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I looked up street harassment. Y'all were making it seem like they are trying to create new laws. I haven't found any evidence of that. http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/strategies/sshlaw/ This website actually encourages women to invoke laws that already exist
So are you completely thick in the head or nah? FROM THE VERY SAME SITE YOU PUT IN THAT POST:



STREET HARASSMENT AND THE LAW: ANTI-STREET HARASSMENT ORDINANCES

http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/strategies/sshlaw-ordinance/

In addition to, or instead of, strengthening existing laws, what if there was a law or ordinance specific to street harassment?

This is something that legal scholars like Cynthia Grant Bowman, author of “Street Harassment and the Informal Ghettoization of Women,” and Tiffany Heben, author of “A Radical Reshaping of the Law: Interpreting and Remedying Street Harassment” have explored.

The following is Grant Bowman’s proposed public ordinance for street harassment at the state or municipal level. (At Stop Street Harassment, we would suggest making it gender neutral to include men who are targets of harassers and the few women who initiate street harassment.)

It shall be a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of $250, to engage in street harassment. Street harassment occurs when one or more unfamiliar men accost one or more women in a public place, on one or more occasions, and intrude or attempt to intrude upon the woman’s attention in a manner that is unwelcome to the woman, with language or action that is explicitly or implicitly sexual. Such language includes, but is not limited to, references to male or female genitalia or to female body parts or to sexual activities, solicitation of sex, or reference by word or action to the targets of the harassment as the object of sexual desire, or similar words that by their very utterance inflict injury or naturally tend to provoke violent resentment, even if the woman did not herself react with violence. The harasser’s intent, except his intention to say the words or engage in the conduct, is not an element of this offense. This section does not apply to any peaceable activity intended to express political views or provide public information to others. A woman’s dress and prior sexual history are irrelevant to the issue whether the harassment was welcome or unwelcome to her…Any person aggrieved under this statute shall have a private cause of action for damages.

Bowman concedes that the ordinance she proposed is subject to First Amendment challenge. Since the ordinance is both gender-based and content-based in its description of the prohibited behavior and “underbroad” in the conduct it prohibits, the statute could be argued to be invalid. Nonetheless, she says that these possible problems should not deter people from working to pass such an ordinance because the process alone of introducing legislation and campaigning for its passage would likely incite public discussion about street harassment and raise consciousness of it as a problem.

Heben came to similar conclusions as Bowman and generally agrees with Bowman’s proposed ordinance. The biggest hurdle she foresees in passing such a law is the inability to predict if people will actually use it and report harassment. Based on precedent, she found that many women feel that the police and the legal system will continue to fail to acknowledge the gravity of women’s experiences, so women may decide not to waste their time and energy reporting an incident that will not be taken seriously.

Heben fears, rightly so, that discrimination against women in the LGBQT community and women of color might also deter women in those groups in particular from reporting their experiences of harassment. Also, she says, women of color may understandably fear that a law against street harassment will be used to unfairly prosecute men of color and may “regard an ordinance against it as yet another way to punish black men, rather than empower black women.”

Thus, Heben writes, and we agree, all women need to collaborate to develop an ordinance that is sensitive and useful to all populations.

Overall, despite the current shortcomings of Bowman and Heben’s proposed statutes, both scholars support the modification of current laws to deter street harassment and the introduction of a law that criminalizes severe street harassment.

Also, interestingly, in her study of offensive speech in the California Bay Area, sociologist Laura Beth Nielsen found little support for an expanded government role in legislating sexist and racist speech, even among men and women who believed strongly that such speech is offensive and morally wrong. White men tended to cite the First Amendment to support their position, while white women and people of color believed that policing sexist speech would either not work or would backfire. Nielsen, though, believes from her research that changes in law would have an “important symbolic effect.” New laws, she said, would help women make the case that harassment “doesn’t just suck, but is illegal.”

Stop Street Harassment agrees and we would support a specific, well-publicized anti-street harassment law as it could deter harassers, and, perhaps more importantly, it would help quicken our gradual societal shift away from trivializing and dismissing street harassment. It would also offer people more options for dealing with their harassers.

Further, in most cities there are public ordinances against nuisances like littering, not picking up dog waste, and panhandling. Street harassment is a much bigger problem in many people’s, and especially women’s lives, than these problems, as it can negatively impact their quality of life and limit access to public spaces. If these issues have ordinances, surely we can have one that addresses street harassment!

If you are interested in advocating for an anti-street harassment ordinance or law, or want to strengthen an existing law relevant to street harassment and need help, contact us!
 

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Missed this part.
Gonna have to check the video later.
 

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and why yall keep saying white women are heading this

its only like one white chick and a boat load of black women

more importantly....why yall keep acting like black feminists dont know how conniving white hoes are?

black women are the FIRST to tell white hoes about themselves.

yall aint gotta state the obvious.

and lastly, stop repeating every damn thing yall heard some nikka say on the internet say (like a damn parakeet)

most of yall dont even really know what black feminism is....but since some nikka on ya laptop told yall to hate it.....:sas2:

They're pawns. It's a way for them to get a law passed by using the black man as the "face" of street harassment but doing so without looking racist.
 

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Well there will always be people who do wrong no matter what, that doesn't mean a stand can't be made.
What Kind of stand should be made then? IF a person don't give a fukk about you or your stand, and continues to verbally harrass, what should happen then?:skip:

He also keeps bringing up verbal harassment specifically. When with me browsing the hashtag on twitter women are mostly referring to physical harassment. Following/Stalking, grabbing, taking personal belongings. Like the thread the other day when someone said some girl got her headphones broke because some dude didn't want to be ignored so he ripped them off. Things like that should be punishable, and for the most part already is.
:skip:The premise behind #YouOKSis IS VERBAL HARRASEMENT. Do you even know what the topic of discussion here is? Obviously not, cause like you and the people you even mention on twitter, yall are talking in circles about the wrong fukking shyt.



Like you said most of the people on twitter are mostly referring to physical harassment. And, like you said, THERE ARE ARE LAWS FOR THIS... ASSAULT, STALKING, STEALING. So what should happen to VERBAL STREET HARASSERS @ShaneTheRogue? Should a law be passed for that too?:leostare:
 

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What Kind of stand should be made then? IF a person don't give a fukk about you or your stand, and continues to verbally harrass, what should happen then?:skip:

:skip:The premise behind #YouOKSis IS VERBAL HARRASEMENT. Do you even know what the topic of discussion here is? Obviously not, cause like you and the people you even mention on twitter, yall are talking in circles about the wrong fukking shyt.



Like you said most of the people on twitter are mostly referring to physical harassment. And, like you said, THERE ARE ARE LAWS FOR THIS... ASSAULT, STALKING, STEALING. So what should happen to VERBAL STREET HARASSERS @ShaneTheRogue? Should a law be passed for that too?:leostare:
See, this is what we were trying to get you to understand.

Im glad you see the light.

I'm not hating on women AT ALL.

...but ASSAULT is already illegal.

This verbal shyt is a COMPLETE assault on one of the foundational concepts of freedom in this country.
 
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