The Tariq Nasheed Thread

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What? Can you explain what you mean?

Because if you are primarily for your own group of people first, foremost and only then you are going to be a nationalist.

So ideology wise this then descends to conservatism.

The two go hand in hand.

So if if a black person in America (AA) states "I'm now strictly only for my people", they become a black/AA nationalist so their views have to become conservative as a result for example culture and values preservation which goes in with nationalism. This is what we essentially seeing with Tariq.

The only reason why conservatism is looked as a dirty word is because of white people which is understandable. Because if you're Black or non white in a white dominated country, conservatives will always be white nationalists who do not want black or other non white groups to be given anything because they want their own people to have the resources and benefits first and foremost because of culture preservation. This will usually turn into racism or xenophobia.

However If you look at Black African countries they are nationalist and highly conservative. Countries like China, Iran, India, Russia etc too. "Conservative" does not = white.
 

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Post slavery, Black people were overwhelmingly Republican, and at worst 40% Republican from 1880 up until 1964

Republican Party after Slavery

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Democratic Party after Slavery

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Open up a book and learn history and please don't embarrassed yourself
This man had the audacity to say open a book and learn history about this simple shyt:mjlol:. Stuff he would have learned, if he had of done just that:wow:im surprised he didn’t use the MLK was a Republican thing:russ:
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Just ask for their founding material,

The founding material is real life ol nerd ass non nikka…. You asking for “material” as if literature dictated politics in the beginning as opposed to real life circumstances/situations absolutely proves you a non nikka that ain’t no where near as bright as he or she wants to be… Matter of fact, you somewhat dog food and don’t even know it
 

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This man had the audacity to say open a book and learn history about this simple shyt:mjlol:. Stuff he would have learned, if he had of done just that:wow:im surprised he didn’t use the MLK was a Republican thing:russ:
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All those smilies and GIFs because you're too scared to address and reply to my post :wow::wow::wow:
 

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what do we as black Americans do as a whole that could define us as socially conservative :jbhmm: I don’t care what other black people
around the globe do. You’re on a African American culture centric site, not the other way around:beli:
Imma go ahead and flesh this out. You asked, so you better take the time to actually read. Look: I left the church in my early 20s. I learned right then and there how socially conservative we really are.

We value God and spiritualism. Family. Marriage and births within wedlock... I know the TREND has been opposite since we've come of age, but historically speaking the values have been there.

Now, as for me... I'm still socially conservative, "crazy" enough. Cause for me, conservatism isn't some "White" or "Republican" shyt. It's the values any group lays as a foundation for the advancement of their people-- and yes, I'm an African American. For me that means reviving Black love in the mainstream. We watched that vanish as we came of age. I'm not worried about gay people, "bedwenches" or their 'influence' personally, I'm worried about Black men and women's relations with one other. Are we actually dating or marrying appropriately, are we actually valuing one another on our paths or is it just about me. It means honor. There's a lot of people on both sides throwing "nikka" around carelessly and I cringe every time I see it. Especially from a position of supposed 'uplift'. It damn sure means integrity, because before the mods put everyone on notice, there was a whole lot of "tether this, tether that" talk about what other groups are doing but meanwhile, we could have our own smutting, hurting or killing each other and that same so called concern over lineage never enters the convo. So yeah... that's kinda what it is. I hope I made sense.
 

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If Republicans weren't so outwardly racists, they would have a lot of support from all kinds of minorities. Hispanics, Asians, Middle Easterns..etc.
That’s is the reason tho a lot of minorities are republicans now, because of the anti-blackness . It’s a crazy mix of self-hate,ignorance and cognitive dissonance.
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social conservatism relates to a "commitment" to traditional values concerned with family structures, sexual relations, patriotism, gun ownership and military invasions,

Im not too sure what they mean by military invasion

but the family structure, sexual relations, patriotism (nationalism) is what I meant.

I'm sure you can insert education & capitalism in the mix too.

I think my definition still applies when you observe the behavior and ideologies of black people globally

I think you both are pretty much correct about the definition. The military invasion thing does tie into nationalism as conservatism tends to blend with it’s tradition of siding with the state authority’s point of view.

A lot of this is complicated by a never ending venn-diagram of religious and social sub-cultures.

If we look at the conservatism of Tanzania we’d find that they seem to shun drug use and homosexuality in public. Many are Christian, but their culture tends to settle differences with street boxing or payment. They believe in work but not over-working, and they still cling to some past socialist ideas. They respect authority figures to a point (they killed someone in political office while I was there), but generally choose to look the other way on police bribery and issues neighboring countries no matter how intersted they are in seeing the outcome.

Afghans are further divided by the multiple overarching religions in different regions. They’re also divided by different tribal customs that keep them at odds. Political subversion and bribery is something that is encouraged social in certain tribes, total submission to perceived power is acceptable as well. Some rural Pashtun parts of the culture look at sexual conservatism as messing with boys and men for recreation while women are for procreation. The more urban groups shun all of that and would still be extremely conservative by our standard, yet considered “liberal” by their own. The western and northern parts of the country are more like the urban people of the east. General and religious Conservatism speaks more to traditional dress and ceremony there.

Conservatism can be very difficult to define when culture/religious/and defined freedoms come into the mix.

It’s even more difficult for Americans, Canadians, and Caribbeans that lost original values to slave trade and had to rebuild others traditions where they were at. Some of our current culture seems purely based in counterculture trying to separate from where we’ve landed.

We have to be truthful to ourselves and each other about what we may individually want and how it fits in what we may collectively want if there is to be a true collective in the future.
 

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Post slavery, Black people were overwhelmingly Republican, and at worst 40% Republican from 1880 up until 1964

Republican Party after Slavery

47a.jpg



Democratic Party after Slavery

310648714-democrats-democrats-kkk-racist-political-poster.jpg


democrats-a-history-of-racism-1.jpg






Open up a book and learn history and please don't embarrassed yourself

No shyt nikka

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You act like you're the only one that has heard about the southern strategy.

It's almost as if the parties switched after the civil Rights movement :ohhh:


And what's the deal with that little quip at the end? It wasn't too long ago that you were all up in my PMs asking me about getting into electrical and computer engineering.
 
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