriculum, a good person to hit up would be Dr. Umar Johnson, you could tweet him Dr. Umar Johnson (DrUmarJohnson) on Twitter or text him(215-989-9858)

5. Pan-Africanism

6. Come up with a new name for us in America, and have a flag before we address the UN.

If any of you guys agree with anything I posted on, let me know, and I'll discuss it at length.

 

[Calmye]

Call me a Black African or black but I like being called African.

Africans don't consider you African tho

 

[theworldismine13]

Alright, since people want consensus, I'll shoot some things I agree on.

1. Let's go to the UN as a collective to make our plight known internationally.

2. Support our businesses. The "Around The Way" app is a must have, it basically outlines black businesses in your city, and it's easy to add black businesses to it as well.

3. Practice group economics, stack up money a few G's with your family, to establish capital(businesses, real estate in developing markets like Detroit).

4. Create our own schools, it doesn't take much. If 5000 people in your neighborhood put up $600, that's $3 million, which should be enough in most areas to buy the land; construct the school, get permits, pay teachers and staff a yearly salary, insurance. If you have any ideas on curriculum, a good person to hit up would be Dr. Umar Johnson, you could tweet him Dr. Umar Johnson (DrUmarJohnson) on Twitter or text him(215-989-9858)

5. Pan-Africanism

6. Come up with a new name for us in America, and have a flag before we address the UN.

If any of you guys agree with anything I posted on, let me know, and I'll discuss it at length.

i agree for the most part except for the UN thing

I actually listend to this Tariq Elite, Recorded on 7/21/13 tariqelite on USTREAM. Comedy
where he talks about this idea, and I have to say I was right, people proposing this idea have no idea about the UN or International Law

these are the things people dont seem to get

*** The UN is not a proactive organization, it cannot grant you any rights. The UN is a rubberstamp organization, it simply rubber stamps whatever has been decided in DC, London, Moscow, Beijing and Paris, those are the places you need to go
*** The notion that the UN or "International law" can offer any protection is completely bogus, tariq is an idiot for believing in any of that

#2,#3 means getting down with capitalism but people like to throw the word capitalism like its a dirty word, when in reality its the best bet for black people

I like #4, ive been saying we need to destroy the public school system and replace it with charters schools and vouchers, this would give black people direct control over education and a great business opportunity for black educators

#5 is good, we should have a cultural and financial network between the americas, caribbean and africa

#6, im down with a a new name as long as its not ****** or nikkas, i wouldnt go to the UN, the UN is a bunch of clowns, its worse then congress and its controlled by DC anyways, im down for going to DC

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Africans don't consider you African tho

I had no idea we all held a vote on the matter.

 

[Calmye]

I had no idea we all held a vote on the matter.

Just saying

 

[Calmye]

Alright, since people want consensus, I'll shoot some things I agree on.

1. Let's go to the UN as a collective to make our plight known internationally.

2. Support our businesses. The "Around The Way" app is a must have, it basically outlines black businesses in your city, and it's easy to add black businesses to it as well.

3. Practice group economics, stack up money a few G's with your family, to establish capital(businesses, real estate in developing markets like Detroit).

4. Create our own schools, it doesn't take much. If 5000 people in your neighborhood put up $600, that's $3 million, which should be enough in most areas to buy the land; construct the school, get permits, pay teachers and staff a yearly salary, insurance. If you have any ideas on curriculum, a good person to hit up would be Dr. Umar Johnson, you could tweet him Dr. Umar Johnson (DrUmarJohnson) on Twitter or text him(215-989-9858)

5. Pan-Africanism

6. Come up with a new name for us in America, and have a flag before we address the UN.

If any of you guys agree with anything I posted on, let me know, and I'll discuss it at length.

Vary interesting. I'm going to DL that app right now. The schools are a great idea and should be one of the highest priority. About number 6 would we still be considered Americans?

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

We are black americans....you are born in America...that is your nation fukk what the UN says about it. Before America there were virtually no people that looked like most African people. Like it or not, we share european/native/African blood. That mix was an impossibility until a certain period of time. Basically what im saying is the "races" (i quote it because the term is flimsy and race doesn't really exist), that is truly found in America and ONLY america are Black people and Native americans.

But that mix happened all over the Americas, some slaves didn't mix much and retained their Africanness for the most part, mixing alone doesn't separate yall from the continent imo especially since Africans also ended up mixing during colonization but that doesn't take away from the fact that they were originally African. Hell, yall got so many different African tribes and nations within yall blood its hard not to say yall are Africans. Just a special brand, are both of our canvases not the same despite the different painting of our features, cultures, etc?

 

[Blackking]

i agree for the most part except for the UN thing

I actually listend to this Tariq Elite, Recorded on 7/21/13 tariqelite on USTREAM. Comedy
where he talks about this idea, and I have to say I was right, people proposing this idea have no idea about the UN or International Law

these are the things people dont seem to get

*** The UN is not a proactive organization, it cannot grant you any rights. The UN is a rubberstamp organization, it simply rubber stamps whatever has been decided in DC, London, Moscow, Beijing and Paris, those are the places you need to go
*** The notion that the UN or "International law" can offer any protection is completely bogus, tariq is an idiot for believing in any of that

#2,#3 means getting down with capitalism but people like to throw the word capitalism like its a dirty word, when in reality its the best bet for black people

I like #4, ive been saying we need to destroy the public school system and replace it with charters schools and vouchers, this would give black people direct control over education and a great business opportunity for black educators

#5 is good, we should have a cultural and financial network between the americas, caribbean and africa

#6, im down with a a new name as long as its not ****** or nikkas, i wouldnt go to the UN, the UN is a bunch of clowns, its worse then congress and its controlled by DC anyways, im down for going to DC

lol, like conscious black people are gonna get together and call themselves ******s United. get real.

You're not understanding y people say go to the UN breh.. it's not because they have power for change, it's not because we want anything from them... MAKE the Case well known and international is all... think of it as a platform.

You do realize that in the 80's and 90's there were black people that came together to form charter schools.. my Main bish went to a Afrocentric HS here. It was good back then... it's basically just like any hood HS in recent times. I'm not saying this isn't our fault... I'm just saying it's hard to maintain that shyt.. We will have to make sure that those school are worth it. It's a Myth that Charter schools are all great solutions and productive educational institutions. Most are just as bad or worse than public schools.